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[OSL] RO16 Day 5 WCS Korea Season 2 2013 - Page 3

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TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
July 16 2013 09:03 GMT
#41
I dont get how did meaningless matches happen in this tournament. It feels like bad match management.
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 16 2013 09:04 GMT
#42
On July 16 2013 18:00 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 17:42 lichter wrote:
On July 16 2013 17:40 Xoronius wrote:
On July 16 2013 16:59 Yello wrote:
On July 16 2013 16:44 opterown wrote:
cheering for supernova! otherwise not too much invested in these matches


still hoping for a 3-way tie between hyvaa, First and Rain just for the sake of it. So hyvaa needs to win today and then Rain needs to win the next match.

The other two matches are not important anymore so I just hope to see entertaining games


I´ve read this many times now, may I ask why? Even if First loses 0-2 and Rain wins 2-0, First would be 4-2 and Rain 4-3, so that First would have a better mapscore than Rain. Has´nt he already advanced through this?


The tie breakers are not determined by mapscores. Mapscores are completely irrelevant. If they tie, they play Bo1 tie breaker matches.


Ok, thanks. I think that is complete bullshit and kinda ignores the point of RR but at least I know, what is going on now.


I agree that it's inefficient, but they aren't doing this because it makes sense

The format is as it is because they want an assured number of matches that can be scheduled in advance, and the possibility of the most number of meaningful matches. Allowing a more 'logical' tiebreaker such as mapscores decreases the number of possible games. This would mess up OGN's TV schedule. Other sports play meaningless games too, mostly because of this reason.
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Latto
Profile Joined April 2011
235 Posts
July 16 2013 09:04 GMT
#43
so tired of hearing this piggback broken record from tasteless every time ;\
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 16 2013 09:04 GMT
#44
On July 16 2013 18:03 TheFlexN wrote:
I dont get how did meaningless matches happen in this tournament. It feels like bad match management.

all matches are played it's round robin.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 16 2013 09:04 GMT
#45
2:0
2:0
2:0
2:0

my predictions for the night, the left side is just clearly my favorite :D
Gudge
Profile Joined June 2013
542 Posts
July 16 2013 09:05 GMT
#46
great match-ups! cant wait!
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FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
July 16 2013 09:05 GMT
#47
On July 16 2013 18:04 bo1b wrote:
2:0
2:0
2:0
2:0

my predictions for the night, the left side is just clearly my favorite :D


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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 09:08:01
July 16 2013 09:06 GMT
#48
On July 16 2013 18:04 bo1b wrote:
2:0
2:0
2:0
2:0

my predictions for the night, the left side is just clearly my favorite :D


Trap lost to Maru and is clearly the favorite against Supernova, who beat Squirtle and PartinG? Idk about this.
Edit: Talking about the left side in LR Thread, maybe you meant smth. else, in this case nvm.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
July 16 2013 09:07 GMT
#49
Is the Group A match important in any way at all (besides it being Parting Soulkey )?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 16 2013 09:08 GMT
#50
On July 16 2013 18:07 artrea wrote:
Is the Group A match important in any way at all (besides it being Parting Soulkey )?

soO vs Symbol is the important match which decides who goes through in 2nd.
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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
July 16 2013 09:08 GMT
#51
in b4 two straight 10 pool loses by soulkey
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 16 2013 09:08 GMT
#52
Please Soulkey, crush PartinG hard, I wanna see his upset face again.
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 16 2013 09:09 GMT
#53
Partings ego is crushed. Bonus content videos so good ^^
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WIllBIll
Profile Joined June 2011
590 Posts
July 16 2013 09:09 GMT
#54
Let's see if we can turn that smile around.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 16 2013 09:10 GMT
#55
On July 16 2013 18:06 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:04 bo1b wrote:
2:0
2:0
2:0
2:0

my predictions for the night, the left side is just clearly my favorite :D


Trap lost to Maru and is clearly the favorite against Supernova, who beat Squirtle and PartinG? Idk about this.
Edit: Talking about the left side in LR Thread, maybe you meant smth. else, in this case nvm.

Nope you're right, I got the wrong side :p In any event, I just think Suno is going to win vs Trap :p
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 16 2013 09:11 GMT
#56
Its ok tastosis, imo wolf and khaldor have surpassed you two in ability.
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
July 16 2013 09:11 GMT
#57
On July 16 2013 18:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:03 TheFlexN wrote:
I dont get how did meaningless matches happen in this tournament. It feels like bad match management.

all matches are played it's round robin.

But there is no real meaning for the game, now we watch soulkey vs parting and no matter how it ends, parting is going down and soulkey advances. Why is it being casted if it doesnt have a real result? What am I missing?
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
July 16 2013 09:12 GMT
#58
On July 16 2013 18:11 TheFlexN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:03 TheFlexN wrote:
I dont get how did meaningless matches happen in this tournament. It feels like bad match management.

all matches are played it's round robin.

But there is no real meaning for the game, now we watch soulkey vs parting and no matter how it ends, parting is going down and soulkey advances. Why is it being casted if it doesnt have a real result? What am I missing?


because they want to make sure they push back trap vs. supernova just long enough for me to not watch it
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 16 2013 09:12 GMT
#59
On July 16 2013 18:11 TheFlexN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:03 TheFlexN wrote:
I dont get how did meaningless matches happen in this tournament. It feels like bad match management.

all matches are played it's round robin.

But there is no real meaning for the game, now we watch soulkey vs parting and no matter how it ends, parting is going down and soulkey advances. Why is it being casted if it doesnt have a real result? What am I missing?

it kind of matters. not hugely, but they kinda do.

if you're first place in your group, you go up against someone who got second in their group and vice versa. if you're third, you get more WCS points than if you're fourth.
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 16 2013 09:13 GMT
#60
On July 16 2013 18:04 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:00 Xoronius wrote:
On July 16 2013 17:42 lichter wrote:
On July 16 2013 17:40 Xoronius wrote:
On July 16 2013 16:59 Yello wrote:
On July 16 2013 16:44 opterown wrote:
cheering for supernova! otherwise not too much invested in these matches


still hoping for a 3-way tie between hyvaa, First and Rain just for the sake of it. So hyvaa needs to win today and then Rain needs to win the next match.

The other two matches are not important anymore so I just hope to see entertaining games


I´ve read this many times now, may I ask why? Even if First loses 0-2 and Rain wins 2-0, First would be 4-2 and Rain 4-3, so that First would have a better mapscore than Rain. Has´nt he already advanced through this?


The tie breakers are not determined by mapscores. Mapscores are completely irrelevant. If they tie, they play Bo1 tie breaker matches.


Ok, thanks. I think that is complete bullshit and kinda ignores the point of RR but at least I know, what is going on now.


I agree that it's inefficient, but they aren't doing this because it makes sense

The format is as it is because they want an assured number of matches that can be scheduled in advance, and the possibility of the most number of meaningful matches. Allowing a more 'logical' tiebreaker such as mapscores decreases the number of possible games. This would mess up OGN's TV schedule. Other sports play meaningless games too, mostly because of this reason.


This kinda makes sence, still the reasonability of the tournament should be more important than OGN´s schedule and they can´t really plan tie breakers that much in advance either. But still, more games=more money is an argument, I can´t really deny.
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