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hmmm, illusion continues to build ghosts against mass colossi. I feel like he is on auto pilot mode.
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On July 27 2013 04:37 krutopatkin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 04:36 stuchiu wrote:On July 27 2013 04:33 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:30 fastr wrote:
I think Stephano, Naniwa, Scarlett, TLO and Snute is the undisputed top5 (in no particular order. After these 5, I'd add Lucifron, Mana, Dimaga. Then i'm really not sure, Demuslim, Happy, Vortix, dayshi comes into mind but it's unclear.
edit: and if we count chinese players, Jim is definitely up there How is Scarlett "undisputed" in front of Luci? They both have about the same results. (well Luci has better actually, including him beating Scarlett 3:0 at this ipl dice thingy) That was 4 months ago. At some point you have to let go of past results. As opposed to Scarlett's current results
She just advanced over hero in WCS AM
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On July 27 2013 04:45 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 04:38 Darkhoarse wrote:On July 27 2013 04:33 Greendotz wrote:On July 27 2013 04:30 stuchiu wrote:On July 27 2013 04:29 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:29 stuchiu wrote:On July 27 2013 04:23 tree.hugger wrote:On July 27 2013 04:20 DamageControL wrote:On July 27 2013 04:16 fastr wrote:
SeleCT dit not play badly, TLO just played an amazing series. I also think the 3-0 is due to the fact that SeleCT did not look prepared against TLO's style, for instance in game 3 I think he should've switch to tank way earlier, and play super defensive. TLO's drop defense was also top notch. TLO is definitely in the top10 foreigner list, maybe even top 5. Give 1 or 2 more month to SeleCT and he might join him, he showed glimpses of really great play these last few weeks. Who do people feel are top10 right now? (Not in order) TLO, Snute, Stephano, NaNiwa, SaSe, LucifroN, and beyond that group it gets really muddy. Do Chinese players count as foreigners? Well, are Chinese players Korean? Nope, but no one ever mentions Jim or Sen when talking about top foreigners, so I wasn't sure. To be fair Sen would really struggle to make anyone's top ten anymore. Jim, yeah that's a fair shout, but it's easy to forget about the Chinese. Also aside from the rare 1 hour stream, the (admitadly easy) WCS group he obliterated and buzzwords like "#1 KrGM" people still know very little about him. I've doubted Sen before but he always manages to pull out some great play at international tournaments he appears in. I agree that he hasn't played particularly well in WCS. Chinese players are hard to rate for me. MacSed has looked like nothing special, but Jim seems to play extremely well. I'd need to see Jim play more before I put him in the top 10 foreigners. I would put Jim in top 10 foreigners
Are you reading this writing staff? The people demand a foreigner power rank :D
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Does anyone else is having lag? I'm having a lot of it even in 240p :/
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On July 27 2013 04:47 DamageControL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 04:37 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:36 stuchiu wrote:On July 27 2013 04:33 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:30 fastr wrote:
I think Stephano, Naniwa, Scarlett, TLO and Snute is the undisputed top5 (in no particular order. After these 5, I'd add Lucifron, Mana, Dimaga. Then i'm really not sure, Demuslim, Happy, Vortix, dayshi comes into mind but it's unclear.
edit: and if we count chinese players, Jim is definitely up there How is Scarlett "undisputed" in front of Luci? They both have about the same results. (well Luci has better actually, including him beating Scarlett 3:0 at this ipl dice thingy) That was 4 months ago. At some point you have to let go of past results. As opposed to Scarlett's current results She just advanced over hero in WCS AM
Cross server lag may have been a factor.
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On July 27 2013 04:47 mataxp wrote:
Does anyone else is having lag? I'm having a lot of it even in 240p :/
I can only watch at 240, but I'm at my parents for the weekend, I just figured it was down to the rural broadband.
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I'm not having any lag I'm located in Canada.
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well according to aligulac top 10 foreigners in terms if the aligulac result points:
LucifroN 1835 (+1: RSL, ATC, Dreamhack, SC2L, EPS Spain )
tw Sen 1731 (+0: No change)
ru Happy 1709 (+20: WCS EU, ZOTAC )
es VortiX 1702 (+41: RSL, EPS Spain, WCS EU, Dreamhack, ZOTAC )
se NaNiwa 1701 (+0: No change)
no Snute 1665 (-28 ATC, WCS AM, SC2L)
ca Scarlett 1638 (+6: ATC, SC2L, WCS AM, GSTL, RSL)
cn Jim 1629 (+7: WCS AM, RSL)
de TLO 1616 (+19: Kaspersky, ATC, Showmatch, SC2L)
pl Nerchio 1584 (+34: go4sc2, ATC, SC2L)
some foreigners who dont have much aligulac points probably belong in top 10 best, (ahem like STEPHANO!!)
but I would put Jim above Happy/Snute/ perhaps Vortix
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On July 27 2013 04:49 mikumegurine wrote:
well according to aligulac top 10 foreigners in terms if the aligulac result points:
LucifroN 1835 (+1: RSL, ATC, Dreamhack, SC2L, EPS Spain )
tw Sen 1731 (+0: No change)
ru Happy 1709 (+20: WCS EU, ZOTAC )
es VortiX 1702 (+41: RSL, EPS Spain, WCS EU, Dreamhack, ZOTAC )
se NaNiwa 1701 (+0: No change)
no Snute 1665 (-28 ATC, WCS AM, SC2L)
ca Scarlett 1638 (+6: ATC, SC2L, WCS AM, GSTL, RSL)
cn Jim 1629 (+7: WCS AM, RSL)
de TLO 1616 (+19: Kaspersky, ATC, Showmatch, SC2L)
pl Nerchio 1584 (+34: go4sc2, ATC, SC2L)
some foreigners who dont have much aligulac points probably belong in top 10 best,
but I would put Jim above Happy/Snute/ perhaps Vortix
My only problem with aligulac is that it seems to either drastically change based on one result, or have players sit near the top with limited results. Nerchio is someone who I think could be removed if this were a list of current top 10 foreigners.
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On July 27 2013 04:47 Greendotz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 04:45 mikumegurine wrote:On July 27 2013 04:38 Darkhoarse wrote:On July 27 2013 04:33 Greendotz wrote:On July 27 2013 04:30 stuchiu wrote:On July 27 2013 04:29 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:29 stuchiu wrote:On July 27 2013 04:23 tree.hugger wrote:On July 27 2013 04:20 DamageControL wrote:On July 27 2013 04:16 fastr wrote:
SeleCT dit not play badly, TLO just played an amazing series. I also think the 3-0 is due to the fact that SeleCT did not look prepared against TLO's style, for instance in game 3 I think he should've switch to tank way earlier, and play super defensive. TLO's drop defense was also top notch. TLO is definitely in the top10 foreigner list, maybe even top 5. Give 1 or 2 more month to SeleCT and he might join him, he showed glimpses of really great play these last few weeks. Who do people feel are top10 right now? (Not in order) TLO, Snute, Stephano, NaNiwa, SaSe, LucifroN, and beyond that group it gets really muddy. Do Chinese players count as foreigners? Well, are Chinese players Korean? Nope, but no one ever mentions Jim or Sen when talking about top foreigners, so I wasn't sure. To be fair Sen would really struggle to make anyone's top ten anymore. Jim, yeah that's a fair shout, but it's easy to forget about the Chinese. Also aside from the rare 1 hour stream, the (admitadly easy) WCS group he obliterated and buzzwords like "#1 KrGM" people still know very little about him. I've doubted Sen before but he always manages to pull out some great play at international tournaments he appears in. I agree that he hasn't played particularly well in WCS. Chinese players are hard to rate for me. MacSed has looked like nothing special, but Jim seems to play extremely well. I'd need to see Jim play more before I put him in the top 10 foreigners. I would put Jim in top 10 foreigners Are you reading this writing staff? The people demand a foreigner power rank :D
1. Elfi
2. Elfi
3. Elfi
4. Elfi
5. Elfi
6. Elfi
7. Elfi
8. Elfi
9. Elfi
10. Elfi
Cause he is a God.
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On July 27 2013 04:48 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 04:47 DamageControL wrote:On July 27 2013 04:37 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:36 stuchiu wrote:On July 27 2013 04:33 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:30 fastr wrote:
I think Stephano, Naniwa, Scarlett, TLO and Snute is the undisputed top5 (in no particular order. After these 5, I'd add Lucifron, Mana, Dimaga. Then i'm really not sure, Demuslim, Happy, Vortix, dayshi comes into mind but it's unclear.
edit: and if we count chinese players, Jim is definitely up there How is Scarlett "undisputed" in front of Luci? They both have about the same results. (well Luci has better actually, including him beating Scarlett 3:0 at this ipl dice thingy) That was 4 months ago. At some point you have to let go of past results. As opposed to Scarlett's current results She just advanced over hero in WCS AM Cross server lag may have been a factor.
they were both playing with the same lag though
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On July 27 2013 04:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 04:48 Darkhoarse wrote:On July 27 2013 04:47 DamageControL wrote:On July 27 2013 04:37 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:36 stuchiu wrote:On July 27 2013 04:33 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:30 fastr wrote:
I think Stephano, Naniwa, Scarlett, TLO and Snute is the undisputed top5 (in no particular order. After these 5, I'd add Lucifron, Mana, Dimaga. Then i'm really not sure, Demuslim, Happy, Vortix, dayshi comes into mind but it's unclear.
edit: and if we count chinese players, Jim is definitely up there How is Scarlett "undisputed" in front of Luci? They both have about the same results. (well Luci has better actually, including him beating Scarlett 3:0 at this ipl dice thingy) That was 4 months ago. At some point you have to let go of past results. As opposed to Scarlett's current results She just advanced over hero in WCS AM Cross server lag may have been a factor. they were both playing with the same lag though
Oh right Scarlett was in Korea. Well I would still say HerO is better than her but that's a fairly impressive result. No argument from me that she's in any top 10 foreigner list.
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Seriously, Illusion needs to snipe observers. Dunno why he isn't.
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On July 27 2013 04:53 ptbl wrote:
Seriously, Illusion needs to snipe observers. Dunno why he isn't.
The textures and sandy ground make it kind of hard to see them on this map.
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On July 27 2013 04:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 04:48 Darkhoarse wrote:On July 27 2013 04:47 DamageControL wrote:On July 27 2013 04:37 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:36 stuchiu wrote:On July 27 2013 04:33 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:30 fastr wrote:
I think Stephano, Naniwa, Scarlett, TLO and Snute is the undisputed top5 (in no particular order. After these 5, I'd add Lucifron, Mana, Dimaga. Then i'm really not sure, Demuslim, Happy, Vortix, dayshi comes into mind but it's unclear.
edit: and if we count chinese players, Jim is definitely up there How is Scarlett "undisputed" in front of Luci? They both have about the same results. (well Luci has better actually, including him beating Scarlett 3:0 at this ipl dice thingy) That was 4 months ago. At some point you have to let go of past results. As opposed to Scarlett's current results She just advanced over hero in WCS AM Cross server lag may have been a factor. they were both playing with the same lag though
On another note I believe you've corrected probably 20 of my errant statements in LR threads over the past two days.
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huk so tryhard and then fails badly LOL
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Huk sure likes his double robo collosus. He used it in his WCS NA group as well.
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On July 27 2013 04:47 Greendotz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 04:45 mikumegurine wrote:On July 27 2013 04:38 Darkhoarse wrote:On July 27 2013 04:33 Greendotz wrote:On July 27 2013 04:30 stuchiu wrote:On July 27 2013 04:29 krutopatkin wrote:On July 27 2013 04:29 stuchiu wrote:On July 27 2013 04:23 tree.hugger wrote:On July 27 2013 04:20 DamageControL wrote:On July 27 2013 04:16 fastr wrote:
SeleCT dit not play badly, TLO just played an amazing series. I also think the 3-0 is due to the fact that SeleCT did not look prepared against TLO's style, for instance in game 3 I think he should've switch to tank way earlier, and play super defensive. TLO's drop defense was also top notch. TLO is definitely in the top10 foreigner list, maybe even top 5. Give 1 or 2 more month to SeleCT and he might join him, he showed glimpses of really great play these last few weeks. Who do people feel are top10 right now? (Not in order) TLO, Snute, Stephano, NaNiwa, SaSe, LucifroN, and beyond that group it gets really muddy. Do Chinese players count as foreigners? Well, are Chinese players Korean? Nope, but no one ever mentions Jim or Sen when talking about top foreigners, so I wasn't sure. To be fair Sen would really struggle to make anyone's top ten anymore. Jim, yeah that's a fair shout, but it's easy to forget about the Chinese. Also aside from the rare 1 hour stream, the (admitadly easy) WCS group he obliterated and buzzwords like "#1 KrGM" people still know very little about him. I've doubted Sen before but he always manages to pull out some great play at international tournaments he appears in. I agree that he hasn't played particularly well in WCS. Chinese players are hard to rate for me. MacSed has looked like nothing special, but Jim seems to play extremely well. I'd need to see Jim play more before I put him in the top 10 foreigners. I would put Jim in top 10 foreigners Are you reading this writing staff? The people demand a foreigner power rank :D
Snute played in proleague? Instant #1!
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had to do it.
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