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Wednesday, Jun 12 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0TkMJCy.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Kd6ZShS.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/s450q1E.png) Almost unnoticed by MMA's strong performance, MVP conceded their second(-ish) loss in the Acer Teamstory Cup. A strong Acer could beat MVP, can a strong Millenium do the same? Lure <Neo Planet S>  Dayshi<Cloud Kingdom> <Daybreak> <Whirlwind> <Newkirk Precinct> <ESL Star Station> <Akilon Wastes> <Bel'shir Vestige> <Ohana>
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bv8Kw.png) + Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] ++ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +Lure <Neo Planet S> DayshiTAiLS <Cloud Kingdom> Dayshi DRG <Daybreak> DayshiTAiLS** <Whirlwind> DayshiNAKSEO* <Newkirk Precinct> Dayshi<ESL Star Station> <Akilon Wastes> <Bel'shir Vestige> <Ohana> 0-5finishedTHIS... IS... DAYSHIIIIIIII! An all-kill is already hard enough, but against the nearly invincible MVP? Is the next French superstar already on his way?
* = ace. Last player on team can be chosen from the entire lineup, even if the player was eliminated before.
** = revive. Twice per season a team can revive a player that already was eliminated.
* = ace. Last player on team can be chosen from the entire lineup, even if the player was eliminated before.
** = revive. Twice per season a team can revive a player that already was eliminated.
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Poll: Head?Millenium (20) 56% MVP (16) 44% 36 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): MVP
(Vote): Millenium
Poll: Heart?Millenium (34) 85% MVP (6) 15% 40 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): MVP
(Vote): Millenium
Poll: Head?Axiom (15) 65% mouz (8) 35% 23 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Axiom
(Vote): mouz
Poll: Heart?mouz (18) 51% Axiom (17) 49% 35 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Axiom
(Vote): mouz
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Please don't derail the thread with Karont3 talk or "I won't watch" comments. You can post the former to here and I humbly ask you to keep the latter to yourself.
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MVP only lose when they send out Sangho too much. Keep him benched and they'll win easily again.
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ForGG is in Korea so his matches will be lagless. Can be un advantage for both him and MVP players though. I really hope Millenium wins but MVP is a very strong team. Anyway a loss wouldn't be that bad considered Millenium's ranking.
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Can Lucifron and Vortix play for Mouz?
And Axiom really needs to pick up another player soon.
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On June 12 2013 08:45 Bagration wrote:
Can Lucifron and Vortix play for Mouz?
And Axiom really needs to pick up another player soon.
no, not yet, I think they're out for another two weeks at least
correct me if I'm wrong, SinCitta
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On June 12 2013 09:46 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 08:45 Bagration wrote:
Can Lucifron and Vortix play for Mouz?
And Axiom really needs to pick up another player soon. no, not yet, I think they're out for another two weeks at least correct me if I'm wrong, SinCitta
Once Lucifron and Vortix start playing for Mouz, Mouz will have one of the deepest rosters in the ATC, with the brothers, and Mana, Hasuobs, Heromarine and Illusion.
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On June 12 2013 08:45 Bagration wrote:
Can Lucifron and Vortix play for Mouz?
And Axiom really needs to pick up another player soon.
They need Coca!!!!
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On June 12 2013 10:15 Walnuts wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 08:45 Bagration wrote:
Can Lucifron and Vortix play for Mouz?
And Axiom really needs to pick up another player soon. They need Coca!!!!
I don't know, if they really wanted to pick up Coca, they would have signed him already by now. Dreamhack Stockholm was a long time ago, and we really haven't heard much from Coca since then. I'd love to see Axiom Coca, but it seems unlikely to me
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On June 12 2013 09:46 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 08:45 Bagration wrote:
Can Lucifron and Vortix play for Mouz?
And Axiom really needs to pick up another player soon. no, not yet, I think they're out for another two weeks at least correct me if I'm wrong, SinCitta
Ryo said in his statement that players would have to wait two playdays after transferring from one ATC team to another. But he also said that LucifroN and VortiX were allowed to play last week already. So either it's a wrong info or they don't consider Karont3 an ATC team anymore, making all players of their former roster instantly eligible for other teams.
French viewers reported that Acer.Kaoru said they would have to wait a month to play. This probably corresponds to the two playdays rule, as the one month rule is very abusable. Mouz could just abuse scheduling and schedule everything a month late.
A TakeTV admin said that LucifroN and VortiX are able to play because of the start of the new season half.
Nazgul said that new players can only be added by admin exception. So there is probably no written rule about that and admins just communicate in which cases they would let new players in.
So you see, it's a mess. I really hope there is some official clarification about it soon. Despite my obvious friendliness towards the ATC, it's still a $20,000 league and it needs more clearly written out rules.
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Hope for Dayshi upsetting MVP.
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On June 12 2013 07:13 StarVe wrote:
MVP only lose when they send out Sangho too much. Keep him benched and they'll win easily again.
Well, MVP's playoff tickets are already pretty safe. Best oppurtunity to send him out. But it's super strange that he performs so well in Korean qualifiers for something with the sickets participants, but doesn't look so good against foreigners.
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Dayshi vs Billowy - Fight!
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GG DAYSHI wins after betting his balls to win the last game. Billowy GG'ed a bit early though.
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Order of maps is probably wrong. It's the same as in Week 10. They correctly changed the Week to 11 since yesterday, but didn't change the map order.
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Lets see how Dayshi deals with all-ins 
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On June 12 2013 20:28 Daswollvieh wrote:Lets see how Dayshi deals with all-ins
Is a 3rd nexus at 5 minutes considered as an all-in ? :D
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Uhm a triple nexus with just Mothership Core and 2 sentries. Tails doesn't stop cheesing, doesn't he ?
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On June 12 2013 20:30 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:28 Daswollvieh wrote:Lets see how Dayshi deals with all-ins Is a 3rd nexus at 5 minutes considered as an all-in ? :D
Haha, when it´s Tails, it´s always an all-in.
Even if it´s good ol´ 5 base 25min skytoss push.
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Damn, when I return, I want to see a Dayshi all-kill, please.
Gogogo!
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Looks like the timewarps backfired. :D
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And with that fail from Tails, Dayshi wins the game. 2 down, 3 to go !
Edit : Tails almost managed to salvage his situation.
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Russian Federation337 Posts
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Oh, looks like MVP is angry :D
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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outsch, is he really all killing MVP right now?
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Belgica34432 Posts
Damn Dayshi has been playing like a beast lately
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What did Dayshi play vs DRG?
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It's probably for the best that DRG stays home from DH.
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On June 12 2013 21:06 Type|NarutO wrote:
What did Dayshi play vs DRG?
1 rax expo into hellbat drop. He didnt play amazing just drg played terrible <.<
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On June 12 2013 21:06 Type|NarutO wrote:
What did Dayshi play vs DRG?
2 bases marine marauder medivac hellbat without a 3rd CC or ebays
DRG made the mistake of pushing out with 10~15 roachs.. which didn't end well since Dayshi got stim right at that moment and then counter attacked and won.
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I'm very happy for Dayshi's recent result, showing how good he became. On the other hand I'm sad to see so many protoss losing to terrans recently. I hope what was said by David Kim about hellbats will be considered in TvP as well.
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On June 12 2013 21:06 Type|NarutO wrote:
What did Dayshi play vs DRG?
mvp's MMM+hellbats 2 base build. DRG suicided his roaches into dayshi's army, probably expecting him to play 3CC.
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How as Dayshi doing this?!
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I thought a team could revive a player only 2 times during the season. But duckdeok already got revived twice. Does the "season" word mean a round ?
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This is actually MVP's third use of the two seasonal revives, but I guess the use in the Karont3 clanwar doesn't count anymore.
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Please Dayshi, don't struggle again offline at DreamHack T_T
NAKSEO next. And again, MVP revives don't make sense.
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On June 12 2013 21:12 Aeromi wrote:
Dayshi is on fire ! o/
Indeed, he really looks unstoppable today!
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dayshi for the allkill plz :D
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Canada16217 Posts
time to sleep, calling it nakseo reverse all-kill.
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On June 12 2013 21:32 NovemberstOrm wrote:
time to sleep, calling it nakseo reverse all-kill.
did you forget forgg ?
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On June 12 2013 21:32 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 21:32 NovemberstOrm wrote:
time to sleep, calling it nakseo reverse all-kill. did you forget forgg ?
forgg vZ i'd definitely give the edge to monster.
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LOL 10 minutes, 83 drones.
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this is what happen when you have marines 3/3 against 2/2 zerglings
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This was Dayshis second all-kill (Quantic). He's 6-1 against MVP and 15-5 in total. Not bad.
Kill list:
Bang
Succeed
Minigun
Zenio
TLO
x2 HyuN
StarDust
HwangSin
Center
Billowy
x2 TAiLS
DRG
Monster
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Interview in french on Millenium TV !
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On June 12 2013 21:48 Makro wrote:
this is what happen when you have marines 3/3 against 2/2 zerglings
and 1/0 mutas
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6 wins in a row ! Millenium almost all-killed the TeamStory Cup.
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On June 12 2013 21:48 Makro wrote:
this is what happen when you have marines 3/3 against 2/2 zerglings
This is what happens when you have hellbats and mines :p
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On June 12 2013 21:48 krutopatkin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 21:48 Makro wrote:
this is what happen when you have marines 3/3 against 2/2 zerglings and 1/0 mutas
when i saw that dayshi was up to 133 food against 175 for the zerg with a huge upgrade advantage(3/3), i knew that the game was already won for dayshi
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
I want to know what Millenium feeds their players
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On June 12 2013 21:48 AlternativeEgo wrote:
This was Dayshis second all-kill (Quantic). He's 6-1 against MVP and 15-5 in total. Not bad.
Kill list:
Bang
Succeed
Minigun
Zenio
TLO
x2 HyuN
StarDust
HwangSin
Center
Billowy
x2 TAiLS
DRG
Monster
That's a korean heavy list! He needs a lan win now !
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On June 12 2013 21:50 Zealously wrote:
I want to know what Millenium feeds their players
+ Show Spoiler +
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papa john out, camembert in! 
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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DRG 
how is this possible DRG omg
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Sick play by Dayshi ! Dreamhack soon, I hope he'll play well even if he lose !
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On June 12 2013 21:49 Avicularia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 21:48 Makro wrote:
this is what happen when you have marines 3/3 against 2/2 zerglings This is what happens when you have hellbats and mines :p
Hi Nerchio !
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What the hell?! O______o
This kid... Why can't he be more consistent? ;;
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He has a lack of offline experience but he has improved a lot recently, then I hope he will do well at Dreamhack.
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On June 12 2013 22:08 GL999et1000 wrote:
He has a lack of offline experience but he has improved a lot recently, then I hope he will do well at Dreamhack.
And last time he was in a group with Leenock and HuK. Of course HuK isn't as good as he was in 2011 but his experience is huge.
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On June 12 2013 22:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
What the hell?! O______o
This kid... Why can't he be more consistent? ;;
Well he is actually consistently improving recently.
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On June 12 2013 21:48 AlternativeEgo wrote:
This was Dayshis second all-kill (Quantic). He's 6-1 against MVP and 15-5 in total. Not bad.
Kill list:
Bang
Succeed
Minigun
Zenio
TLO
x2 HyuN
StarDust
HwangSin
Center
Billowy
x2 TAiLS
DRG
Monster
I'd like to add to this list the fact that he also beat Sage, YuGiOh and TheStC in the Ritmix gNations finals before losing to HyuN.
He's really been tearing it up recently. o0;;
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Call EG! We need this guy in Proleague!
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On June 12 2013 22:12 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
What the hell?! O______o
This kid... Why can't he be more consistent? ;; Well he is actually consistently improving recently.
I'm very well aware of this fact, however he's not consistently posting good results, which is the saddest part. To see him in such good shape at the beginning of HotS only to lose in the group stages of Dreamhack to HuK and Sjow was very disheartening.
Hopefully he's still on an upswing and will do better at DH Summer. ^^
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On June 12 2013 22:17 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Call EG! We need this guy in Proleague!
^^ word :D
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Why do you guys want him on EG? He's just getting good.
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Proleague is too high level. Would be a sure way to crush confidence of an up and coming player
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Why is TaKe showing a rerun of Mill-MVP atm., is Mouz-Axiom delayed? Edit: Nvm, I´m just to dumb to read.
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OMG >< Dayshi, what a boss. New Stephano on the way ??
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Really improved since he met Squirtle 2 weeks ago. I can feel the practice in his TvP thanks to Squirtle.
By the way, he stated during a post interview on M's stream that it was to early to expect him to do really well in a DH with such a line up. He prefers not to be expected as a favorite or at least a beaty challenger.
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Holy shit Dayshi, so epic, france has nothing to worry about if stephano retires, congratz!
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Are VortiX and LucifroN allowed to compete in this for Mouz because I heard there was a rule of not allowing any roster changes in this? huk huk huk
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Ryung vs hOpe will be the first match.
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France7248 Posts
starting with Ryung vs hOpe
edit: aw :<
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That's strange, not only is he unlisted under the calendar event but I haven't seen him in my "following" directory (and I refresh it quite often lol).
Thanks~
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haha hope was in total control of the game then total collaps in 3 seconds
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is lucifron playing today?
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France7248 Posts
On June 12 2013 23:18 AyaaLa wrote:
is lucifron playing today?
yes, right now...
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On June 12 2013 23:19 Yhamm wrote:yes, right now...
That just answered my question. What a joke this league is, lol.
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On June 12 2013 23:21 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 23:19 Yhamm wrote:On June 12 2013 23:18 AyaaLa wrote:
is lucifron playing today? yes, right now... That just answered my question. What a joke this league is, lol.
Yup, you would think there would be some transitional period...Strange pick considering Ryung's best matchup is TvT, should be a close match regardless.
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On June 12 2013 23:18 AyaaLa wrote:
is lucifron playing today?
yea but I heard he is losing hard
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MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them)
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On June 12 2013 23:27 SinCitta wrote:
MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them)
They just did against Millenium. But I don't think any admin was smart enough to notice that. I wonder who these guys are.
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On June 12 2013 23:27 SinCitta wrote:
MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them)
I hope there'll be a confirmation of this.
TaKe need to communicate about the rule to give back to this league the credibilty it deserves (and so that we can update Liquipedia :p )
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On June 12 2013 23:28 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 23:27 SinCitta wrote:
MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them) They just did against Millenium. But I don't think any admin was smart enough to notice that. I wonder who these guys are.
I think SinCitta assumes the revive against Karont3 is considered as non existent, so that the one against Millenium is the second.
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On June 12 2013 23:31 Serimek wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 23:27 SinCitta wrote:
MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them) I hope there'll be a confirmation of this. TaKe need to communicate about the rule to give back to this league the credibilty it deserves (and so that we can update Liquipedia :p )
To be honest it never really had any credibility to begin with for me anyway. We've seen several teams/sponsors hold their own team leagues already. It's great that they're doing 19 weeks of this for the regular season but I don't think anyone would give much thought to it at the end of the day compared to a lot of other things.
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viking raven beats viking battlecruiser
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On June 12 2013 23:34 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 23:31 Serimek wrote:On June 12 2013 23:27 SinCitta wrote:
MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them) I hope there'll be a confirmation of this. TaKe need to communicate about the rule to give back to this league the credibilty it deserves (and so that we can update Liquipedia :p ) To be honest it never really had any credibility to begin with for me anyway. We've seen several teams/sponsors hold their own team leagues already. It's great that they're doing 19 weeks of this for the regular season but I don't think anyone would give much thought to it at the end of the day compared to a lot of other things.
On that note, was there ever any incident of a similar or comparable nature with the EG Master's Cup League? I haven't followed that all too closely but I don't remember any amount of drama beyond the -orb- event.
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On June 12 2013 23:34 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 23:31 Serimek wrote:On June 12 2013 23:27 SinCitta wrote:
MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them) I hope there'll be a confirmation of this. TaKe need to communicate about the rule to give back to this league the credibilty it deserves (and so that we can update Liquipedia :p ) To be honest it never really had any credibility to begin with for me anyway. We've seen several teams/sponsors hold their own team leagues already. It's great that they're doing 19 weeks of this for the regular season but I don't think anyone would give much thought to it at the end of the day compared to a lot of other things.
I agree, but at least at the end of the day I hope we'll be considering this league as a legit (minor) tournament, and not a farce.
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On June 12 2013 23:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 23:34 StarStruck wrote:On June 12 2013 23:31 Serimek wrote:On June 12 2013 23:27 SinCitta wrote:
MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them) I hope there'll be a confirmation of this. TaKe need to communicate about the rule to give back to this league the credibilty it deserves (and so that we can update Liquipedia :p ) To be honest it never really had any credibility to begin with for me anyway. We've seen several teams/sponsors hold their own team leagues already. It's great that they're doing 19 weeks of this for the regular season but I don't think anyone would give much thought to it at the end of the day compared to a lot of other things. On that note, was there ever any incident of a similar or comparable nature with the EG Master's Cup League? I haven't followed that all too closely but I don't remember any amount of drama beyond the -orb- event.
No idea. I've paid very little attention to both. I've seen a few matches here and there, but I haven't gone out of my way to watch a lot of it.
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70+ worker for both, noone is sacrificing any
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Damn, seekers can be so sexy :o
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Funny how Lucifron was playing for K3 less than two weeks ago 
And the group stage is too long for this kind of thing IMO, 18 weeks is quite a stretch for this kind of league IMO. Still a good tournament though, lots of good games mid-week, no reason to complain 
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On June 12 2013 23:42 teddyoojo wrote:
70+ worker for both, noone is sacrificing any
Because it will be a game of trades rather than "I kill your army and i kill your base" so they need economy.
But it hurts to see Ryung not macroing when he's 180/200.
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On June 12 2013 23:43 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Damn, seekers can be so sexy :o
and so useless
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I like seekers on vikings, ballsy pilots charge into the opponent, chickens retreat.
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France7248 Posts
lol, dropping mules to force the friendly fire on tanks :D
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On June 12 2013 23:41 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 23:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 12 2013 23:34 StarStruck wrote:On June 12 2013 23:31 Serimek wrote:On June 12 2013 23:27 SinCitta wrote:
MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them) I hope there'll be a confirmation of this. TaKe need to communicate about the rule to give back to this league the credibilty it deserves (and so that we can update Liquipedia :p ) To be honest it never really had any credibility to begin with for me anyway. We've seen several teams/sponsors hold their own team leagues already. It's great that they're doing 19 weeks of this for the regular season but I don't think anyone would give much thought to it at the end of the day compared to a lot of other things. On that note, was there ever any incident of a similar or comparable nature with the EG Master's Cup League? I haven't followed that all too closely but I don't remember any amount of drama beyond the -orb- event. No idea. I've paid very little attention to both. I've seen a few matches here and there, but I haven't gone out of my way to watch a lot of it.
If I remember correctly, SlayerS and Quantic disband during last EGMC, but it was easy to handle as it was between group stage and playoffs. Team Vile forfeit in another EGMC also, and every other team got a walkover, but these are different case.
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Also, Blizzard and tournament organizers i think it's time to get rid of this map
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they should mulerain the other guys' bases
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thors still in missile mode lol :3. A kingdom for some ghosts heh.
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i dont get why lucifron added thors, they are so inferior in against air only
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Shakuras 2.0. But Skyterran is great to watch :D
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On June 12 2013 23:47 Nerchio wrote:
Also, Blizzard and tournament organizers i think it's time to get rid of this map
Metropolis 2.0 ?
On June 12 2013 23:51 Boucot wrote:
Shakuras 2.0. But Skyterran is great to watch :D
Or that, I guess...
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On June 12 2013 23:41 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 23:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 12 2013 23:34 StarStruck wrote:On June 12 2013 23:31 Serimek wrote:On June 12 2013 23:27 SinCitta wrote:
MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them) I hope there'll be a confirmation of this. TaKe need to communicate about the rule to give back to this league the credibilty it deserves (and so that we can update Liquipedia :p ) To be honest it never really had any credibility to begin with for me anyway. We've seen several teams/sponsors hold their own team leagues already. It's great that they're doing 19 weeks of this for the regular season but I don't think anyone would give much thought to it at the end of the day compared to a lot of other things. On that note, was there ever any incident of a similar or comparable nature with the EG Master's Cup League? I haven't followed that all too closely but I don't remember any amount of drama beyond the -orb- event. No idea. I've paid very little attention to both. I've seen a few matches here and there, but I haven't gone out of my way to watch a lot of it.
There was a teamleague managed by someone that was also a team manager at that time. People wanted to have Empire invited to a qualifier for that league. Empire was considered to be the Top 2 team in Europe. The manager said something like "who the fuck is Empire". Long story short, Empire won the next season of the league including a win against the team of said manager.
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Jesus, what a game.
Ryung is definitely up there in the ranks of "most epic games played in".
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On June 12 2013 23:51 teddyoojo wrote:
i dont get why lucifron added thors, they are so inferior in against air only
not against terran sky, they pick apart BCs and Banshees so no damage to ground. You don't even have air control because of the thors range. But of course you need to put your thors into cannon mode before they are down to 3 ....
that being said ... rofl what a fail by lucifron, but the no spread was quiet typical for him.
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don't know why they put a terran against ryung...
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On June 12 2013 23:51 SinCitta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 23:41 StarStruck wrote:On June 12 2013 23:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 12 2013 23:34 StarStruck wrote:On June 12 2013 23:31 Serimek wrote:On June 12 2013 23:27 SinCitta wrote:
MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them) I hope there'll be a confirmation of this. TaKe need to communicate about the rule to give back to this league the credibilty it deserves (and so that we can update Liquipedia :p ) To be honest it never really had any credibility to begin with for me anyway. We've seen several teams/sponsors hold their own team leagues already. It's great that they're doing 19 weeks of this for the regular season but I don't think anyone would give much thought to it at the end of the day compared to a lot of other things. On that note, was there ever any incident of a similar or comparable nature with the EG Master's Cup League? I haven't followed that all too closely but I don't remember any amount of drama beyond the -orb- event. No idea. I've paid very little attention to both. I've seen a few matches here and there, but I haven't gone out of my way to watch a lot of it. There was a teamleague managed by someone that was also a team manager at that time. People wanted to have Empire invited to a qualifier for that league. Empire was considered to be the Top 2 team in Europe. The manager said something like "who the fuck is Empire". Long story short, Empire won the next season of the league including a win against the team of said manager.
o0;;
That's really interesting, was this a notable event? Because I can't remember anything of that sort happening.
Also, my point in asking was that if someone managed to do it without a hitch (EG was the first example that came to mind) then it was certainly doable and the fact that the tournament organizers may coincide or intersect with the staff of a participating team does not make said tournament lose all credibility in and of itself.
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On June 12 2013 23:53 Waxangel wrote:
what insanity o_O
Hope you wrote a little note as a reminder for when the best games of 2013 list is made.
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neither of them want to win rofl, game of throw
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France7248 Posts
poor vikings... just like in the hots trailer
the map is almost out of gaz :D
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United States33559 Posts
marine drops could change the complexion of this game potentially!
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On June 12 2013 23:57 Waxangel wrote:
marine drops could change the complexion of this game potentially!
Wut ?
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United States97276 Posts
lol i just tuned in to see the end. wtf
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Sick game; I thought Lucifron had it for a moment.
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Thors with cannons make TvT ground only again thanks to endless scans. Atleast one matchups where siege tanks work through the whole game.
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i loved how lucifron took ryungs gas and landed an orbital next to it near the end of the game, cute little move
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On June 12 2013 23:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 23:51 SinCitta wrote:On June 12 2013 23:41 StarStruck wrote:On June 12 2013 23:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 12 2013 23:34 StarStruck wrote:On June 12 2013 23:31 Serimek wrote:On June 12 2013 23:27 SinCitta wrote:
MVP could pick a third a third seasonal revive, too. I think they handle the Karont3 issue by pretending they never participated (wins/losses against them deleted, no transfer period, no revives used against them) I hope there'll be a confirmation of this. TaKe need to communicate about the rule to give back to this league the credibilty it deserves (and so that we can update Liquipedia :p ) To be honest it never really had any credibility to begin with for me anyway. We've seen several teams/sponsors hold their own team leagues already. It's great that they're doing 19 weeks of this for the regular season but I don't think anyone would give much thought to it at the end of the day compared to a lot of other things. On that note, was there ever any incident of a similar or comparable nature with the EG Master's Cup League? I haven't followed that all too closely but I don't remember any amount of drama beyond the -orb- event. No idea. I've paid very little attention to both. I've seen a few matches here and there, but I haven't gone out of my way to watch a lot of it. There was a teamleague managed by someone that was also a team manager at that time. People wanted to have Empire invited to a qualifier for that league. Empire was considered to be the Top 2 team in Europe. The manager said something like "who the fuck is Empire". Long story short, Empire won the next season of the league including a win against the team of said manager. o0;; That's really interesting, was this a notable event? Because I can't remember anything of that sort happening. Also, my point in asking was that if someone managed to do it without a hitch (EG was the first example that came to mind) then it was certainly doable and the fact that the tournament organizers may coincide or intersect with the staff of a participating team does not make said tournament lose all credibility in and of itself.
It was one of the two bigger teamleagues that existed back then. But nobody really cared much about online stuff. I am not 100% sure whether the league where Empire was not invited to and the league which Empire owned after that was the same, though.
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sending out protoss vs terran on star station!? mouz going full loco
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United States33559 Posts
with all those extra minerals, I wonder how more hellion runbys would have worked to cut off each other's gas mining
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gogo ryung owned that losi guy
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On June 13 2013 00:08 Tsubbi wrote:
sending out protoss vs terran on star station!? mouz going full loco
MaNa, historically best against Terran vs Ryung, historically worst against Protoss...
This could get ugly X.x
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ryung hasn't been bad against protoss since like mid 2012 tho
he's decidedly "okay" now (and that's at a Korean level)
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On June 13 2013 00:09 Waxangel wrote:
ryung hasn't been bad against protoss since like mid 2012 tho
he's decidedly "okay" now (and that's at a Korean level)
Well I guess you're right, given that
"In these games, Ryung is 61–51 (54%) in games and 24–24 (50%) in matches." (from June 1st 2012 to now)
Although I would argue that these are inflated by beating relatively low tier foreign Protosses. He's also lost to foreign Protosses (including MaNa himself) to boot.
All things considered it's still weaker than his vZ or vT.
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ryungs window to win this was HUUUUUUUUUUUUGE, but that he waited this long... its even if mana is not ahead now.
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i hope for an ace rematch vs lucifron :p
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Fuck dat, go go Ryung for the all-kill! :D
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Agh, I am really hoping that mouz won't get all-killed by Ryung, but it is looking bleak.
With Lucifron and Vortix unable to play, not much is standing in Ryung's way anymore...
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On June 13 2013 00:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
Agh, I am really hoping that mouz won't get all-killed by Ryung, but it is looking bleak.
With Lucifron and Vortix unable to play, not much is standing in Ryung's way anymore...
What? you missed the hour long match he played against Lucifron?
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On June 13 2013 00:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
Agh, I am really hoping that mouz won't get all-killed by Ryung, but it is looking bleak.
With Lucifron and Vortix unable to play, not much is standing in Ryung's way anymore...
What exactly do you mean by unable to play? LucifroN played the 2nd match. o0;;
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On June 13 2013 00:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
Agh, I am really hoping that mouz won't get all-killed by Ryung, but it is looking bleak.
With Lucifron and Vortix unable to play, not much is standing in Ryung's way anymore...
Why are they unable? We just saw Luci, we definetly could see Vortix too.
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On June 13 2013 00:31 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 00:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
Agh, I am really hoping that mouz won't get all-killed by Ryung, but it is looking bleak.
With Lucifron and Vortix unable to play, not much is standing in Ryung's way anymore... What exactly do you mean by unable to play? LucifroN played the 2nd match. o0;;
Wait what? Yes, I missed all the games till now due to work, but I thought that players who played on a team this season may not play for other teams?
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On June 13 2013 00:31 Boucot wrote:
HeRoMaRinE ? WTF ?
In these games, HeRoMaRinE is 76–56 (58%) in games and 28–18 (61%) in matches. (Heart of the Swarm only)
I don't see the issue?
On June 13 2013 00:32 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 00:31 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 13 2013 00:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
Agh, I am really hoping that mouz won't get all-killed by Ryung, but it is looking bleak.
With Lucifron and Vortix unable to play, not much is standing in Ryung's way anymore... What exactly do you mean by unable to play? LucifroN played the 2nd match. o0;; Wait what? Yes, I missed all the games till now due to work, but I thought that players who played on a team this season may not play for other teams?
Apparently they may...
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On June 13 2013 00:32 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 00:31 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 13 2013 00:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
Agh, I am really hoping that mouz won't get all-killed by Ryung, but it is looking bleak.
With Lucifron and Vortix unable to play, not much is standing in Ryung's way anymore... What exactly do you mean by unable to play? LucifroN played the 2nd match. o0;; Wait what? Yes, I missed all the games till now due to work, but I thought that players who played on a team this season may not play for other teams?
You have to watch that game. You really do.
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Why Lucifron can play for Mouz while Karont3 was banned from the tourney because they asked if they can get 2 players?
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On June 13 2013 00:32 MasterOfPuppets wrote:In these games, HeRoMaRinE is 76–56 (58%) in games and 28–18 (61%) in matches. (Heart of the Swarm only) I don't see the issue? Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 00:32 JustPassingBy wrote:On June 13 2013 00:31 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 13 2013 00:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
Agh, I am really hoping that mouz won't get all-killed by Ryung, but it is looking bleak.
With Lucifron and Vortix unable to play, not much is standing in Ryung's way anymore... What exactly do you mean by unable to play? LucifroN played the 2nd match. o0;; Wait what? Yes, I missed all the games till now due to work, but I thought that players who played on a team this season may not play for other teams? Apparently they may...
The problem is not the player quality but he's 2-8 in this TeamStory Cup and TvT is Ryung's best matchup. I was expecting VortiX or HasuObs.
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Welp, I didn't know Dayshi was good.
When did Dayshi get good?
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On June 13 2013 00:41 KristofferAG wrote:
Welp, I didn't know Dayshi was good.
When did Dayshi get good?
Why are you associated with aligulac again?
It was around HotS release.
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On June 13 2013 00:41 KristofferAG wrote:
Welp, I didn't know Dayshi was good.
When did Dayshi get good?
He finished 2nd in WCS France one year ago. He was already good at this time. He kept improving month after month, thus was recruited by Millenium in October. Living and training with ForGG must help for sure. :p
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Pretty sad a team can field 2 players that previously played for another team in the same tournament 2 weeks prior. Who made these rules?
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On June 13 2013 00:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 00:41 KristofferAG wrote:
Welp, I didn't know Dayshi was good.
When did Dayshi get good? Why are you associated with aligulac again? It was around HotS release.
I've been neglecting my Aligulac duties since about two months after I started helping out, because I stopped watching SC2 ehehe.
Also I never really followed the foreigner scene that much :>
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Yeaaaah LucifroN ! 1 hour please ! \o/
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On June 13 2013 00:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 00:41 KristofferAG wrote:
Welp, I didn't know Dayshi was good.
When did Dayshi get good? Why are you associated with aligulac again? It was around HotS release.
Actually I believe it was slightly earlier (end of 2012, beginning of 2013), when his training with ForGG started to really be fruitful (especially in term of work ethic). But it's true that it became patent with HotS and the end of Zerg OPness.
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On June 13 2013 00:21 ratbert wrote:
i hope for an ace rematch vs lucifron :p
my prayers have been answered!
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Oooops... was not Ohana, it's Bel'Shir Vestige... they look so similar on the minimap.
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On June 13 2013 00:48 Serimek wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 00:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 13 2013 00:41 KristofferAG wrote:
Welp, I didn't know Dayshi was good.
When did Dayshi get good? Why are you associated with aligulac again? It was around HotS release. Actually I believe it was slightly earlier (end of 2012, beginning of 2013), when his training with ForGG started to really be fruitful (especially in term of work ethic). But it's true that it became patent with HotS and the end of Zerg OPness.
Well he showed quite a bit of potential beforehand but it wasn't until the advent of HotS that he started getting more consistent and better results, and not ones limited to the French scene either.
On June 13 2013 00:51 SinCitta wrote:
Oooops... was not Ohana, it's Bel'Shir Vestige... they look so similar on the minimap.
Glad I'm not the only one who makes this mistake. >_<
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Norway25712 Posts
Can't believe that Ryung is able to do so much with just a handful marines and a couple mines. Wow.
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On June 13 2013 00:52 KristofferAG wrote:
Can't believe that Ryung is able to do so much with just a handful marines and a couple mines. Wow.
Ryung on the other hand has been good way waaay before you went inactive. This shouldn't surprise you, if indeed you only followed the Korean scene. 
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Ryung has a pretty big tech advantage now.
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On June 13 2013 00:53 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 00:52 KristofferAG wrote:
Can't believe that Ryung is able to do so much with just a handful marines and a couple mines. Wow. Ryung on the other hand has been good way waaay before you went inactive. This shouldn't surprise you, if indeed you only followed the Korean scene.
I know, I know, but I thought Luci was considered really good. And I'd expect someone considered "really good" to not let that much damage be done to himself.
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That site is wrong, since it's a match from Week 11, not Week 10. And the mappool on that site is from Week 10, too. I think they are playing the map order from Week 11 now, but they started on Neo Planet S (1st map of Week 10).
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uuuuuhhhh....
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On June 13 2013 00:56 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 00:53 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On June 13 2013 00:52 KristofferAG wrote:
Can't believe that Ryung is able to do so much with just a handful marines and a couple mines. Wow. Ryung on the other hand has been good way waaay before you went inactive. This shouldn't surprise you, if indeed you only followed the Korean scene. I know, I know, but I thought Luci was considered really good. And I'd expect someone considered "really good" to not let that much damage be done to himself.
Ryung is a TvT master at a top Korean level...
PS
This game was really weird... why did LucifroN not go for the mineral line with all those hellions after destroying most of that army? :|
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With Ryung holding that there's not much Luci can do to come back from being far behind on tech. Upgrades in Ryung's favor as well.
Double all-kill day!
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On June 13 2013 00:57 SinCitta wrote:That site is wrong, since it's a match from Week 11, not Week 10. And the mappool on that site is from Week 10, too. I think they are playing the map order from Week 11 now, but they started on Neo Planet S (1st map of Week 10).
but millenium MVP was played on these maps and it is week 11 too
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One doesn't simply copy ForGG.
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Holy shit, double ALL-KILL in one day, crazy
Seriously, Mad probs to Dayshi! Guy is seriously showing some potential these days
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On June 12 2013 19:03 Daswollvieh wrote:
Hope for Dayshi upsetting MVP.
DAYSHI, you sexy Frenchman! How is this guy such an all-killing machine?
Chapeau.
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Another French Revolution?
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On June 13 2013 00:59 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 00:57 SinCitta wrote:That site is wrong, since it's a match from Week 11, not Week 10. And the mappool on that site is from Week 10, too. I think they are playing the map order from Week 11 now, but they started on Neo Planet S (1st map of Week 10). but millenium MVP was played on these maps and it is week 11 too
That was also wrong I guess they noticed after game 1 in the second clanwar.
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On June 13 2013 00:59 Boucot wrote:
One doesn't simply copy ForGG.
Haha so true! :D
Mass hellions are in the early stages of the game a really strong opening in tvt, since so many people rely on hellbats in the early game.
Still a bit disappointed about lucifron for such an early gg. He could have tried it.
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On June 13 2013 01:03 SinCitta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 00:59 Yhamm wrote:On June 13 2013 00:57 SinCitta wrote:That site is wrong, since it's a match from Week 11, not Week 10. And the mappool on that site is from Week 10, too. I think they are playing the map order from Week 11 now, but they started on Neo Planet S (1st map of Week 10). but millenium MVP was played on these maps and it is week 11 too That was also wrong I guess they noticed after game 1 in the second clanwar.
what do you mean wrong?
Millenium vs MVP & Axiom vs Mouz are matchs of week 11 and should have been played on the same maps
I couldn't see Mill vs MVP so I can't say, but if I look at the OP, they played the maps shown on the official website and that are not the same maps that Mouz & Axiom just played
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On June 13 2013 01:06 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 01:03 SinCitta wrote:On June 13 2013 00:59 Yhamm wrote:On June 13 2013 00:57 SinCitta wrote:That site is wrong, since it's a match from Week 11, not Week 10. And the mappool on that site is from Week 10, too. I think they are playing the map order from Week 11 now, but they started on Neo Planet S (1st map of Week 10). but millenium MVP was played on these maps and it is week 11 too That was also wrong I guess they noticed after game 1 in the second clanwar. what do you mean wrong? Millenium vs MVP & Axiom vs Mouz are matchs of week 11 and should have been played on the same maps I couldn't see Mill vs MVP so I can't say, but if I look at the OP, they played the maps shown on the official website and that are not the same maps that Mouz & Axiom just played
When I was making the OP, I noticed that on the official site, that the matchsite titled both games as Week 10 games and the map order was the one from Week 10, although both mouz and MVP played on Week 10 already. The schedule on the official site correctly said that they are Week 11 matches.
They changed the matchsite for MVP vs Millenium correctly to Week 10, but they forgot to change the map order to the Week 11 one. So the map order between Axiom and mouz (after game 1) should be the correct Week 11 one.
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On June 13 2013 01:11 SinCitta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 01:06 Yhamm wrote:On June 13 2013 01:03 SinCitta wrote:On June 13 2013 00:59 Yhamm wrote:On June 13 2013 00:57 SinCitta wrote:That site is wrong, since it's a match from Week 11, not Week 10. And the mappool on that site is from Week 10, too. I think they are playing the map order from Week 11 now, but they started on Neo Planet S (1st map of Week 10). but millenium MVP was played on these maps and it is week 11 too That was also wrong I guess they noticed after game 1 in the second clanwar. what do you mean wrong? Millenium vs MVP & Axiom vs Mouz are matchs of week 11 and should have been played on the same maps I couldn't see Mill vs MVP so I can't say, but if I look at the OP, they played the maps shown on the official website and that are not the same maps that Mouz & Axiom just played When I was making the OP, I noticed that on the official site, that the matchsite titled both games as Week 10 games and the map order was the one from Week 10, although both mouz and MVP played on Week 10 already. The schedule on the official site correctly said that they are Week 11 matches. They changed the matchsite for MVP vs Millenium correctly to Week 10, but they forgot to change the map order to the Week 11 one. So the map order between Axiom and mouz (after game 1) should be the correct Week 11 one.
ok, so the match Mill vs MVP was played on the wrong maps. woah =/
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On June 13 2013 01:14 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 01:11 SinCitta wrote:On June 13 2013 01:06 Yhamm wrote:On June 13 2013 01:03 SinCitta wrote:On June 13 2013 00:59 Yhamm wrote:On June 13 2013 00:57 SinCitta wrote:That site is wrong, since it's a match from Week 11, not Week 10. And the mappool on that site is from Week 10, too. I think they are playing the map order from Week 11 now, but they started on Neo Planet S (1st map of Week 10). but millenium MVP was played on these maps and it is week 11 too That was also wrong I guess they noticed after game 1 in the second clanwar. what do you mean wrong? Millenium vs MVP & Axiom vs Mouz are matchs of week 11 and should have been played on the same maps I couldn't see Mill vs MVP so I can't say, but if I look at the OP, they played the maps shown on the official website and that are not the same maps that Mouz & Axiom just played When I was making the OP, I noticed that on the official site, that the matchsite titled both games as Week 10 games and the map order was the one from Week 10, although both mouz and MVP played on Week 10 already. The schedule on the official site correctly said that they are Week 11 matches. They changed the matchsite for MVP vs Millenium correctly to Week 10, but they forgot to change the map order to the Week 11 one. So the map order between Axiom and mouz (after game 1) should be the correct Week 11 one. ok, so the match Mill vs MVP was played on the wrong maps. woah =/
Everyday this is getting better and better.
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I was at work all day,come back and....WOW just wow !
Congratulation dayshi !!!
Well played mah boy !
Call the police millenium house is probably full of coke right now.
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When he joined Millenium he made a blog post about how he was only eating croque-monsieurs all day long.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croque-monsieur
I don't know if he still keeps eating that now.
edit: lol I was replying to a page 4 comment :x I should have refreshed.
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two terran all kills in one day? crazy stuff
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On June 13 2013 08:05 Emzeeshady wrote:Go Ryung! He didn't really beat anyone too impressive but I just love watching him win . MVP needs more Terrans :/
lucifron? mana? aren't they pretty decent players?
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