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so in TvT, the only viable opening is hellbat drop???? 4 out of 5 games today
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On June 09 2013 14:11 Kommander wrote:
Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here?
Poor Bogus, can't get a break.
All the hard work as a progamer finally paying off just to have all the irrational hate unleashed on him because he beat their favorite.
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On June 09 2013 14:18 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:09 Marchinko wrote:On June 09 2013 14:04 Killmouse wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Marchinko wrote:
From 8 Zerg in thr RO16, to Zero Zerg in the final. Happy a Protoss is in the final though. Bogus dbl final got to tell you something about his level of skill. zergs always find a way to whine Not whining, just pointing the numbers. Most of the Zerg in RO16 wasnt good enough in anycase. Yeah, these are the numbers and here are some comments: 3 of the zergs where foreigner, so they basically should not count. You want a perfect 3/3/2 split in ro8. Notice that if one of the zergies fails then suddenly it turns into a 4/2/2 "OMG T Imba"! And this is what happened - Symbol failed, ForGG moved into Ro8 and suddenly we had the "OMG imba half of the guys are T" playerpool. Notice that same thing happened in Code S, only with 4 zergs in the Ro8. Then we had a bracket of mirrors and then a very close series between sOs and Soulkey.
with Innovation loosing
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On June 09 2013 14:20 JP Dayne wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:17 EFermi wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 Evangelist wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting... Nah he's just embarassed that his Kespa hero struggled like mad to make it past a guy with RSI so bad he can't feel his mouse hand clicking. I'd be embarassed too. This is coming from a guy who actually welcomed Kespa into the scene but gravely dislikes the BW fanbois and retarded elephant bs. Mvp is still the best terran player in the world. Nothing I saw in that series dissuades me from that. http://i.imgur.com/GFmrY.jpgI think this guy can dissuade you. is the flash=god thing still a thing?
It will always be a thing.
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On June 09 2013 14:12 Zinthar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:05 Maski wrote:
At first when INnoVation got hyped so much I thought it was kinda funny, but did not pay that much attention to it. Then, when he started owning everyone on his road to the GSL finals I was just amazed by his play and his awesome mechanics. I really wanted him to win the GSL and seeing him go down to Soulkey really hurt. I was really afraid he might be so affected by the loss that he would drop off, but he has proven me wrong. Going to the finals after losing one just the week before in an embarassing fashion is just an amazing accomplishment. He has however shown that he is mortal and has problem dealing with high pressure. But this makes him even more awesome imo. Definitively became a fan over the past days!!! Innovation's mechanics are incredibly impressive -- perhaps the best in the world in that aspect. That said, it really looked like Mvp had his number in the games that went past hellbat drops. A lot of his play seems to rely upon doing critical damage with his drops; in game 7 vs. SoulKey that mentality really back-fired on him.
Not true. For instance game one where Bogus kept getting the better engagements and once he had that lead he didn't give it up.
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On June 09 2013 14:18 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 14:16 Fionn wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PnJRy.jpg) Time to kill Innovation and win his 4th major title. is this still funny? yes
fun fact: Ryu Won may not even coach WJS by now as hes never to be spotted in SPL/today crowd. The head coach has always been that curly hair mafia old man in a suit.
and that joke aint funny
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On June 09 2013 14:19 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:08 Caihead wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 Evangelist wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting... Nah he's just embarassed that his Kespa hero struggled like mad to make it past a guy with RSI so bad he can't feel his mouse hand clicking. I'd be embarassed too. This is coming from a guy who actually welcomed Kespa into the scene but gravely dislikes the BW fanbois and retarded elephant bs. Mvp is still the best terran player in the world. Nothing I saw in that series dissuades me from that. You know... Flash's delayed his surgery while still playing in the OSL and only went to surgery because he lost in the Ro8. He had less than a few months to start playing again once the next season started and pushed to the OSL Ro4 vs Fantasy again. Hydra plays with 1 eye. Hoejja and other players are lefties.Don't pretend only MVP has it hard. HOLY SHIT NOT LEFTIES!! OMG I'M SO SORRY FOR THEM lol
Being left-handed is actually a handicap for lots of different mechanical reasons, keyboard design mostly.
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On June 09 2013 14:17 XiaoJoyce- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:16 edgeOut wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting... He was telling a truthful fact, and you are doing personal attack. You should read all of Terapika post in this live thread, then maybe you won't type this
Why bother? I don't care about his intention, he's not wrong with that single statement, and personal attack is definitely worse than telling a truthful statement.
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On June 09 2013 14:19 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:12 ShowTheLights wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 Rad wrote:On June 09 2013 14:09 ShowTheLights wrote:On June 09 2013 14:08 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 quirinus wrote:On June 09 2013 14:05 ShowTheLights wrote:
wait the final is in TWO hours?! can somebody confirm this for me? Yea, says 16:00 KST on GOM stream. That's in 1:55 hours... wtf... Seriously??? That's fuckng lame I realllyy wanted to watch these finals live but guess I won't be able too T.T Why such a long break inbetween?? yeah this was dissapointing WCS final vods will be FREE right? They changed this? Not just for Day 1? I can watch this later? I doubt the vods will be free right away. I heard they were to be posted next weekend for free at the wcs portal. In the meantime, you can pay gom $15 or ogn $5 if you want to watch it tomorrow. =/ If they did change something, I want my refund >.> I swear I saw a reddit post or teamliquid post that said the VODs would be free, did I just actually dream this? ogn vods are free in 480p, gom ones are still not I believe.
Here you go : http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/catch-vods-of-the-wcs-season-1-finals-through-ongamenet
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On June 09 2013 14:17 EFermi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:06 Evangelist wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting... Nah he's just embarassed that his Kespa hero struggled like mad to make it past a guy with RSI so bad he can't feel his mouse hand clicking. I'd be embarassed too. This is coming from a guy who actually welcomed Kespa into the scene but gravely dislikes the BW fanbois and retarded elephant bs. Mvp is still the best terran player in the world. Nothing I saw in that series dissuades me from that. http://i.imgur.com/GFmrY.jpgI think this guy can dissuade you.
Where is that guy? He wasn't in this tournament was he? :o Maybe I just missed him, need to check the vods later.
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On June 09 2013 14:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:18 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 14:16 edgeOut wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting... He was telling a truthful fact, and you are doing personal attack. read the entire conversation....its disrespectful. Read the moment Terapika typed Innovation 3-0 incoming
hes a troll yes, but I guess its too much to assume that its possible for others to troll like I do.
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On June 09 2013 14:20 Namunelbo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:11 Kommander wrote:
Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here? Poor Bogus, can't get a break. All the hard work as a progamer finally paying off just to have all the irrational hate unleashed on him because he beat their favorite.
Was there really that much hate? I just thought people were mad about hellbats
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On June 09 2013 14:19 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 14:16 Fionn wrote:Time to kill Innovation and win his 4th major title. is this still funny? I'm not trying to be funny. Ryu Won wins championships.
Are you saying MMA and Soulkey wouldn't have won anything without Ryu? He's good, but give credit to the champions
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On June 09 2013 14:16 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:15 StarStruck wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 Daogin wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 StarStruck wrote:On June 09 2013 14:10 BigFan wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 mordk wrote:
MVP we still love you, and I hope Innovation loses again, just so he can be confirmed as the biggest loser ever now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL  losing in two finals straight makes you the biggest loser ever? I'm confused. how big of a loser is MKP then Lol? I don't even consider MKP a loser. O.o He did win a few things back-to-back. albeit MLG. He is the 3rd most accomplished Terran of WOL after all
Wait so you think the progression is Mvp, MMA, MKP? I don't think so.
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On June 09 2013 14:16 stuchiu wrote:
sOs probably going to win. Ryu Won is backing sOs and Last is backing Innovation.
I really hope so :D sOs fighting !
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On June 09 2013 14:20 JP Dayne wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:17 EFermi wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 Evangelist wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote:
i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting... Nah he's just embarassed that his Kespa hero struggled like mad to make it past a guy with RSI so bad he can't feel his mouse hand clicking. I'd be embarassed too. This is coming from a guy who actually welcomed Kespa into the scene but gravely dislikes the BW fanbois and retarded elephant bs. Mvp is still the best terran player in the world. Nothing I saw in that series dissuades me from that. http://i.imgur.com/GFmrY.jpgI think this guy can dissuade you. is the flash=god thing still a thing?
That's a universal truth, not "a thing".
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On June 09 2013 14:16 Fionn wrote:Time to kill Innovation and win his 4th major title.
Lol he's too good. Lifeblood of Slayers.
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On June 09 2013 14:20 Namunelbo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:11 Kommander wrote:
Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here? Poor Bogus, can't get a break. All the hard work as a progamer finally paying off just to have all the irrational hate unleashed on him because he beat their favorite.
Just a lot of butthurt, with Mvp it's exaggerated because of his even larger fan base
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On June 09 2013 14:19 Evangelist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:12 Zinthar wrote:On June 09 2013 14:05 Maski wrote:
At first when INnoVation got hyped so much I thought it was kinda funny, but did not pay that much attention to it. Then, when he started owning everyone on his road to the GSL finals I was just amazed by his play and his awesome mechanics. I really wanted him to win the GSL and seeing him go down to Soulkey really hurt. I was really afraid he might be so affected by the loss that he would drop off, but he has proven me wrong. Going to the finals after losing one just the week before in an embarassing fashion is just an amazing accomplishment. He has however shown that he is mortal and has problem dealing with high pressure. But this makes him even more awesome imo. Definitively became a fan over the past days!!! Innovation's mechanics are incredibly impressive -- perhaps the best in the world in that aspect. That said, it really looked like Mvp had his number in the games that went past hellbat drops. A lot of his play seems to rely upon doing critical damage with his drops; in game 7 vs. SoulKey that mentality really back-fired on him. He reminds me a lot of Taeja. I remember when Taeja was that best in the world mechanically amazing timing incredible damage terran who couldn't lose an engagement and he couldn't put a foot wrong. Then he played Rain who sat back and just chain stormed him every time he went up a ramp and then storm dropped his bases and Taeja looked completely stumped. Taeja was so much better than Rain and on paper should have dominated him if you looked at it purely from "mechanics" (an overused term) but ultimately there's a reason this is called a strategy game  I reckon Flash will be watching those Mvp games very closely. The telling thing is that Innovation looked relieved that it was over whereas Mvp had what I like to call the Man United Mentality - I lost this one, but I'll be back here again and you won't have the advantage next time.
Excellent points. Mvp definitely did look like that after G5. Something I recall from an earlier GSL when MarineKing was talking about Mvp and MKP said that he admired Mvp's "mental strength."
He'll be back.
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On June 09 2013 14:21 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:16 Bagration wrote:On June 09 2013 14:15 StarStruck wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 Daogin wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 StarStruck wrote:On June 09 2013 14:10 BigFan wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 mordk wrote:
MVP we still love you, and I hope Innovation loses again, just so he can be confirmed as the biggest loser ever now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL losing in two finals straight makes you the biggest loser ever? I'm confused. how big of a loser is MKP then Lol? I don't even consider MKP a loser. O.o He did win a few things back-to-back. albeit MLG. He is the 3rd most accomplished Terran of WOL after all Wait so you think the progression is Mvp, MMA, MKP? I don't think so.
Don't get me wrong, MMA and MKP is close, but 2 GSL titles to 0, so I give the edge to MMA.
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