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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 09 2013 05:25 GMT
#4861
On June 09 2013 14:23 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:21 packrat386 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:16 Bagration wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:15 StarStruck wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:12 Daogin wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:12 StarStruck wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:10 BigFan wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:06 mordk wrote:
MVP we still love you, and I hope Innovation loses again, just so he can be confirmed as the biggest loser ever

now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL


losing in two finals straight makes you the biggest loser ever? I'm confused.

how big of a loser is MKP then Lol?


I don't even consider MKP a loser. O.o He did win a few things back-to-back. albeit MLG.


He is the 3rd most accomplished Terran of WOL after all


Wait so you think the progression is Mvp, MMA, MKP? I don't think so.


Don't get me wrong, MMA and MKP is close, but 2 GSL titles to 0, so I give the edge to MMA.


No Taeja? No Polt? I would say that both of those guys enjoyed significantly more success than marineking over the course of WoL. MKP was definitely ahead in the early stages, but he fell off SO hard in 2012 that its not even funny.
dreaming of a sunny day
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 09 2013 05:25 GMT
#4862
On June 09 2013 14:24 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:23 Laryleprakon wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:21 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:20 Namunelbo wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:11 Kommander wrote:
Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here?

Poor Bogus, can't get a break.
All the hard work as a progamer finally paying off just to have all the irrational hate unleashed on him because he beat their favorite.


Was there really that much hate? I just thought people were mad about hellbats


I would say a lot of the people who were cheering for Mvp will be cheering for Innovation in the finals. We haven't had many top terrans to cheer for the past 18 months.

Taeja?
Flash?
T_T...


Well I said not many!
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 05:27:05
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4863
On June 09 2013 14:25 Trizz wrote:
who the fuck holds the finale 2 hours after the semis, jesus christ what a disgrace.
Been announced since long ago. There's a schedule for each match. You could have been prepared.

Moreover, it's really good for the quality of play to let the players rest sometime after their tough semis.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4864
On June 09 2013 14:25 Trizz wrote:
who the fuck holds the finale 2 hours after the semis, jesus christ what a disgrace.

Yea!
We should totally deprieve the players of a lunch and break for our enjoyment.
Wtf were those organizers thinking!?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4865
On June 09 2013 14:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:23 SHODAN wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:01 Entirety wrote:
On June 09 2013 13:59 Shock710 wrote:
On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote:
Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding.

mvp is great and such a smart player, but not feeling the mouse is a bit over the top lol


It's actually not over the top. Just yesterday in the OGN couch Mvp stated that when he's in the booth with the headset, he can't hear his clicks so he doesn't know if he's actually clicking...

He can't feel his clicks, man.


this is so sad. mvp, what a man


unlike flash apparently his condition cannot be helped by surgery either.


I don't think that's true, he just doesn't want to get the surgery because it means he would have to take a really long break from the game and he thinks he might as well retire if he can't compete for 6+ months.
JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4866
On June 09 2013 14:23 LighT. wrote:
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On June 09 2013 14:22 zodde wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:20 JP Dayne wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:17 EFermi wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:06 Evangelist wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:
On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist


You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series.


You mean when kespa were still playing bw


You are disgusting...


Nah he's just embarassed that his Kespa hero struggled like mad to make it past a guy with RSI so bad he can't feel his mouse hand clicking.

I'd be embarassed too. This is coming from a guy who actually welcomed Kespa into the scene but gravely dislikes the BW fanbois and retarded elephant bs. Mvp is still the best terran player in the world. Nothing I saw in that series dissuades me from that.


http://i.imgur.com/GFmrY.jpg

I think this guy can dissuade you.



is the flash=god thing still a thing?


That's a universal truth, not "a thing".

This man knows what he's talking about and we should discuss the fine universal truths over a beer.


well I was just curious, because, you know, of results
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4867
I'm rooting for a INnoVation 3-0 into a sOs 4-3 following by STX coach sending drones on Woongjin Stars house.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4868
On June 09 2013 14:25 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:23 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:21 Bagration wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:19 Fionn wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:16 Fionn wrote:
[image loading]

Time to kill Innovation and win his 4th major title.


is this still funny?


I'm not trying to be funny.

Ryu Won wins championships.


Are you saying MMA and Soulkey wouldn't have won anything without Ryu? He's good, but give credit to the champions

I doubt MMA would win vs Mvp at Blizzcon if he didn't have Ryu Won. Soulkey could probably have won without him.


Just like Coach Park should be given credit for everything EG achieves :V


don't people shit on him when EGTL loses in PL?

coach park deserves more.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4869
On June 09 2013 14:18 DustbinBieber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:07 Canucklehead wrote:
So sad for mvp. He totally outplayed innovation that series except in one key area...hellbats! I don't know why mvp went widow mine builds game 4 and 5 cause hellbats > mines! At least mvp proved he could go toe to toe with innovation and rightfully should have won if not for freaking hellbats.


I'm a big MVP fan and this series didn't boil down to hellbats but to a well-deserved win. It's quite amazing that it went all the way to the final game considering how much of a beast Bogus has been lately. MVP really is an incredible player.


How can you say that? Games 4 and 5 definitely boiled down to hellbats. MVP played the wrong builds against hellbat drops and paid for it. The widow mine opening is weak against it and was sad to see him go for it game 5 after it failing him in game 4.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4870
On June 09 2013 14:22 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:20 Namunelbo wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:11 Kommander wrote:
Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here?

Poor Bogus, can't get a break.
All the hard work as a progamer finally paying off just to have all the irrational hate unleashed on him because he beat their favorite.

Just a lot of butthurt, with Mvp it's exaggerated because of his even larger fan base


I honestly don't see that much Innovation hate. Kid's legit, no reason to flame him.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4871
On June 09 2013 14:24 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:23 Laryleprakon wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:21 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:20 Namunelbo wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:11 Kommander wrote:
Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here?

Poor Bogus, can't get a break.
All the hard work as a progamer finally paying off just to have all the irrational hate unleashed on him because he beat their favorite.


Was there really that much hate? I just thought people were mad about hellbats


I would say a lot of the people who were cheering for Mvp will be cheering for Innovation in the finals. We haven't had many top terrans to cheer for the past 18 months.

Taeja?
Flash?
T_T...


Flash isn't really there yet man in terms of individual leagues. Sure is beasting in PL though.
Prince_Stranger
Profile Joined November 2010
Kazakhstan762 Posts
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4872
On June 09 2013 14:25 Fionn wrote:
Soulkey probably would have a won a title. MMA at Blizzcon? Probably not. He won that series through build orders.


through his mind (like MVP)
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4873
On June 09 2013 14:23 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:21 Bagration wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:19 Fionn wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:16 Fionn wrote:
[image loading]

Time to kill Innovation and win his 4th major title.


is this still funny?


I'm not trying to be funny.

Ryu Won wins championships.


Are you saying MMA and Soulkey wouldn't have won anything without Ryu? He's good, but give credit to the champions

I doubt MMA would win vs Mvp at Blizzcon if he didn't have Ryu Won. Soulkey could probably have won without him.


I don't know, GSL October finals were pretty one sided in MMA's favor. I'd say practicing with guys like Ryung had just as much impact. Either way, a coach can help with strategy but the player has to go into the booth and execute.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44303 Posts
June 09 2013 05:26 GMT
#4874
On June 09 2013 14:21 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:16 Bagration wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:15 StarStruck wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:12 Daogin wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:12 StarStruck wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:10 BigFan wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:06 mordk wrote:
MVP we still love you, and I hope Innovation loses again, just so he can be confirmed as the biggest loser ever

now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL


losing in two finals straight makes you the biggest loser ever? I'm confused.

how big of a loser is MKP then Lol?


I don't even consider MKP a loser. O.o He did win a few things back-to-back. albeit MLG.


He is the 3rd most accomplished Terran of WOL after all


Wait so you think the progression is Mvp, MMA, MKP? I don't think so.

even though nobody asked

if i ranked terran players from the top

1. flash
2. innovation
3.mvp or taeje

reasons:

flash has both insane micro and very brilliant in strategies
innovation has well the best micro (i think) but not as good as flash .. because flash is flexible and better in tvt
mvp has well insane decision making and is probably the most flexible of them all and does not crack under pressure even though he has bad micro .. idk about macro though

and taeje is really good .. very flexible
this is a quote
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
June 09 2013 05:27 GMT
#4875
they're doing talkshow/showmatch looks like during the break. it would be pretty lame if they said "brb 2 hours" with all the crowd there rofl
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3823 Posts
June 09 2013 05:27 GMT
#4876
On June 09 2013 14:17 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:16 Louuster wrote:
So yesterday they play all the games back to back and people complain that the schedule means nothing. Today they stick to the schedule and people complain that theres a long break. lol...

What are we?!
"ESPORTS FANS!"
What do we want!?
"WE DONT KNOW!"
When do we want it!?
"NOW!"

It's almost as if there are multiple people posting their different opinions!!!! Amazing, I know.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
June 09 2013 05:27 GMT
#4877
On June 09 2013 14:25 Trizz wrote:
who the fuck holds the finale 2 hours after the semis, jesus christ what a disgrace.


Exactly my point, they should be in a week from now.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
June 09 2013 05:27 GMT
#4878
On June 09 2013 14:25 Trizz wrote:
who the fuck holds the finale 2 hours after the semis, jesus christ what a disgrace.



They wanted the finals to be at a set time not dependant on when the semis ended. For TV and live audience etc. So they left plenty of time as a buffer for long games, delays etc.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 09 2013 05:27 GMT
#4879
On June 09 2013 14:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:25 StarStruck wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:23 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:21 Bagration wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:19 Fionn wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:16 Fionn wrote:
[image loading]

Time to kill Innovation and win his 4th major title.


is this still funny?


I'm not trying to be funny.

Ryu Won wins championships.


Are you saying MMA and Soulkey wouldn't have won anything without Ryu? He's good, but give credit to the champions

I doubt MMA would win vs Mvp at Blizzcon if he didn't have Ryu Won. Soulkey could probably have won without him.


Just like Coach Park should be given credit for everything EG achieves :V


don't people shit on him when EGTL loses in PL?

coach park deserves more.


look what they did to TrOt (other coach Park). Need I say more. Fanatics are the worst.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
June 09 2013 05:27 GMT
#4880
On June 09 2013 14:26 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:23 SHODAN wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:01 Entirety wrote:
On June 09 2013 13:59 Shock710 wrote:
On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote:
Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding.

mvp is great and such a smart player, but not feeling the mouse is a bit over the top lol


It's actually not over the top. Just yesterday in the OGN couch Mvp stated that when he's in the booth with the headset, he can't hear his clicks so he doesn't know if he's actually clicking...

He can't feel his clicks, man.


this is so sad. mvp, what a man


unlike flash apparently his condition cannot be helped by surgery either.


I don't think that's true, he just doesn't want to get the surgery because it means he would have to take a really long break from the game and he thinks he might as well retire if he can't compete for 6+ months.


its what I've been told.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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