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iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 09:09:33
June 09 2013 09:09 GMT
#7201
On June 09 2013 18:07 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:07 iky43210 wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:05 forsooth wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:03 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:02 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:01 General Nuke Em wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:00 Lunareste wrote:
huge crowd, jeeeeesus

One third the size of the last BW OSL.

And let's not even talk about the Superbowl!

dude 2004 or 2005 bw proleague IOPS had more than superbowl (any year) 120k

Let me know when 100 million people tune in to watch SC, then you can stop making absolutely ridiculous comparisons.

I doubt a third of US tune in to watch superbowl.


Actually they do lol unless people from other countries can watch the super bowl (I have no idea if they can or not), I know for a fact the superbowl does get 100 million + people tuning in live.


Maybe not unique and over the weekend. Otherwise I don't see it happening
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
June 09 2013 09:09 GMT
#7202
On June 09 2013 18:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:07 blade55555 wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:07 iky43210 wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:05 forsooth wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:03 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:02 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:01 General Nuke Em wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:00 Lunareste wrote:
huge crowd, jeeeeesus

One third the size of the last BW OSL.

And let's not even talk about the Superbowl!

dude 2004 or 2005 bw proleague IOPS had more than superbowl (any year) 120k

Let me know when 100 million people tune in to watch SC, then you can stop making absolutely ridiculous comparisons.

I doubt a third of US tune in to watch superbowl.


Actually they do lol.

shitloads of people who dont care about football tune in even if it's just to see what ads will be played

that's me lol. I literally watch 1 pro football match a year beside my usual college football stuff.
Marshall_D
Profile Joined November 2008
United States196 Posts
June 09 2013 09:09 GMT
#7203
casters are as loud they can be, and the crowd is about as quiet as they can be.
kinverse
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)137 Posts
June 09 2013 09:09 GMT
#7204
sOs interview (right before the ceremony):

"First, congrats to Innovation. I really wanted to play with the best Terran player there is. I learned so much today, but more importantly I have to apologize to the fans for such a one-sided match. Hopefully I can have a better showing next time....He (Innovation) definitely played well but more than that I was too anxious and rushed it."
Fody03
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy310 Posts
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7205
On June 09 2013 18:07 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:04 Fody03 wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:03 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:02 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:01 General Nuke Em wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:00 Lunareste wrote:
huge crowd, jeeeeesus

One third the size of the last BW OSL.

And let's not even talk about the Superbowl!

dude 2004 or 2005 bw proleague IOPS had more than superbowl (any year) 120k


Fifa Wold Cup Finals had more.


I dont think a football stadium can fit more than 120K. Even the like of Maracana caps at 100K


I cant believe you actually tried to give a serious answer. jesus


Terrans
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7206
On June 09 2013 18:09 Ysellian wrote:
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On June 09 2013 18:07 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:07 Ysellian wrote:
sOs looks pretty happy oddly enough XD


20000$ ... big reason to be sad-.-


Losing a finals 4-0 would have MKP in tears.


MKP was never in a situation where the second place player gets 20k.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7207
Could Twitch stop spamming ads every 30 seconds.... ?
LiquipediaWanderer
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7208
eh
GSL trophy looks better
Everyday Girl's Day~!
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7209
On June 09 2013 18:08 DrPandaPhD wrote:
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On June 09 2013 18:06 trifecta wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:04 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:04 Isualin wrote:
why the fuck are they keeping sOs on stage? it must be really painful to stand there after losing 4-0(same thing happened when innovation lost to soulkey iirc)

They always does that, an interview with the loser. It's quite sad


He did just win 20k USD...

He also just lot a whole lot more. 2nd place is amazing, but when you just lost the finals you are upset. The reason the prize ceremony for olympic games are a while after the actual competition/match

I think he got beaten badly enough that he was able to absorb his loss. It's a lot harder when you lose a very close match than when you can say, okay my opponent was the better player this time and i need to work on it.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Zinthar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States394 Posts
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7210
On June 09 2013 18:05 ACrow wrote:
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On June 09 2013 18:00 SupLilSon wrote:
On June 09 2013 17:59 Prugelhugel wrote:
On June 09 2013 17:57 weiliem wrote:
Tempest was built to help in PvZ, then now it is abused in PvT. It seems so freaking op =.= what T composition can win against those tempest??

Seems like it's beaten by standard bio.


lol Innovation was making like his 8th CC while sOs was trying to take his 4th. Macro was the deciding factor there, not marines > tempest/storm

Now why was it that he was only trying to take his fourth? Right, because you can't defend very well with a Tempest based army, you constantly have to fall back to your HT and keep pulling your lines back, thereby exposing your base you're trying to defend. And of course T can just deny any base that the Tempests are not at, hence why he was trying to secure the middle. That's why this (weird) strat incurs a penalty on the macro, so yes, the army composition was a deciding factor here.
(Not saying that Innovation didn't macro near perfectly here, because he was).


Exactly -- in general, it seems like a terrible idea to build a bunch of slow, expensive units and encourage your terran opponent to build cheap glass cannons that will pick you apart.

Then you have to divide your gas between tempests and HT's, likely skipping the ground upgrades along the way. On the other hand, Innovation had so much gas to spare that he was able to research building armor and missile turret range, and still had a huge bank to fall back on. He can build loads of orbitals and dumps mules over any base that's far from the main protoss army.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 09:10:42
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7211
On June 09 2013 18:08 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:05 purakushi wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:05 pellejohnson wrote:
Can't believe I got up early for this one... Really really disappointing finals.


Such is SC2.

3-0 and 3-1 finals are not that rare in broodwar. Take off goggles


Score does not completely determine how good or bad a series is. It could be 4-0, but if the games themselves are good, the series is good.
T P Z sagi
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 09:10:56
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7212
On June 09 2013 18:07 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:06 Aunvilgod wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:03 Sewi wrote:
Can someone explain why more people are watching the OGN stream instead of GOM TV? I just watched the last 2 games and was shocked to see that their were only ~10k viewers on GOM TV?!


Apollo instead of SNM.

SNM is casting?! Oh god.


nononono I ment instead of the usual SNM Apollo/Day9/Doa are casting, thats why so many people watch.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7213
On June 09 2013 18:09 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:07 blade55555 wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:07 iky43210 wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:05 forsooth wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:03 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:02 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:01 General Nuke Em wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:00 Lunareste wrote:
huge crowd, jeeeeesus

One third the size of the last BW OSL.

And let's not even talk about the Superbowl!

dude 2004 or 2005 bw proleague IOPS had more than superbowl (any year) 120k

Let me know when 100 million people tune in to watch SC, then you can stop making absolutely ridiculous comparisons.

I doubt a third of US tune in to watch superbowl.


Actually they do lol unless people from other countries can watch the super bowl (I have no idea if they can or not), I know for a fact the superbowl does get 100 million + people tuning in live.


Maybe not unique and over the weekend. Otherwise I don't see it happening

You're acting like this is a debate, it's not. That's how many people actually watch it.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 09:13:25
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7214
Predictions for new Power rank anyone!?!?

Bogus still #1,
SK still #2
sOs goes up (as in improves his ranking by a bit)
Mvp not in the top ten LOL wtf TL Powerank team.
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7215
On June 09 2013 18:09 HaRuHi wrote:
T>P>Z>T sc balance.

Innovation has some resemblence with Oov, he just gonna keep on crushing everyone, but I feel most people wont appriciate hin much as a champion---until in like 3 years, when we look back and understand just how far ahead he was, but then again, will we really look back at a hots champion, once sc2 reaches is final form?

One of the very rare cases where money does not lie, hope he gets at least as much out of it as he can during his prime.


Actually i think it's Innovation>all
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7216
On June 09 2013 18:08 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:06 trifecta wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:04 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:04 Isualin wrote:
why the fuck are they keeping sOs on stage? it must be really painful to stand there after losing 4-0(same thing happened when innovation lost to soulkey iirc)

They always does that, an interview with the loser. It's quite sad


He did just win 20k USD...

He also just lot a whole lot more. 2nd place is amazing, but when you just lost the finals you are upset. The reason the prize ceremony for olympic games are a while after the actual competition/match


Yeah, I understand. To come so close, yet to fall. But it's not the end of the world. By most accounts, Yellow ended up as or more popular than Boxer as the underdog. The money is not too bad either.
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
June 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#7217
Use ad block if you are complaining about ads
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
June 09 2013 09:11 GMT
#7218
On June 09 2013 18:10 Dreamer.T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:09 Ysellian wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:07 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:07 Ysellian wrote:
sOs looks pretty happy oddly enough XD


20000$ ... big reason to be sad-.-


Losing a finals 4-0 would have MKP in tears.


MKP was never in a situation where the second place player gets 20k.

i think he got more than 20k for open season 3 second place
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
June 09 2013 09:11 GMT
#7219
On June 09 2013 18:10 Fody03 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:07 Arceus wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:04 Fody03 wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:03 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:02 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:01 General Nuke Em wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:00 Lunareste wrote:
huge crowd, jeeeeesus

One third the size of the last BW OSL.

And let's not even talk about the Superbowl!

dude 2004 or 2005 bw proleague IOPS had more than superbowl (any year) 120k


Fifa Wold Cup Finals had more.


I dont think a football stadium can fit more than 120K. Even the like of Maracana caps at 100K


I cant believe you actually tried to give a serious answer. jesus



Why? Were you trolling?
wat.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 09 2013 09:11 GMT
#7220
On June 09 2013 18:10 Dreamer.T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 18:09 Ysellian wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:07 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 09 2013 18:07 Ysellian wrote:
sOs looks pretty happy oddly enough XD


20000$ ... big reason to be sad-.-


Losing a finals 4-0 would have MKP in tears.


MKP was never in a situation where the second place player gets 20k.

MKP got $26700 for 2nd place in GSL Open Season 2
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