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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
June 22 2013 12:12 GMT
#181
new blizzard rules force them to use twitch so why even talk about what could be else isnt allowed so ...
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Ounk
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany75 Posts
June 22 2013 12:12 GMT
#182
On June 22 2013 20:59 niekoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 20:58 Ounk wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:56 niekoz wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:53 Blix wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:52 TaKeTV wrote:
We will start at 3pm CEST, because twitch.tv wont be online till 2pm! Sorry about that <3


Take, stream B is fine, stream A is down - if that can't be resolved, please make sure there is good stuff on B =)


Stream A is up but only for subscribers. Mayb they cant fix that cuz it's running okay

Doesn't work for me although I am subscriber.


Did you reset your password and everything? Weird..

No. I tried to reset it, but the page doesn't load. Now every Twitch page says just "403 Forbidden"
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 12:20:46
June 22 2013 12:13 GMT
#183
On June 22 2013 21:08 Volrath wrote:
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On June 22 2013 21:06 Killmouse wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:30 govie wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:28 Thrillz wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:24 ilmeeni wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:23 govie wrote:
Twitch nhas never let me once in 2 years. Yes, sometimes some lag etc, but it streamed and it was free content. Since when is a monopoly bad when the services provided are free?


Monopoly is always bad, makes no difference if it's "free content" or not. What do you even mean by it being free? Twitch is not a non-profit organization.


Yes, when applied to the private sector, which in this case Twitch is part of.


Twitch isnt a monopolist, do your freakin homework. There leaderofthepack in oligopoly, because there are alternatives.

they are monopoly cauz they got for sure over 50% marketshare in game streaming


Maybe you should look up what monopoly is?


Over 50% in a marketshare can be considered dominant enough for a monopoly, but because there are so few game streaming services it's more oligopoly than anything.

nvm: confusing monopoly actions with the term.
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
June 22 2013 12:13 GMT
#184
sad
love esports - hate homophobia
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 12:16:24
June 22 2013 12:14 GMT
#185
On June 22 2013 21:06 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 20:30 govie wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:28 Thrillz wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:24 ilmeeni wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:23 govie wrote:
Twitch nhas never let me once in 2 years. Yes, sometimes some lag etc, but it streamed and it was free content. Since when is a monopoly bad when the services provided are free?


Monopoly is always bad, makes no difference if it's "free content" or not. What do you even mean by it being free? Twitch is not a non-profit organization.


Yes, when applied to the private sector, which in this case Twitch is part of.


Twitch isnt a monopolist, do your freakin homework. There leaderofthepack in oligopoly, because there are alternatives.

they are monopol cauz they got for sure over 50% marketshare in game streaming

Aaaaand ... the answer iiiiiis: WRONG! Deduuuh.
The verb "monopolize" refers to the process by which a company gains the ability to raise prices or exclude competitors. In economics, a monopoly is a single seller. Source: our beloved wikipedia.org/wiki/monopoly)

That we EUs lag on twitch has nothing to do with either oligo- or monopoly just with the fact that either twitch doesn't have enough ressources or just lazyness.
In long term they are scared enough for compititors like Youtube/Google.

CAn't wait u.u
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
June 22 2013 12:16 GMT
#186
On June 22 2013 21:10 JazVM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 21:08 Volrath wrote:
On June 22 2013 21:06 Killmouse wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:30 govie wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:28 Thrillz wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:24 ilmeeni wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:23 govie wrote:
Twitch nhas never let me once in 2 years. Yes, sometimes some lag etc, but it streamed and it was free content. Since when is a monopoly bad when the services provided are free?


Monopoly is always bad, makes no difference if it's "free content" or not. What do you even mean by it being free? Twitch is not a non-profit organization.


Yes, when applied to the private sector, which in this case Twitch is part of.


Twitch isnt a monopolist, do your freakin homework. There leaderofthepack in oligopoly, because there are alternatives.

they are monopoly cauz they got for sure over 50% marketshare in game streaming


Maybe you should look up what monopoly is?


Can well all settle on a technical ogliopoly while realistically there is 0 competition regarding the target group?


Yeah, agreed.I mean there is some competition but it seems tiny. Semantics are great and all but I think the overall point people are trying to make is that we're way too reliant on this one streaming service, as evidenced by today.
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
June 22 2013 12:17 GMT
#187
On June 22 2013 21:16 jimothyjim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 21:10 JazVM wrote:
On June 22 2013 21:08 Volrath wrote:
On June 22 2013 21:06 Killmouse wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:30 govie wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:28 Thrillz wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:24 ilmeeni wrote:
On June 22 2013 20:23 govie wrote:
Twitch nhas never let me once in 2 years. Yes, sometimes some lag etc, but it streamed and it was free content. Since when is a monopoly bad when the services provided are free?


Monopoly is always bad, makes no difference if it's "free content" or not. What do you even mean by it being free? Twitch is not a non-profit organization.


Yes, when applied to the private sector, which in this case Twitch is part of.


Twitch isnt a monopolist, do your freakin homework. There leaderofthepack in oligopoly, because there are alternatives.

they are monopoly cauz they got for sure over 50% marketshare in game streaming


Maybe you should look up what monopoly is?


Can well all settle on a technical ogliopoly while realistically there is 0 competition regarding the target group?


Yeah, agreed.I mean there is some competition but it seems tiny. Semantics are great and all but I think the overall point people are trying to make is that we're way too reliant on this one streaming service, as evidenced by today.

Woot? You are always relying on a service partner/provider cO
Thats why there is something like SLAs etc.
Its unfortunate but could happen to anyone...
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
dumplings
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 12:20:06
June 22 2013 12:18 GMT
#188
Why do they do this on weekend? Its only about the cache login problem what they are fixing. the homepage doesnt tell anything about new servers (capacity).

http://blog.twitch.tv/2013/06/site-outage-passwords-and-stream-keys-reset/
Please don't leave! The drones need you! They're looking up to you!
budar
Profile Joined February 2011
175 Posts
June 22 2013 12:19 GMT
#189
Hm, this seems so weird that Twitch would do any form of major maintenance on a weekend. Really strange...
ninjaqed
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway22 Posts
June 22 2013 12:20 GMT
#190
what the hell is happening??
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
June 22 2013 12:20 GMT
#191
On June 22 2013 21:19 budar wrote:
Hm, this seems so weird that Twitch would do any form of major maintenance on a weekend. Really strange...

Lol what? There was a major hick-up in the server/DB communication. It is not like they scheduled it ...
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 12:21:17
June 22 2013 12:20 GMT
#192
On June 22 2013 21:19 budar wrote:
Hm, this seems so weird that Twitch would do any form of major maintenance on a weekend. Really strange...


I don't think they planed on it breaking, hopefully it's up soon.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
June 22 2013 12:22 GMT
#193
A lot of the criticism in here is just flat-out wrong. The reason no small startups can compete is that a company like Twitch has been expanding server locations constantly for 2 years and still has lag/issues in certain areas.

A small startup's site will run like absolute shit compared to Twitch, so the only real way for anyone to be BETTER than Twitch is if they had BETTER global coverage (Google, Microsoft, Apple, or something).

On June 22 2013 21:19 budar wrote:
Hm, this seems so weird that Twitch would do any form of major maintenance on a weekend. Really strange...

This wasn't intended.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
June 22 2013 12:23 GMT
#194
Can I get my pitchfork now? pleeeaaaase?
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
June 22 2013 12:24 GMT
#195
If alternatives are there, it still can be considered a monopoly, just cause they are bad/inaccessible. You wont rent a bicycle, ever, to cross the desert if there is a car rental nearby.
YersiniaPestis
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany43 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 12:24:55
June 22 2013 12:24 GMT
#196
will twitch be back until 3pm cest?
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
June 22 2013 12:25 GMT
#197
They should set up the stream on Youtube/other alternatives
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 22 2013 12:26 GMT
#198
On June 22 2013 21:25 Arnstein wrote:
They should set up the stream on Youtube/other alternatives


I believe youtube doesn't work/isn't allowed in Germany.
squale
Profile Joined September 2011
France17 Posts
June 22 2013 12:26 GMT
#199
After this week end twitch will probably want new employees since they may fire some they had until now.

Twitch are you looking for french worker ?
fishb00n
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany607 Posts
June 22 2013 12:26 GMT
#200
last 3 HSC twitch had issues. poor Take ;(
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