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TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
June 29 2013 06:26 GMT
#141
I wonder how long both Pro players and casuals will have to endure Star Station. This map is soooooooooo bad, I can't think of a reason, why it remains in every tournament mappool.
GG FXO, was to be expected, especially with the lineup prime showed. Terror, Chance and Annyeong showed a lot of flaws in basics of the game, which indicates, why they were not fielded earlier.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 29 2013 06:31 GMT
#142
On June 29 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 15:18 Dodgin wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:17 lichter wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:14 Dodgin wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:12 lichter wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:10 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Leenock to come out last, he's warming up now. I just think it's too late if they lose now TT


Not sure how tiebreakers work this season. It's either going to be warnings and then head-to-head or the other way around. Not sure how many warnings the teams have, but FXO lost to both ST and Azubu so it doesn't look good unless ST or Azubu get creamed in their last game.


I'm pretty sure It's just map score and not head to head, map score modified by -1 for each warning.


What if mapscores are tied? They need another tiebreaker rule and it's usually head-to-head.


well yeah if It's a tie then probably head to head, but that's not the default.


Yes I meant after map scores

tie breaker after map scores is warnings
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 29 2013 06:32 GMT
#143
On June 29 2013 15:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:18 Dodgin wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:17 lichter wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:14 Dodgin wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:12 lichter wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:10 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Leenock to come out last, he's warming up now. I just think it's too late if they lose now TT


Not sure how tiebreakers work this season. It's either going to be warnings and then head-to-head or the other way around. Not sure how many warnings the teams have, but FXO lost to both ST and Azubu so it doesn't look good unless ST or Azubu get creamed in their last game.


I'm pretty sure It's just map score and not head to head, map score modified by -1 for each warning.


What if mapscores are tied? They need another tiebreaker rule and it's usually head-to-head.


well yeah if It's a tie then probably head to head, but that's not the default.


Yes I meant after map scores

tie breaker after map scores is warnings


FXO is in deep trouble then, they have 2 warnings and both st and azubu have 1.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 29 2013 06:33 GMT
#144
wp by sc!
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Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
June 29 2013 06:33 GMT
#145
On June 29 2013 15:26 TeeTS wrote:
I wonder how long both Pro players and casuals will have to endure Star Station. This map is soooooooooo bad, I can't think of a reason, why it remains in every tournament mappool.
GG FXO, was to be expected, especially with the lineup prime showed. Terror, Chance and Annyeong showed a lot of flaws in basics of the game, which indicates, why they were not fielded earlier.

What's so bad about Star Station?

Annyeong and Chance only recently joined Prime. There were four new signings about a week ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418150
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
June 29 2013 06:35 GMT
#146
well, ggs, hope that fxo can make it!!
~ The Ultimate Weapon
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 06:42:50
June 29 2013 06:42 GMT
#147
On June 29 2013 15:32 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 15:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:18 Dodgin wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:17 lichter wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:14 Dodgin wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:12 lichter wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:10 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Leenock to come out last, he's warming up now. I just think it's too late if they lose now TT


Not sure how tiebreakers work this season. It's either going to be warnings and then head-to-head or the other way around. Not sure how many warnings the teams have, but FXO lost to both ST and Azubu so it doesn't look good unless ST or Azubu get creamed in their last game.


I'm pretty sure It's just map score and not head to head, map score modified by -1 for each warning.


What if mapscores are tied? They need another tiebreaker rule and it's usually head-to-head.


well yeah if It's a tie then probably head to head, but that's not the default.


Yes I meant after map scores

tie breaker after map scores is warnings


FXO is in deep trouble then, they have 2 warnings and both st and azubu have 1.


FXO advance as long as Startale lose. Azubu need to lose 2-4 for FXO to advance if Startale win.
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
June 29 2013 06:44 GMT
#148
On June 29 2013 15:33 Melliflue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 15:26 TeeTS wrote:
I wonder how long both Pro players and casuals will have to endure Star Station. This map is soooooooooo bad, I can't think of a reason, why it remains in every tournament mappool.
GG FXO, was to be expected, especially with the lineup prime showed. Terror, Chance and Annyeong showed a lot of flaws in basics of the game, which indicates, why they were not fielded earlier.

What's so bad about Star Station?

Annyeong and Chance only recently joined Prime. There were four new signings about a week ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418150


Star Station is really hard for Protoss since there's about a thousand angles for Dropships to get inserted into their bases. Also the wide open spaces limit the effectiveness of forcefield and let terran get good concaves.
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zodiaczerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Canada63 Posts
June 29 2013 06:56 GMT
#149
On June 29 2013 14:44 Bagration wrote:
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On June 29 2013 14:43 Thrillz wrote:
Man, Prime decided to start other players way too late into the season.


They did this on purpose. Gerrard doesn't trust these guys it seems, and only sends them out when Prime has already been eliminated.


It's pretty unfair that he doesn't trust them. They need more practice and the only way they're going to get it is by putting them in the booth. Prime hasn't been shining for a long time so it seems counter productive to keep new players from trying. That's just my 2 cents though...
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
June 29 2013 06:56 GMT
#150
On June 29 2013 15:44 iaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 15:33 Melliflue wrote:
On June 29 2013 15:26 TeeTS wrote:
I wonder how long both Pro players and casuals will have to endure Star Station. This map is soooooooooo bad, I can't think of a reason, why it remains in every tournament mappool.
GG FXO, was to be expected, especially with the lineup prime showed. Terror, Chance and Annyeong showed a lot of flaws in basics of the game, which indicates, why they were not fielded earlier.

What's so bad about Star Station?

Annyeong and Chance only recently joined Prime. There were four new signings about a week ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418150


Star Station is really hard for Protoss since there's about a thousand angles for Dropships to get inserted into their bases. Also the wide open spaces limit the effectiveness of forcefield and let terran get good concaves.

Thanks. That makes sense. There did seem like a lot of space around the back of Creator's bases for dropships to wait around and to find a nice angle to go in.
zodiaczerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Canada63 Posts
June 29 2013 06:56 GMT
#151
On June 29 2013 14:00 Serinox wrote:
Just tuned in, is MKP not on the bench? Didn't spot him during the bench shots.

He wasn't there today... maybe he's sick... a lot of Prime seemed to be missing today
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
June 29 2013 06:57 GMT
#152
On June 29 2013 15:56 zodiaczerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 14:44 Bagration wrote:
On June 29 2013 14:43 Thrillz wrote:
Man, Prime decided to start other players way too late into the season.


They did this on purpose. Gerrard doesn't trust these guys it seems, and only sends them out when Prime has already been eliminated.


It's pretty unfair that he doesn't trust them. They need more practice and the only way they're going to get it is by putting them in the booth. Prime hasn't been shining for a long time so it seems counter productive to keep new players from trying. That's just my 2 cents though...


Exactly. A no consequences game like this is perfect for testing out new blood and giving them booth experience. If they manage to take a game or two then that's really good for their confidence and if they don't then nothing lost.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 29 2013 06:59 GMT
#153
On June 29 2013 15:56 zodiaczerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 14:00 Serinox wrote:
Just tuned in, is MKP not on the bench? Didn't spot him during the bench shots.

He wasn't there today... maybe he's sick... a lot of Prime seemed to be missing today


Only Barbie, MKP and Eins were missing afaik. Byun, Creator, Maru, terror, Chance and Annyeong were there with Gerrard
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 29 2013 07:02 GMT
#154
geez what happened to prime?
moo...for DRG
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 29 2013 07:02 GMT
#155
On June 29 2013 16:02 neoghaleon55 wrote:
geez what happened to prime?

already eliminated so trying out new players/annyeong returning
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zodiaczerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Canada63 Posts
June 29 2013 07:07 GMT
#156
On June 29 2013 15:59 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 15:56 zodiaczerg wrote:
On June 29 2013 14:00 Serinox wrote:
Just tuned in, is MKP not on the bench? Didn't spot him during the bench shots.

He wasn't there today... maybe he's sick... a lot of Prime seemed to be missing today


Only Barbie, MKP and Eins were missing afaik. Byun, Creator, Maru, terror, Chance and Annyeong were there with Gerrard

Okay nvm... I don't know why I thought there were more people missing. It still seems odd that MKP wasn't there...
zodiaczerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Canada63 Posts
June 29 2013 07:10 GMT
#157
On June 29 2013 15:57 iaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 15:56 zodiaczerg wrote:
On June 29 2013 14:44 Bagration wrote:
On June 29 2013 14:43 Thrillz wrote:
Man, Prime decided to start other players way too late into the season.


They did this on purpose. Gerrard doesn't trust these guys it seems, and only sends them out when Prime has already been eliminated.


It's pretty unfair that he doesn't trust them. They need more practice and the only way they're going to get it is by putting them in the booth. Prime hasn't been shining for a long time so it seems counter productive to keep new players from trying. That's just my 2 cents though...


Exactly. A no consequences game like this is perfect for testing out new blood and giving them booth experience. If they manage to take a game or two then that's really good for their confidence and if they don't then nothing lost.


Definitely. If they do what Terror did and take a game it's a great bonus. If they don't win, there's nothing to be lost because they're getting some experience in the both. It's just a pity that Gerrard doesn't like deviating from the Byun, MKP, Maru, Creator lineup
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
June 29 2013 07:22 GMT
#158
I asked Gerrard last week why he only fielded his fantastic 4 for the entire season, i see lots of people wondering so here is his answer :

Q: this GSTL season we only saw the same 4 players (ByuN, Maru, MarineKing and Creator), why was there only these 4 players playing this season ?
First of all, the 4 players are our best cards.
And as GSTL didn't really go as we hoped it would since we went on a loosing streak after all-killing azubu.
It was risky players that were not one of our 4 best players play.
If we were winning the league, we could've let the new members play and all, but we were desperate to win, so it seemed the best to let our 4 best players play.

link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418767

I was happy to see TerrOr get a win today i hope he can overcome his nerve issues quickly, i saw him practicing and he was so damn good !

On the other hand, Prime is dead last of GSTL this season T___T so sad =/
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Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
June 29 2013 07:54 GMT
#159
Prime without terran players (MKP,Maru,Byun) Is this real life

I heard TerrOr is quite good player on ladder, hope he can show some great games in future.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 29 2013 07:56 GMT
#160
On June 29 2013 16:54 Darrkhan wrote:
Prime without terran players (MKP,Maru,Byun) Is this real life

I heard TerrOr is quite good player on ladder, hope he can show some great games in future.


He didn't look so hot during his games (his win was a roach all in that went unscouted) but apparently he gets really nervous in the booth. Really young guy too, so he should get better with more experience.
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