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On June 09 2013 14:30 JP Dayne wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:28 jalstar wrote:On June 09 2013 14:26 JP Dayne wrote:On June 09 2013 14:23 LighT. wrote:On June 09 2013 14:22 zodde wrote:On June 09 2013 14:20 JP Dayne wrote:On June 09 2013 14:17 EFermi wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 Evangelist wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:
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You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting... Nah he's just embarassed that his Kespa hero struggled like mad to make it past a guy with RSI so bad he can't feel his mouse hand clicking. I'd be embarassed too. This is coming from a guy who actually welcomed Kespa into the scene but gravely dislikes the BW fanbois and retarded elephant bs. Mvp is still the best terran player in the world. Nothing I saw in that series dissuades me from that. http://i.imgur.com/GFmrY.jpgI think this guy can dissuade you. is the flash=god thing still a thing? That's a universal truth, not "a thing". This man knows what he's talking about and we should discuss the fine universal truths over a beer. well I was just curious, because, you know, of results Is being more dominant in an RTS than anyone else ever not enough? It has to be the one he plays currently? erm... did you even read the whole discussion they were having?
It's not a particularly focused one.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51116 Posts
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On June 09 2013 14:26 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:21 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 14:16 Bagration wrote:On June 09 2013 14:15 StarStruck wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 Daogin wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 StarStruck wrote:On June 09 2013 14:10 BigFan wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 mordk wrote:
MVP we still love you, and I hope Innovation loses again, just so he can be confirmed as the biggest loser ever now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL  losing in two finals straight makes you the biggest loser ever? I'm confused. how big of a loser is MKP then Lol? I don't even consider MKP a loser. O.o He did win a few things back-to-back. albeit MLG. He is the 3rd most accomplished Terran of WOL after all Wait so you think the progression is Mvp, MMA, MKP? I don't think so. even though nobody asked if i ranked terran players from the top 1. flash 2. innovation 3.mvp or taeje reasons: flash has both insane micro and very brilliant in strategies innovation has well the best micro (i think) but not as good as flash .. because flash is flexible and better in tvt mvp has well insane decision making and is probably the most flexible of them all and does not crack under pressure even though he has bad micro .. idk about macro though and taeje is really good .. very flexible
ranked based solely on WoL achievements, your top 2 don't have squat.
As for right now I think that putting flash above INnoVation is pure fanboyism. Flash gets a lot of hype, but outside proleague he hasn't gone the distance yet. Proleague is SUCH a different tournament from individual tournaments that I think his stats there, while impressive, cause people to overestimate his ability.
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How long from now to finals?
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Innovation, Mvp, and Flash are the top terrans, you can argue about the order for so long there will be a new top terran by the time you decide.
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Looks like there will be stuff on stream in the mean time
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51116 Posts
On June 09 2013 14:30 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 14:21 DustbinBieber wrote:
Being left-handed is actually a handicap for lots of different mechanical reasons, keyboard design mostly. if hoejja can do it, anyone can do it. Dude, he can only do it in play offs.
dude, its where it matters the most.
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On June 09 2013 14:28 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:26 JP Dayne wrote:On June 09 2013 14:23 LighT. wrote:On June 09 2013 14:22 zodde wrote:On June 09 2013 14:20 JP Dayne wrote:On June 09 2013 14:17 EFermi wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 Evangelist wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:
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You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting... Nah he's just embarassed that his Kespa hero struggled like mad to make it past a guy with RSI so bad he can't feel his mouse hand clicking. I'd be embarassed too. This is coming from a guy who actually welcomed Kespa into the scene but gravely dislikes the BW fanbois and retarded elephant bs. Mvp is still the best terran player in the world. Nothing I saw in that series dissuades me from that. http://i.imgur.com/GFmrY.jpgI think this guy can dissuade you. is the flash=god thing still a thing? That's a universal truth, not "a thing". This man knows what he's talking about and we should discuss the fine universal truths over a beer. well I was just curious, because, you know, of results Is being more dominant in an RTS than anyone else ever not enough? It has to be the one he plays currently?
im sure flash is better than innovation .. he is also murdering almost everyone in PL .. i think the last time i check he has the most kills and ranking no. 1 in PL beating rain and innovation in it ... he is also the only player in the same caliber as innovation in terms of style of play .. so before(except his early start in sc2) and after still a God
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TLADT24920 Posts
On June 09 2013 14:26 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 14:23 SHODAN wrote:On June 09 2013 14:01 Entirety wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 Shock710 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote:
Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding. mvp is great and such a smart player, but not feeling the mouse is a bit over the top lol It's actually not over the top. Just yesterday in the OGN couch Mvp stated that when he's in the booth with the headset, he can't hear his clicks so he doesn't know if he's actually clicking... He can't feel his clicks, man. this is so sad. mvp, what a man unlike flash apparently his condition cannot be helped by surgery either. I don't think that's true, he just doesn't want to get the surgery because it means he would have to take a really long break from the game and he thinks he might as well retire if he can't compete for 6+ months.
this. He mentioned it in an interview or there was a post on it on TL. Not competing for that long would make him soo rusty and then when you consider how far the players would've come and the new metagame by then etc..
Guys, Innovation and sos on OGNstream!
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On June 09 2013 14:29 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:26 Dodgin wrote:On June 09 2013 14:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 14:23 SHODAN wrote:On June 09 2013 14:01 Entirety wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 Shock710 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote:
Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding. mvp is great and such a smart player, but not feeling the mouse is a bit over the top lol It's actually not over the top. Just yesterday in the OGN couch Mvp stated that when he's in the booth with the headset, he can't hear his clicks so he doesn't know if he's actually clicking... He can't feel his clicks, man. this is so sad. mvp, what a man unlike flash apparently his condition cannot be helped by surgery either. I don't think that's true, he just doesn't want to get the surgery because it means he would have to take a really long break from the game and he thinks he might as well retire if he can't compete for 6+ months. Mvp can indeed get surgery as noted by Dodgin, but I remember him indeed mentioning that the break is quite long (not sure how many months) since it's a neck disk problem. Also a neck disk problem might be something you'd be a little more nervous about than CTS. A little more sensitive an area. In all interviews, Mvp basically says that if he took such a break from progaming there'd be no way he'd recover. Though I disagree with the belief, it seems he's pretty set on this concept. Has there been any cases where a progamer has taken 6+ months off and come back to be really successful? Honest question, I don't follow a lot of players that closely.
Also, you need to be REALLY fucking sure the problem is with that particular disk. I can't even begin to count the amount of people who've had spine surgery and they fixed a disk, yet that wasn't the problem and their symptoms presisted.
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On June 09 2013 14:31 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:26 goody153 wrote:On June 09 2013 14:21 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 14:16 Bagration wrote:On June 09 2013 14:15 StarStruck wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 Daogin wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 StarStruck wrote:On June 09 2013 14:10 BigFan wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 mordk wrote:
MVP we still love you, and I hope Innovation loses again, just so he can be confirmed as the biggest loser ever now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL losing in two finals straight makes you the biggest loser ever? I'm confused. how big of a loser is MKP then Lol? I don't even consider MKP a loser. O.o He did win a few things back-to-back. albeit MLG. He is the 3rd most accomplished Terran of WOL after all Wait so you think the progression is Mvp, MMA, MKP? I don't think so. even though nobody asked if i ranked terran players from the top 1. flash 2. innovation 3.mvp or taeje reasons: flash has both insane micro and very brilliant in strategies innovation has well the best micro (i think) but not as good as flash .. because flash is flexible and better in tvt mvp has well insane decision making and is probably the most flexible of them all and does not crack under pressure even though he has bad micro .. idk about macro though and taeje is really good .. very flexible ranked based solely on WoL achievements, your top 2 don't have squat. As for right now I think that putting flash above INnoVation is pure fanboyism. Flash gets a lot of hype, but outside proleague he hasn't gone the distance yet. Proleague is SUCH a different tournament from individual tournaments that I think his stats there, while impressive, cause people to overestimate his ability.
Putting Flash above Innovation is as far-fetched as putting Innovation above Flash.
They're on the same level...it's really hard to argue otherwise unless you want to make the argument
"The results on WCS KR is what matters and everything else that happened doesnt matter"
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On June 09 2013 14:30 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:25 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 14:23 Bagration wrote:On June 09 2013 14:21 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 14:16 Bagration wrote:On June 09 2013 14:15 StarStruck wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 Daogin wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 StarStruck wrote:On June 09 2013 14:10 BigFan wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 mordk wrote:
MVP we still love you, and I hope Innovation loses again, just so he can be confirmed as the biggest loser ever now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL losing in two finals straight makes you the biggest loser ever? I'm confused. how big of a loser is MKP then Lol? I don't even consider MKP a loser. O.o He did win a few things back-to-back. albeit MLG. He is the 3rd most accomplished Terran of WOL after all Wait so you think the progression is Mvp, MMA, MKP? I don't think so. Don't get me wrong, MMA and MKP is close, but 2 GSL titles to 0, so I give the edge to MMA. No Taeja? No Polt? I would say that both of those guys enjoyed significantly more success than marineking over the course of WoL. MKP was definitely ahead in the early stages, but he fell off SO hard in 2012 that its not even funny. MKP had 3 GSL finals appearances. Taeja didn't even make the finals once. I think Taeja and Polt are the remaining top 5 of WoL but it goes for me: 1. Mvp 2. MMA 3. MKP 4. Polt 5. Taeja
It's always tough, but I think MKP just barely ranks MMA for number 2 (I hate MKP too) and Taeja gets #4 over Polt. They're not gsl champs but overall, they were more consistent and won a fair amount/had a lot of notable finishes.
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SC2 Quote of the Day @sc2quotes 3m
Interview with INoVatioN and sOs is coming up, followed by some fun with Day9, Apollo, Chobra and others http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl2 stream 2 guys
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Innovation is pre-Heat LeBron James until he wins a major title.
Major title = WCS Korea or a WCS Grand Slam.
Not even a MLG really counts anymore with the slashed prize pool and open bracket nature.
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Innovation - SOS interview
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fml, slept over my alarm clock that I set for the semis T.T
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sOs looks so giddy :D like a kid.
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