The standard MLG procedure. If anything strays even slightly away from their plan they simply bury their heads in the sand and hope it'll go away/resolve itself/have someone else completely independent from MLG solve it.

This is why you're 3rd MLG! >.<

Considering we might not even see SC2 at Anaheim in a couple weeks due to MLG trying to save a few bucks on qualifiers . . . . I'd say MLG is ranked 0th at this point, rather than 3rd. And yes, I had to invent the term "0th" in order to accommodate how horrible they've been to SC2 lately.

StreaK

Canada580 Posts

May 31 2013 00:09 GMT

#247

good try major!

miked4o7

United States33 Posts

May 31 2013 00:09 GMT

#248

On May 31 2013 08:53 Bagration wrote:

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On May 31 2013 08:49 miked4o7 wrote:

On May 31 2013 08:43 Bagration wrote:

On May 31 2013 08:40 miked4o7 wrote:

On May 31 2013 08:37 Bagration wrote:

On May 31 2013 08:36 SniXSniPe wrote:

On May 31 2013 08:35 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:

On May 31 2013 08:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:

On May 31 2013 08:15 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:

On May 31 2013 07:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
omg they trolled us with the schedule. I'm not reordering the op

Sen got forfeit loss for not showing up on time

Michael McClelland ‏@ROOTheognis 35m

@LzGaMeR I think they are waiting until the end of tonights broadcast before giving the w.o

Theognis said he hasnt gotten a walkover yet. Are you sure it's official?

It's up to theognis apparently

Hahaha. Leaving it to the player to decide. That's always been such a bullshit call.

Yeah, I agree there. MLG needs to take charge here, rather put the pressure on the players. Oh well

I don't think it's that bad of a thing to do. It's in the best interest of the viewers to have the game played, but it's not fair to a player to make them wait forever for it if that player showed up at the right time and the other didn't. This is the only fair way to have a shot at the game being played still without asking anything unreasonable of theognis

Well, that's what an admin is for. Having the opposing player decide is bad because it is a huge conflict of interest.

I don't know... it doesn't seem that bad to me. Especially since there could be two very different cases depending on theognis' personal schedule. If theognis was like "I have all night free, as long as he shows up before the end of the broadcast I wouldn't mind playing", then possibly getting that game for us to watch would still have been nice. On the other hand if theognis was like "I'm sorry, but the match was scheduled for ~7, and I have to be somewhere at 9, so I need to take the forfeit", then that's the way it would be.

I think that would be preferable to a strict rule where MLG disqualifies Sen 15 minutes after the scheduled time *if* we could have had a chance at actually seeing the game later in the night as long as it didn't conflict with theongis' schedule.

The idea behind conflict of interest is to prevent people who stand to gain or lose from a decision from making said decision, since there is a huge potential for bias. Sometimes having a conflict of interest can even be illegal in severe cases.

Now of course, our situation is much less severe, but it would be unprofessional for the players to decide whether their opponent is DQ'ed. These situations are why we have admins, so that we could have an official making decisions who don't have any conflicts of interest.

Yes, but the conflict of interest in this case doesn't affect anything in his favor. In his favor, he can just take the forfeit, which would be the default ruling if following strict guidelines. He'd be acting against his own interests to agree to play the game later in the night, so I don't think the 'conflict of interest' is a problem really in this case.

Shellshock

United States97274 Posts

May 31 2013 00:10 GMT

#249

I wonder why viOLet never gets any playing time in GSTL. has he really fallen to 3rd string for AZUBU's zerg roster? He looked fine that game

Insoleet

France1806 Posts

May 31 2013 00:10 GMT

#250

What a campy style.

Major play was terrible. He should have out-macroed violet while starting to slowly build ravens.

Violet just outplayed him, when Major realize he needs tanks, its too late and violets have BL... lol

DiLiGu

United States185 Posts

May 31 2013 00:11 GMT

#251

Ah, the high quality Twitch always delivers- stuttering, choppy video even at 480 or 360. As an added bonus, occasional huge pauses of 10-15 seconds at least three times every ten minutes. Does anyone know if this is available on Azubu?

Shellshock

United States97274 Posts

May 31 2013 00:11 GMT

#252

violet dropped game being remade

forsooth

United States3648 Posts

May 31 2013 00:11 GMT

#253

On May 31 2013 09:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder why viOLet never gets any playing time in GSTL. has he really fallen to 3rd string for AZUBU's zerg roster? He looked fine that game

He looked good because Major insisted on suiciding a dozen dropships instead of pulling back to his 4 bases and transitioning into air.

Shellshock

United States97274 Posts

May 31 2013 00:12 GMT

#254

On May 31 2013 09:11 forsooth wrote:

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He looked good because Major insisted on suiciding a dozen dropships instead of pulling back to his 4 bases and transitioning into air.

True. I suppose BBoongBBoong does occasionally look good and it seems AZUBU favors him over viOLet

Bagration

United States18282 Posts

May 31 2013 00:12 GMT

#255

On May 31 2013 09:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder why viOLet never gets any playing time in GSTL. has he really fallen to 3rd string for AZUBU's zerg roster? He looked fine that game

Well it's only a Bo7 and they have Symbol, so there isn't much room for more Zergs. Maybe B4 or Sleep practice more exclusively for GSTL since they have less individual tournaments.

DiLiGu

United States185 Posts

May 31 2013 00:12 GMT

#256

On May 31 2013 09:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder why viOLet never gets any playing time in GSTL. has he really fallen to 3rd string for AZUBU's zerg roster? He looked fine that game

Dude I was just wondering this! viOlet won an MLG, among other things, and has an incredible ZvZ. Why don't we ever see him play in GSTL?

StaplerPhone

United States813 Posts

May 31 2013 00:13 GMT

#257

Violet just completely denied drop play with so many spores d:

Gonff

United States686 Posts

May 31 2013 00:18 GMT

#258

Ugh. So much downtime today...

Greendotz

United Kingdom2053 Posts

May 31 2013 00:18 GMT

#259

On May 31 2013 09:08 SCST wrote:

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Can't disagree with that. If MLG did fail at least WCS would be passed on to NASL guys who would give a much better crack at it (can't say for sure they'd make it work, but I'm 100% sure they'd do better than MLG). Would also be poetic karma for the snide comments Sundance made when IPL officially announced it's failure. Of course I don't actually want MLG to fail, as that's not good for anyone, still, I'd really love to know what shady little back handed deal Sundance made in order to convince Blizzard to let them run WCS. An offer the couldn't refuse? (or keep?)

DiLiGu

United States185 Posts

May 31 2013 00:19 GMT

#260

On May 31 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:

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Well it's only a Bo7 and they have Symbol, so there isn't much room for more Zergs. Maybe B4 or Sleep practice more exclusively for GSTL since they have less individual tournaments.

I do not honestly believe that B4 is better than viOlet. However, viOlet is living in America right? Could have a lot to do with it.