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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
June 09 2013 09:19 GMT
#7321
On June 09 2013 18:18 BLinD-RawR wrote:
STARLEAGUE IS BACK!


Time for a golden mouse for Jangbi!

Also, that was a nice video of previous champions. I liked it a lot.
Flash | Mvp
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
June 09 2013 09:19 GMT
#7322
On June 09 2013 18:17 tomatriedes wrote:
Pretty lame that there was no 3rd/4th place playoff. It would have been epic.

Mvp vs. Soulkey? Hell yes
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
June 09 2013 09:20 GMT
#7323
I Believe that E - sports is going in the right direction with this event . Maybe SC2 will reach the popularity of BW in Korea .
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 09 2013 09:20 GMT
#7324
Innovation so overhyped. 28% TvP lol
Huehuehue.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
June 09 2013 09:20 GMT
#7325
On June 09 2013 18:19 slowbacontron wrote:
Kim Carrier curse 1-0 Artosis curse


Surely that's always been true? Kim Carrier's curse is unbreakable. Has he ever predicted a single outcome right?
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
6NR
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1472 Posts
June 09 2013 09:20 GMT
#7326
On June 09 2013 18:18 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:18 6NR wrote:
Did Artosis predict sOs?

no he said Innovation


He is the greatest RTS player after all!

LOL, at least
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
June 09 2013 09:20 GMT
#7327
On June 09 2013 18:19 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:17 tomatriedes wrote:
Pretty lame that there was no 3rd/4th place playoff. It would have been epic.

Mvp vs. Soulkey? Hell yes


...naw Soulkey would have embrassed MVP ez pz
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 09 2013 09:20 GMT
#7328
On June 09 2013 18:14 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:11 cablesc wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:06 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:05 forsooth wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:03 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:02 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:01 General Nuke Em wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:00 Lunareste wrote:
huge crowd, jeeeeesus

One third the size of the last BW OSL.

And let's not even talk about the Superbowl!

dude 2004 or 2005 bw proleague IOPS had more than superbowl (any year) 120k

Let me know when 100 million people tune in to watch SC, then you can stop making absolutely ridiculous comparisons.

we weren't talking about online or tv audiences. Live is where it matters.


Who gives a crap about these stupid pissing contests. Nascar has had 400k crowds. Does that make it the best?

I just mentioned it. who said anything about it being a contest or that bw was the best. I stated a fact and people tried to make up a reason for why i did that. TT


If you want to state facts you should maybe understand that the 120k for proleague, is just an estimate, that is most probably way too much.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
June 09 2013 09:20 GMT
#7329
On June 09 2013 18:17 Stol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:15 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:14 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:12 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:08 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:06 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:05 forsooth wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:03 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:02 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:01 General Nuke Em wrote:
[quote]
One third the size of the last BW OSL.

And let's not even talk about the Superbowl!

dude 2004 or 2005 bw proleague IOPS had more than superbowl (any year) 120k

Let me know when 100 million people tune in to watch SC, then you can stop making absolutely ridiculous comparisons.

we weren't talking about online or tv audiences. Live is where it matters.


Uh, not even remotely. TV/Online audiences make up the majority of advertising revenue for major sporting events.

I was comparing live audiences. that's why i said live is where it matters. Proleague has had a bigger live audience than superbowl. FACT. If we dont take into consideration any other facts like price for seats etc etc, proleague had a bigger live audience and that is that.

Well another point is that no one really cares whether proleague has a bigger live audience so why are we even talking about this.

because compared the crowd to the last bw osl crowd.


This discussion is hilarious .


Some people just want to say something else is superior. BW vs SC2 still seems like a sensitive topic.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#7330
On June 09 2013 18:20 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:19 slowbacontron wrote:
Kim Carrier curse 1-0 Artosis curse


Surely that's always been true? Kim Carrier's curse is unbreakable. Has he ever predicted a single outcome right?

Yes he has
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
6NR
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1472 Posts
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#7331
On June 09 2013 18:02 kinverse wrote:
Poll: Storm+Tempest build. Viable?

Yes - but with a LOT more refinement (38)
 
83%

Yes - right now (6)
 
13%

No - fundamentally impossible (2)
 
4%

46 total votes

Your vote: Storm+Tempest build. Viable?

(Vote): Yes - right now
(Vote): Yes - but with a LOT more refinement
(Vote): No - fundamentally impossible




Dude seriously, stop making these stupid polls happen!
Theyre not gonna happen!
Marshall_D
Profile Joined November 2008
United States196 Posts
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#7332
On June 09 2013 18:11 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:06 vrok wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:05 Greendotz wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:02 iky43210 wrote:
tempest AI seems a bit stupid for the fact that you have 10 tempest shoot at a single marine.

Every unit has the same AI, it’s just exacerbated by the Tempest’s painfully slow rate of fire >.<

Except sieged tanks. I blame Dustin Browder.


It's not just Tanks. Any unit with an instant attack works that way, as opposed to those with a projectile with travel time. Immortals work the same way for example, it's just Tanks that really benefit from it the most.

Tempests actually have a lot of micro potential for this reason. If sOs was babysitting them and grabbing groups to manually target down Medivacs and Ghosts, they would have done far, far more damage. Honestly he was mechanically very sloppy throughout the entire series. A lot of his harassment attempts did nothing because the units were just a-moved in and were attacking far less than optimal targets, like that DT trying to solo a PF where it could have killed like 20 SCVs. He also tried to have several Oracles flying about keeping constant tabs on the enemy army movement and picking off SCVs where possible, but again he just couldn't keep up with it all. I would love to see that strategy tried by a player who really has the APM to control everything optimally.


i don't how you get off on saying sos wasn't microing or multitasking in those games. Just in game 4 you could see sos react to every attack at his 4th and 5ths with perfect storms. He was everywhere bogus was.
thats just inexperienced eyes watching starcraft. you have no idea what's going on.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#7333
On June 09 2013 18:20 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:19 slowbacontron wrote:
Kim Carrier curse 1-0 Artosis curse


Surely that's always been true? Kim Carrier's curse is unbreakable. Has he ever predicted a single outcome right?


I think only JangBi broke the curse .
Trius
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine273 Posts
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#7334
I thought we couldn't get worse finals than GSL finals, but.. we had
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#7335
On June 09 2013 18:19 6NR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:02 Lunareste wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:01 General Nuke Em wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:00 Lunareste wrote:
huge crowd, jeeeeesus

One third the size of the last BW OSL.


too bad we ain't playing BW anymore


is this an ever so subtle jab...

Justified. Why do people keep bringing up BW crowd stats when others talk about SC2. Different game. Different time. Move on people.


Why do people bring up former players who's fallen out of the championship runs?

Oh yea, because real fans don't just "move on" to what ever the new popular game / player is.

Don't mistake having a real passion for something past for aggressively devaluing what is currently popular.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#7336
On June 09 2013 18:20 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:14 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:11 cablesc wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:06 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:05 forsooth wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:03 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:02 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:01 General Nuke Em wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:00 Lunareste wrote:
huge crowd, jeeeeesus

One third the size of the last BW OSL.

And let's not even talk about the Superbowl!

dude 2004 or 2005 bw proleague IOPS had more than superbowl (any year) 120k

Let me know when 100 million people tune in to watch SC, then you can stop making absolutely ridiculous comparisons.

we weren't talking about online or tv audiences. Live is where it matters.


Who gives a crap about these stupid pissing contests. Nascar has had 400k crowds. Does that make it the best?

I just mentioned it. who said anything about it being a contest or that bw was the best. I stated a fact and people tried to make up a reason for why i did that. TT


If you want to state facts you should maybe understand that the 120k for proleague, is just an estimate, that is most probably way too much.


120k i think was established as an exaggeration. IIRC I heard the actual values were around 70k at the most.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50531 Posts
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#7337
On June 09 2013 18:19 6NR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:02 Lunareste wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:01 General Nuke Em wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:00 Lunareste wrote:
huge crowd, jeeeeesus

One third the size of the last BW OSL.


too bad we ain't playing BW anymore


is this an ever so subtle jab...

Justified. Why do people keep bringing up BW crowd stats when others talk about SC2. Different game. Different time. Move on people.


there are better ways of conveying the message. :/
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#7338
I had a feeling they are gonna get another Korean Air but whatever :p
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 09:24:16
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#7339
I'm just gonna get this out there, since I think there needs to be some perspective. That BW crowd wasn't even near 100k though, that's the thing. 30k is a better estimate, and while that's absolutely fantastic, it isn't a lie like 100,000 figure is.

[image loading]
That's the BW OSL crowd, definitely humongous. Claimed to be 100k. Keep in mind that there are seats, so the crowd will look bigger than it actually is.

[image loading]
Woodstock 99, actually 100,000 people in attendance. No chairs to make the floor look more occupied.

edit: woops, second picture isn't sizing correctly.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#7340
On June 09 2013 18:20 ChoDing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:19 farnham wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:17 tomatriedes wrote:
Pretty lame that there was no 3rd/4th place playoff. It would have been epic.

Mvp vs. Soulkey? Hell yes


...naw Soulkey would have embrassed MVP ez pz


That's what people said Innovation would do to Mvp as well
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