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[GSTL] MVP vs. PRIME 2013 Season 1 - Page 15

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FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
June 14 2013 10:27 GMT
#281
I want to watch a great Monster Macro game, but I want to see Maru win it at the very end, just for the sake of keeping this series interesting to watch.
I am the 0.0007% /forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17208334|| Big Black Women Vocals Is Like Porn to my Ears ||San Antonio Spurs|Boston Celtics||#1EZToss Hater;
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 14 2013 10:27 GMT
#282
On June 14 2013 19:26 Laryleprakon wrote:
The decent Azubu guys will probably go to Kespa, doubt Prime can offer them much.

I think Liquid & EG will pick up some of them especially Symbol and Violet
Moderatorlickypiddy
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 14 2013 10:27 GMT
#283
On June 14 2013 19:27 Dodgin wrote:
I had the stream muted, did the casters mention Azubu disbanding or something?


Kaldor just said if they do Prime could grab some of their zergs.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
June 14 2013 10:27 GMT
#284
On June 14 2013 19:27 Dodgin wrote:
I had the stream muted, did the casters mention Azubu disbanding or something?

No just that it might happen in the worst case scenario, and that if so, Prime should pick up some of the players.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
June 14 2013 10:28 GMT
#285
On June 14 2013 19:25 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 19:24 Heartland wrote:
On June 14 2013 19:23 Dodgin wrote:
On June 14 2013 19:22 Heartland wrote:
On June 14 2013 19:21 Pandemona wrote:
Oh take note Gerrard, MVP sending out a B teamer and look where they are in GSTL! TOP

QQ MOAR


And remember how well it's worked for EG-TL!

Wait


EG-TL doesn't have B teamers, that's one of their biggest problems that puts them behind the Kespa teams.


Explain, plz.


They don't have enough practice partners, players that can dedicate their time to helping the A teamers prepare for a specific match. That's one of the main practice methods for teams like KT and SKT.


Okay. I have no idea about their internal practice regimen. Thanks.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 10:29:12
June 14 2013 10:28 GMT
#286
Why would they disband? I mean aren't they a well backed financial team due to their LoL team dominating?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
June 14 2013 10:28 GMT
#287
On June 14 2013 19:24 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 19:23 Dodgin wrote:
On June 14 2013 19:22 Heartland wrote:
On June 14 2013 19:21 Pandemona wrote:
Oh take note Gerrard, MVP sending out a B teamer and look where they are in GSTL! TOP

QQ MOAR


And remember how well it's worked for EG-TL!

Wait


EG-TL doesn't have B teamers, that's one of their biggest problems that puts them behind the Kespa teams.


Explain, plz.

Practice partners. Because Kespa teams have dedicated B-teamers, they can be the "practice slaves" for the players starting on a specific map. That way the A-teamers don't have to split their attention and can concentrate on the single map they are assigned too. They also can train against any specific strat they want too, as they can just have the B-teamer prepare it. It has many advantages actually.
If you compare this to EGTL, basically everybody except maybe two or so of their players already has a map to prepare for on their own, so they must be lacking a lot of specific training. That, coupled with their streaming obligations and a lack of coaching staff beyond their main coach really put them on a bad foot right from the start.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 14 2013 10:29 GMT
#288
On June 14 2013 19:27 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 19:26 Laryleprakon wrote:
The decent Azubu guys will probably go to Kespa, doubt Prime can offer them much.

I think Liquid & EG will pick up some of them especially Symbol and Violet


Yea, I think Violet would depend on his visa issues.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
June 14 2013 10:29 GMT
#289
Wow 5 SCVs killed, so pesky by Nakseo.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
June 14 2013 10:31 GMT
#290
On June 14 2013 19:28 Pandemona wrote:
Why would they disband? I mean aren't they a well backed financial team due to their LoL team dominating?

They sold their LoL teams to CJ, and apparantly Azubu is financed through a Korean financial criminal.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 14 2013 10:31 GMT
#291
On June 14 2013 19:28 Pandemona wrote:
Why would they disband? I mean aren't they a well backed financial team due to their LoL team dominating?


Their is a TL thread about the shaddy nature of the money backing them + they sold both lol teams ages ago.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 10:31:55
June 14 2013 10:31 GMT
#292
Damn wtf, how did only 9 drones die then lol.

OHHHHHHH, ok then lol. The mobster run E-Sport team ? xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 10:32:01
June 14 2013 10:31 GMT
#293
On June 14 2013 19:31 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 19:28 Pandemona wrote:
Why would they disband? I mean aren't they a well backed financial team due to their LoL team dominating?


Their is a TL thread about the shaddy nature of the money backing them + they sold both lol teams ages ago.

this is the thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406145&currentpage=18
Moderatorlickypiddy
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 14 2013 10:32 GMT
#294
On June 14 2013 19:28 Pandemona wrote:
Why would they disband? I mean aren't they a well backed financial team due to their LoL team dominating?

Azubu? Their team has been just a money-cleaning fraud or something. Big thread about it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406145

MVP? Well their sponsors only want to do with their LoL teams and not SC2. Which leaves their SC2 squad in money trouble. DRG was supposed to go DH summer tomorrow but didn't due to money issues.
리노크 👑
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 14 2013 10:32 GMT
#295
On June 14 2013 19:28 Pandemona wrote:
Why would they disband? I mean aren't they a well backed financial team due to their LoL team dominating?


I guess you missed this thread?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406145

More specifically starting from this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406145&currentpage=12#225
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
June 14 2013 10:32 GMT
#296
On June 14 2013 19:28 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 19:24 Heartland wrote:
On June 14 2013 19:23 Dodgin wrote:
On June 14 2013 19:22 Heartland wrote:
On June 14 2013 19:21 Pandemona wrote:
Oh take note Gerrard, MVP sending out a B teamer and look where they are in GSTL! TOP

QQ MOAR


And remember how well it's worked for EG-TL!

Wait


EG-TL doesn't have B teamers, that's one of their biggest problems that puts them behind the Kespa teams.


Explain, plz.

Practice partners. Because Kespa teams have dedicated B-teamers, they can be the "practice slaves" for the players starting on a specific map. That way the A-teamers don't have to split their attention and can concentrate on the single map they are assigned too. They also can train against any specific strat they want too, as they can just have the B-teamer prepare it. It has many advantages actually.
If you compare this to EGTL, basically everybody except maybe two or so of their players already has a map to prepare for on their own, so they must be lacking a lot of specific training. That, coupled with their streaming obligations and a lack of coaching staff beyond their main coach really put them on a bad foot right from the start.


Thank you.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 14 2013 10:33 GMT
#297
On June 14 2013 19:32 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 19:28 Pandemona wrote:
Why would they disband? I mean aren't they a well backed financial team due to their LoL team dominating?

Azubu? Their team has been just a money-cleaning fraud or something. Big thread about it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406145

MVP? Well their sponsors only want to do with their LoL teams and not SC2. Which leaves their SC2 squad in money trouble. DRG was supposed to go DH summer tomorrow but didn't due to money issues.

Was it confirmed that it was money issues?
Moderatorlickypiddy
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
June 14 2013 10:33 GMT
#298
damn he is really working that creep
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 14 2013 10:34 GMT
#299
On June 14 2013 19:33 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 19:32 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On June 14 2013 19:28 Pandemona wrote:
Why would they disband? I mean aren't they a well backed financial team due to their LoL team dominating?

Azubu? Their team has been just a money-cleaning fraud or something. Big thread about it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406145

MVP? Well their sponsors only want to do with their LoL teams and not SC2. Which leaves their SC2 squad in money trouble. DRG was supposed to go DH summer tomorrow but didn't due to money issues.

Was it confirmed that it was money issues?

that's what DRG fanclub was going about iirc, they have a direct line to the coach and drg (they being neo i guess)
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
June 14 2013 10:34 GMT
#300
Monster living up to his reputation as a Seal-grade creep-spreader.
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