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Pros
Profile Joined February 2011
219 Posts
July 10 2013 16:44 GMT
#281
I feel like Kaelaris is just agreeing with everything Apollo is saying and trying to add on some tidbits that may or may not be true...
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
July 10 2013 16:44 GMT
#282
On July 11 2013 01:42 HugzForL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:40 garbanzo wrote:
So has Lucifron not been watching the other games with Protoss players in Korea? I don't understand why you wouldn't just play super safe...


Man, he is playing pretty safe.

I guess I mostly meant in the second game. Third game was just a well-executed and cloaked all-in from NaNiwa.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 16:46:52
July 10 2013 16:44 GMT
#283
uzer's ESL page http://www.esl.eu/pl/pro-series/season6/sc2/1on1/faza_finalowa/player/1845782/
another photo [image loading] Man that won 2nd place in ESL pro series Poland, man on the left
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 10 2013 16:44 GMT
#284
On July 11 2013 01:43 broodmann wrote:
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On July 11 2013 01:42 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Funny to see the massive bias after people shit on tails/duckdeok in LR threads for all inning every game :D


Didn't Tails lose all his games by doing laughable attempts at all-ins?

I think he 8 gated or something. As in 8 supply.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 16:45:41
July 10 2013 16:44 GMT
#285
On July 11 2013 01:43 Crownlol wrote:
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On July 11 2013 01:40 TheDwf wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:38 HerrHorst wrote:
There will be a time when Protoss don't all-in every time.

Alas no, since it would mean Warpgate is removed from the game. /:



Give us better T1 units that turn into T3 units with upgrades, and remove our reliance on Colossus. You can have Warpgate and the All-Ins.


Protoss is more than capable of playing macro games, but it is also the race with best cheese/all ins. Sure it was smart of Naniwa to play short games with lag but it still were awful games that looked like ladder scrubs fighting each other..
I can obs my own games for that shit :D
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 10 2013 16:44 GMT
#286
Every time Luci beat Nani on stream Naniwa would BM the shit out of him while yelling "HE ALWAYS TAKES RISKS!!!" and then he would all in him 10 games in a row and win each and every one of them
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 10 2013 16:45 GMT
#287
On July 11 2013 01:43 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:40 TheDwf wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:38 HerrHorst wrote:
There will be a time when Protoss don't all-in every time.

Alas no, since it would mean Warpgate is removed from the game. /:



Give us better T1 units that turn into T3 units with upgrades, and remove our reliance on Colossus. You can have Warpgate and the All-Ins.

Deal. This should be our main goal for LotV. But something tells me it just won't happen.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
July 10 2013 16:45 GMT
#288
On July 11 2013 01:42 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying Lucifron is the best foreigner, but his results don't show it. I think he is overhyped.


Lucifron is really good when he can do his game, all-in him or when hes under pressure, he just collapses. Just look at recent tournaments..
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
July 10 2013 16:45 GMT
#289
On July 11 2013 01:43 politik wrote:
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On July 11 2013 01:42 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Funny to see the massive bias after people shit on tails/duckdeok in LR threads for all inning every game :D


Apparently people want the foreign scene to be represented by the biggest douche in esports.



*people who can win games
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
July 10 2013 16:45 GMT
#290
gogo bly.
dreaming of a sunny day
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
July 10 2013 16:45 GMT
#291
Yea, gogo Naniwa I've never seen him go 3 games in a row like that with all-ins/heavy early aggression, but it was definitely entertaining! As a Protoss player, I didn't know early aggression could be that strong. Especially against Terran :O
Plat Support Main #believe
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 10 2013 16:45 GMT
#292
On July 11 2013 01:44 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:43 broodmann wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Funny to see the massive bias after people shit on tails/duckdeok in LR threads for all inning every game :D


Didn't Tails lose all his games by doing laughable attempts at all-ins?

I think he 8 gated or something. As in 8 supply.

To be fair those kind of builds netted him an ungodly amount of team league wins. MVP protosses are bizarre.
Glorious SEA doto
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
July 10 2013 16:45 GMT
#293
On July 11 2013 01:44 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:42 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying Lucifron is the best foreigner, but his results don't show it. I think he is overhyped.


Well which one is better in your opinion?

The ones getting better results maybe? like TLO, Snute and naniwa?
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
July 10 2013 16:45 GMT
#294
On July 11 2013 01:42 1ns4n3 wrote:
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On July 11 2013 01:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Nani! Great games, great decision making!


Are you f****ing serious ?

Have you even watched theses games ?
He deserved NONE of his wins


Yeah, I guess it was his grandma playing... She deserves all that wins.
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
July 10 2013 16:46 GMT
#295
would be nice if Terran got some kind of mother-ship core like unit, it's way to hard to defend all these silly all-ins
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
July 10 2013 16:46 GMT
#296
On July 11 2013 01:43 ntssauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:42 1ns4n3 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Nani! Great games, great decision making!


Are you f****ing serious ?

Have you even watched theses games ?
He deserved NONE of his wins

/signed


Its ok man, when a Korean does it it's smart, aggressive play that's punishing greed.

When NaNi does it, it's apparently Protoss imba and completely undeserved.

Luckily, Toss fans are used to this.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 10 2013 16:46 GMT
#297
On July 11 2013 01:45 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:44 AgentW wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:43 broodmann wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Funny to see the massive bias after people shit on tails/duckdeok in LR threads for all inning every game :D


Didn't Tails lose all his games by doing laughable attempts at all-ins?

I think he 8 gated or something. As in 8 supply.

To be fair those kind of builds netted him an ungodly amount of team league wins. MVP protosses are bizarre.

He's probably the biggest sniper I can think of in PL/GSTL off the top of my head (not counting Sniper!). Very cool, often map specific cheeses. I think they're fun, but most don't.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
July 10 2013 16:46 GMT
#298
On July 11 2013 01:45 Nomzter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:44 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying Lucifron is the best foreigner, but his results don't show it. I think he is overhyped.


Well which one is better in your opinion?

The ones getting better results maybe? like TLO, Snute and naniwa?


I dont like Naniwa at all, but just look at his results. Barely lost to Leenock in finals, lost to Polt in finals. Lucifron didnt even make it to the finals lol
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
July 10 2013 16:46 GMT
#299
On July 11 2013 01:45 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:43 Crownlol wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 TheDwf wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:38 HerrHorst wrote:
There will be a time when Protoss don't all-in every time.

Alas no, since it would mean Warpgate is removed from the game. /:



Give us better T1 units that turn into T3 units with upgrades, and remove our reliance on Colossus. You can have Warpgate and the All-Ins.

Deal. This should be our main goal for LotV. But something tells me it just won't happen.


Doesn't feel protossy enough.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Neneu
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway492 Posts
July 10 2013 16:47 GMT
#300
On July 11 2013 01:44 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:42 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying Lucifron is the best foreigner, but his results don't show it. I think he is overhyped.


Well which one is better in your opinion?


Naniwa
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