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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 10 2013 16:47 GMT
#301
On July 11 2013 01:45 Nomzter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:44 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying Lucifron is the best foreigner, but his results don't show it. I think he is overhyped.


Well which one is better in your opinion?

The ones getting better results maybe? like TLO, Snute and naniwa?


I never heard anyone say he is the best foreigner but I heard he is the best terran..
Most people always said Stephano and now Naniwa...
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 10 2013 16:47 GMT
#302
On July 11 2013 01:45 Jacmert wrote:
Yea, gogo Naniwa I've never seen him go 3 games in a row like that with all-ins/heavy early aggression, but it was definitely entertaining! As a Protoss player, I didn't know early aggression could be that strong. Especially against Terran :O

Are you living under a rock? Protoss has a zillion gimmicky allins vs Terran that are insanely hard to scout/ prepare for.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
July 10 2013 16:47 GMT
#303
On July 11 2013 01:44 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:42 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying Lucifron is the best foreigner, but his results don't show it. I think he is overhyped.


Well which one is better in your opinion?


Snute, Naniwa, Stephano and TLO are up there I would say.
Don't mind me
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
July 10 2013 16:48 GMT
#304
On July 11 2013 01:47 Neneu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:44 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying Lucifron is the best foreigner, but his results don't show it. I think he is overhyped.


Well which one is better in your opinion?


Naniwa

I don't think that's even debatable at this point.
1ns4n3
Profile Joined September 2011
117 Posts
July 10 2013 16:48 GMT
#305
On July 11 2013 01:41 Nomzter wrote:
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On July 11 2013 01:40 1ns4n3 wrote:
How did this guy win ? undeserved, you can't more

haha dude, Naniwa beat lucifron cross-server, how is it not a deserved win? :D


Low-APM race can win with that amout of lag i'm afraid.
I say it's undeserved because he tried 3 cheese (with the most effective attack race - warp gate ftw) to beat lucifron.
How is that deserving ? It's like zerg playing broodlord-infestor in WoL



User was warned for this post
ntssauce
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany750 Posts
July 10 2013 16:48 GMT
#306
On July 11 2013 01:46 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:43 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 1ns4n3 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Nani! Great games, great decision making!


Are you f****ing serious ?

Have you even watched theses games ?
He deserved NONE of his wins

/signed


Its ok man, when a Korean does it it's smart, aggressive play that's punishing greed.

When NaNi does it, it's apparently Protoss imba and completely undeserved.

Luckily, Toss fans are used to this.


we are not flaming nani, we are flaming protoss all ins, you should've realized it and now stop protecting him like you are his best friend for ever
MMA and Alive you are the best! | Goodbye ST_Sound ~
Brutalin
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden74 Posts
July 10 2013 16:48 GMT
#307
So much crying about allins, they are competitors, and play too win, allways. This is their job and only income, ofc they do whats necessary to win.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44369 Posts
July 10 2013 16:48 GMT
#308
On July 11 2013 01:47 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:45 Nomzter wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:44 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying Lucifron is the best foreigner, but his results don't show it. I think he is overhyped.


Well which one is better in your opinion?

The ones getting better results maybe? like TLO, Snute and naniwa?


I never heard anyone say he is the best foreigner but I heard he is the best terran..
Most people always said Stephano and now Naniwa...


Agreed. I've heard people say that Lucifron (or Thorzain or Happy, etc.) is the best Terran foreigner, but that's about it.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 10 2013 16:48 GMT
#309
On July 11 2013 01:47 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:44 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 ptbl wrote:
People keep saying Lucifron is the best foreigner, but his results don't show it. I think he is overhyped.


Well which one is better in your opinion?


Snute, Naniwa, Stephano and TLO are up there I would say.

Add Luci in there and that's a pretty strong top 5. Haven't seen a ton from Scarlett recently, but she'd certainly be in the mix.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 16:49:37
July 10 2013 16:48 GMT
#310
On July 11 2013 01:43 Fusilero wrote:
Fuzer's Polish bastard cousin will step up to the plate.


hahah I was thinking literally the same thing. Question is who is Mario and who is Wario out of the two. ^^
Amove for Aiur
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 10 2013 16:49 GMT
#311
Guys, look, StarCraft
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12204 Posts
July 10 2013 16:49 GMT
#312
On July 11 2013 01:42 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Funny to see the massive bias after people shit on tails/duckdeok in LR threads for all inning every game :D


I don't know, Naniwa is taking a fair amount of shit too as far as I'm reading.

But yeah my surprise is that Nani was able to win, not that TL is full of Downfalls
No will to live, no wish to die
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
July 10 2013 16:49 GMT
#313
On July 11 2013 01:48 1ns4n3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:41 Nomzter wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 1ns4n3 wrote:
How did this guy win ? undeserved, you can't more

haha dude, Naniwa beat lucifron cross-server, how is it not a deserved win? :D


Low-APM race can win with that amout of lag i'm afraid.
I say it's undeserved because he tried 3 cheese (with the most effective attack race - warp gate ftw) to beat lucifron.
How is that deserving ? It's like zerg playing broodlord-infestor in WoL



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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
July 10 2013 16:49 GMT
#314
On July 11 2013 01:48 ntssauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:46 Crownlol wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:43 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 1ns4n3 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Nani! Great games, great decision making!


Are you f****ing serious ?

Have you even watched theses games ?
He deserved NONE of his wins

/signed


Its ok man, when a Korean does it it's smart, aggressive play that's punishing greed.

When NaNi does it, it's apparently Protoss imba and completely undeserved.

Luckily, Toss fans are used to this.


we are not flaming nani, we are flaming protoss all ins, you should've realized it and now stop protecting him like you are his best friend for ever


But 10pool and 11/11rax don't catch any flak at all. Hmmm, that's odd.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
July 10 2013 16:49 GMT
#315
On July 11 2013 01:46 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:43 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 1ns4n3 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Nani! Great games, great decision making!


Are you f****ing serious ?

Have you even watched theses games ?
He deserved NONE of his wins

/signed


Its ok man, when a Korean does it it's smart, aggressive play that's punishing greed.

When NaNi does it, it's apparently Protoss imba and completely undeserved.

Luckily, Toss fans are used to this.

When *rain* does it it's smart calculating play that's punishing greed

When a korean does it it's cheesy and awful

When NaNi does it protoss is imba

-_-
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44369 Posts
July 10 2013 16:49 GMT
#316
On July 11 2013 01:48 ntssauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:46 Crownlol wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:43 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 1ns4n3 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Nani! Great games, great decision making!


Are you f****ing serious ?

Have you even watched theses games ?
He deserved NONE of his wins

/signed


Its ok man, when a Korean does it it's smart, aggressive play that's punishing greed.

When NaNi does it, it's apparently Protoss imba and completely undeserved.

Luckily, Toss fans are used to this.


we are not flaming nani, we are flaming protoss all ins, you should've realized it and now stop protecting him like you are his best friend for ever


Sorry I missed the first series. Why did Naniwa not deserve his two wins against Lucifron?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 16:51:29
July 10 2013 16:50 GMT
#317
On July 11 2013 01:42 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:40 ntssauce wrote:
i think we can all agree that lucifron was better and the 2nd game had nothing to do with " perfect micro " ( micro spamming few FFs LOL nice what toss consider micro nowadays ) , but how strong the push itself was.


I think we can all agree that Naniwa is a much better player than Luci ever can hope to be considering he beat him with insane lag from Korea. Luci was overrated already in Warcraft 3 and that story continues in SC 2.

Please, Naniwa would be shit without protoss. He's really good at preparing builds, which is great for a protoss player. In terms of actual skill theres no contest

Also I'm not qq about Naniwa, even though I can't stand him. Protoss is just fucking stupid no matter what.

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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 10 2013 16:50 GMT
#318
On July 11 2013 01:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:48 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:46 Crownlol wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:43 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 1ns4n3 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Nani! Great games, great decision making!


Are you f****ing serious ?

Have you even watched theses games ?
He deserved NONE of his wins

/signed


Its ok man, when a Korean does it it's smart, aggressive play that's punishing greed.

When NaNi does it, it's apparently Protoss imba and completely undeserved.

Luckily, Toss fans are used to this.


we are not flaming nani, we are flaming protoss all ins, you should've realized it and now stop protecting him like you are his best friend for ever


Sorry I missed the first series. Why did Naniwa not deserve his two wins against Lucifron?
Cheesy all-inns. Whiners gonna whine. etc etc etc.

Pretty boring games though, for real.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 16:51:36
July 10 2013 16:50 GMT
#319
On July 11 2013 01:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:48 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:46 Crownlol wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:43 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 1ns4n3 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Nani! Great games, great decision making!


Are you f****ing serious ?

Have you even watched theses games ?
He deserved NONE of his wins

/signed


Its ok man, when a Korean does it it's smart, aggressive play that's punishing greed.

When NaNi does it, it's apparently Protoss imba and completely undeserved.

Luckily, Toss fans are used to this.


we are not flaming nani, we are flaming protoss all ins, you should've realized it and now stop protecting him like you are his best friend for ever


Sorry I missed the first series. Why did Naniwa not deserve his two wins against Lucifron?

Take a wild guess (unless you're being facetious).

On July 11 2013 01:50 Green_25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:42 Eury wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 ntssauce wrote:
i think we can all agree that lucifron was better and the 2nd game had nothing to do with " perfect micro " ( micro spamming few FFs LOL nice what toss consider micro nowadays ) , but how strong the push itself was.


I think we can all agree that Naniwa is a much better player than Luci ever can hope to be considering he beat him with insane lag from Korea. Luci was overrated already in Warcraft 3 and that story continues in SC 2.

Please, Naniwa would be shit without protoss. He's really good at preparing builds, which is great for a protoss player. In terms of actual skill theres no contest

This is one of the sillies thing's I've seen all day, and I've been reading this thread since Page 6.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 10 2013 16:50 GMT
#320
On July 11 2013 01:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:48 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:46 Crownlol wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:43 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 1ns4n3 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Nani! Great games, great decision making!


Are you f****ing serious ?

Have you even watched theses games ?
He deserved NONE of his wins

/signed


Its ok man, when a Korean does it it's smart, aggressive play that's punishing greed.

When NaNi does it, it's apparently Protoss imba and completely undeserved.

Luckily, Toss fans are used to this.


we are not flaming nani, we are flaming protoss all ins, you should've realized it and now stop protecting him like you are his best friend for ever


Sorry I missed the first series. Why did Naniwa not deserve his two wins against Lucifron?

3 all ins in a row. Lucifron fans/protoss/naniwa haters took objection to that.
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