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On June 09 2013 14:21 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:19 Fionn wrote:On June 09 2013 14:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 14:16 Fionn wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PnJRy.jpg) Time to kill Innovation and win his 4th major title. is this still funny? I'm not trying to be funny. Ryu Won wins championships. Are you saying MMA and Soulkey wouldn't have won anything without Ryu? He's good, but give credit to the champions I doubt MMA would win vs Mvp at Blizzcon if he didn't have Ryu Won. Soulkey could probably have won without him.
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On June 09 2013 14:21 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:20 Namunelbo wrote:On June 09 2013 14:11 Kommander wrote: Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here? Poor Bogus, can't get a break. All the hard work as a progamer finally paying off just to have all the irrational hate unleashed on him because he beat their favorite. Was there really that much hate? I just thought people were mad about hellbats
I would say a lot of the people who were cheering for Mvp will be cheering for Innovation in the finals. We haven't had many top terrans to cheer for the past 18 months.
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On June 09 2013 14:01 Entirety wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 13:59 Shock710 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote: Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding. mvp is great and such a smart player, but not feeling the mouse is a bit over the top lol It's actually not over the top. Just yesterday in the OGN couch Mvp stated that when he's in the booth with the headset, he can't hear his clicks so he doesn't know if he's actually clicking... He can't feel his clicks, man.
this is so sad. mvp, what a man
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On June 09 2013 14:11 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:07 KelsierSC wrote:On June 09 2013 14:02 1Dhalism wrote:
people seemed to forget that the twat who introduced the elephant theory didnt write the obvious "given enough time really talented BW players will be really good at SC2." He wrote "SC2 players are shit." It's very offensive. Yeh I don't think he directly said that, but it was a horribly written offensive article that was very selective with the evidence and was based on ignorance of the brood war scene MC was thrown into PL games early because he had amazing potential Fruit dealer was getting PL time and was a really good BW player let's just never bring up that article again and hopefully in a few years people will create threads wondering where the term "elephant" came from I think the article was quite well written. You might disagree with the argument that it lays out (I do too) but the article itself was a good piece of writing. I also have no idea why people find it offensive, basically everything he said about peoples past and motivations were true, its just the predictions that are still in question. That single piece of writing created this whole eSF vs Kespa bullshit. What instead was a ton of "new" people joining sc2 and climbing their way to the top turned into a cockfight without believe. If there is one thing i hate on this whole site its that dammed article.
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On June 09 2013 14:22 zodde wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:20 JP Dayne wrote:On June 09 2013 14:17 EFermi wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 Evangelist wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote: i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting... Nah he's just embarassed that his Kespa hero struggled like mad to make it past a guy with RSI so bad he can't feel his mouse hand clicking. I'd be embarassed too. This is coming from a guy who actually welcomed Kespa into the scene but gravely dislikes the BW fanbois and retarded elephant bs. Mvp is still the best terran player in the world. Nothing I saw in that series dissuades me from that. http://i.imgur.com/GFmrY.jpgI think this guy can dissuade you. is the flash=god thing still a thing? That's a universal truth, not "a thing". This man knows what he's talking about and we should discuss the fine universal truths over a beer.
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On June 09 2013 14:19 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:12 ShowTheLights wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 Rad wrote:On June 09 2013 14:09 ShowTheLights wrote:On June 09 2013 14:08 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 quirinus wrote:On June 09 2013 14:05 ShowTheLights wrote: wait the final is in TWO hours?! can somebody confirm this for me? Yea, says 16:00 KST on GOM stream. That's in 1:55 hours... wtf... Seriously??? That's fuckng lame I realllyy wanted to watch these finals live but guess I won't be able too T.T Why such a long break inbetween?? yeah this was dissapointing WCS final vods will be FREE right? They changed this? Not just for Day 1? I can watch this later? I doubt the vods will be free right away. I heard they were to be posted next weekend for free at the wcs portal. In the meantime, you can pay gom $15 or ogn $5 if you want to watch it tomorrow. =/ If they did change something, I want my refund >.> I swear I saw a reddit post or teamliquid post that said the VODs would be free, did I just actually dream this? ogn vods are free in 480p, gom ones are still not I believe.
sc2links have gom vods
http://sc2links.com/tournament.php?tournament=WCS Season 1 Finals 2013
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On June 09 2013 14:18 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:16 stuchiu wrote: sOs probably going to win. Ryu Won is backing sOs and Last is backing Innovation. Oh dear god... I just realized now.. in WCS KR Finals, Innovation pulled off a Last... Still remember those 3-0 leads vs Rain and MC only to lose. Wow I didn't even think about that. If it happens again, I think we can safely call getting reverse swept "pulling an STX terran".
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I'm sad there's no 3rd place match after MVP's talk of wanting to play Soulkey ;;
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On June 09 2013 14:22 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:20 Namunelbo wrote:On June 09 2013 14:11 Kommander wrote: Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here? Poor Bogus, can't get a break. All the hard work as a progamer finally paying off just to have all the irrational hate unleashed on him because he beat their favorite. Just a lot of butthurt, with Mvp it's exaggerated because of his even larger fan base
Oh man those tears. So delicious.
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On June 09 2013 14:23 Laryleprakon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:21 KelsierSC wrote:On June 09 2013 14:20 Namunelbo wrote:On June 09 2013 14:11 Kommander wrote: Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here? Poor Bogus, can't get a break. All the hard work as a progamer finally paying off just to have all the irrational hate unleashed on him because he beat their favorite. Was there really that much hate? I just thought people were mad about hellbats I would say a lot of the people who were cheering for Mvp will be cheering for Innovation in the finals. We haven't had many top terrans to cheer for the past 18 months. Taeja? Flash? T_T...
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On June 09 2013 14:11 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:07 Canucklehead wrote: So sad for mvp. He totally outplayed innovation that series except in one key area...hellbats! I don't know why mvp went widow mine builds game 4 and 5 cause hellbats > mines! At least mvp proved he could go toe to toe with innovation and rightfully should have won if not for freaking hellbats. yeah he was outplaying innovation TBH  .. but its not suprising mvp lost im also not disappointed .. innovation is a good player and has epic micro .. i just didnt think mvp is this good even with bad mechanics due to health issues .. i didnt expect innovation to have a very hard time despite that
If Mvp wouldn't have rallied worker mobs into hellbat sprays in 2 games he would be in the finals most likely. But I gotta say the 4 Hellbat drop at the end was quiet awesome with 2 hellbats camping the ramp from Innovation. Shows that Innovation seems to predict where you pull your workers and tries to have Hellbats there, which is quiet scary.
And the Mines are basically guaranteed damage and a bit cheaper then getting Hellbats, which allows you to make sure you get the turrets up in time for the hellbats, which guarantees you medivac kills or no damage to your workers if you pull in time.
I like the Mvp opening, though I keep the Mines at home for the earlier Hellbat timings and get a Techlab on the Factory for some mind games.
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On June 09 2013 14:19 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 14:16 Fionn wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PnJRy.jpg) Time to kill Innovation and win his 4th major title. is this still funny? I'm not trying to be funny. Ryu Won wins championships.
this kinda like stork and his glasses thing right?
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On June 09 2013 14:21 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:19 Fionn wrote:On June 09 2013 14:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 14:16 Fionn wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PnJRy.jpg) Time to kill Innovation and win his 4th major title. is this still funny? I'm not trying to be funny. Ryu Won wins championships. Are you saying MMA and Soulkey wouldn't have won anything without Ryu? He's good, but give credit to the champions MMA probably not. He'd have been a great player, but imo not one who wins in GSL finals
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On June 09 2013 14:21 edgeOut wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:17 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On June 09 2013 14:16 edgeOut wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 Wildmoon wrote:On June 09 2013 14:03 terapika wrote:On June 09 2013 14:00 packrat386 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 terapika wrote: i hope u guys didn't really think a code B could take out a code s finalist You came to the wrong neighborhood dude. mvp has won more SC2 tournaments than bogus has even played in to this point. Anyone who had any idea what was going on knew that this was going to be a really close series. You mean when kespa were still playing bw You are disgusting... He was telling a truthful fact, and you are doing personal attack. You should read all of Terapika post in this live thread, then maybe you won't type this Why bother? I don't care about his intention, he's not wrong with that single statement, and personal attack is definitely worse than telling a truthful statement.
Yeah, insulting Mvp is cleary not wrong.
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who the fuck holds the finale 2 hours after the semis, jesus christ what a disgrace.
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On June 09 2013 14:14 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:14 LighT. wrote:On June 09 2013 14:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 14:12 StarStruck wrote:On June 09 2013 14:10 BigFan wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 mordk wrote: MVP we still love you, and I hope Innovation loses again, just so he can be confirmed as the biggest loser ever now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL  losing in two finals straight makes you the biggest loser ever? I'm confused. it makes you a kong. But they all win eventually.. Just look at Fanta/Stork and MKP  Fanta / Stork / Jangbi... Only against each other! Mathematical logic loophole made them win, not skill  Lol! I didn't really make that connection (they all beat each other), but Fantasy and Jangbi's wins were really strong. They never seemed as 'Kong' as Yellow ever did.
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On June 09 2013 14:23 SHODAN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:01 Entirety wrote:On June 09 2013 13:59 Shock710 wrote:On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote: Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding. mvp is great and such a smart player, but not feeling the mouse is a bit over the top lol It's actually not over the top. Just yesterday in the OGN couch Mvp stated that when he's in the booth with the headset, he can't hear his clicks so he doesn't know if he's actually clicking... He can't feel his clicks, man. this is so sad. mvp, what a man
unlike flash apparently his condition cannot be helped by surgery either.
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On June 09 2013 14:23 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:21 Bagration wrote:On June 09 2013 14:19 Fionn wrote:On June 09 2013 14:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:On June 09 2013 14:16 Fionn wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PnJRy.jpg) Time to kill Innovation and win his 4th major title. is this still funny? I'm not trying to be funny. Ryu Won wins championships. Are you saying MMA and Soulkey wouldn't have won anything without Ryu? He's good, but give credit to the champions I doubt MMA would win vs Mvp at Blizzcon if he didn't have Ryu Won. Soulkey could probably have won without him.
Just like Coach Park should be given credit for everything EG achieves :V
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Soulkey probably would have a won a title. MMA at Blizzcon? Probably not. He won that series through build orders.
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On June 09 2013 14:23 Laryleprakon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:21 KelsierSC wrote:On June 09 2013 14:20 Namunelbo wrote:On June 09 2013 14:11 Kommander wrote: Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here? Poor Bogus, can't get a break. All the hard work as a progamer finally paying off just to have all the irrational hate unleashed on him because he beat their favorite. Was there really that much hate? I just thought people were mad about hellbats I would say a lot of the people who were cheering for Mvp will be cheering for Innovation in the finals. We haven't had many top terrans to cheer for the past 18 months.
You have got to be kidding me.
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