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[WCS AM] RO16 Day 2 Challenger Season 1 2013 - Page 13

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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 31 2013 00:07 GMT
#241
i think violet studied major lol.
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
May 31 2013 00:07 GMT
#242
Violet sooo solid
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 31 2013 00:08 GMT
#243
LOL, just checked Sen's twitter :

Yang Sen Chia Cheng is a 24 old Taiwanese Zerg player and former BW pro that is currently a member of Fnatic.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
May 31 2013 00:08 GMT
#244
I wonder what the resource lost was for both players at the end...
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9404 Posts
May 31 2013 00:08 GMT
#245
Major didn't drop enough I think............ Should have tried a bit harder IMO.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 31 2013 00:08 GMT
#246
On May 31 2013 09:06 Greendotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 09:00 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:56 SCST wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:54 Iodem wrote:
Aw, poor Sen. Hope they clear up what happened to him sooner or later.

But why have Violet play if he can't come to America for the live parts of Premier League? :S


You're basically asking if MLG has common sense / a brain . . .

Yea I don't get this... I'm one of the bigger Violet fanboys on the site, but he shouldn't be able to compete in WSC NA until the visa issue gets cleared because it's going to be a recurring issue.


The standard MLG procedure. If anything strays even slightly away from their plan they simply bury their heads in the sand and hope it'll go away/resolve itself/have someone else completely independent from MLG solve it.

This is why you're 3rd MLG! >.<


Considering we might not even see SC2 at Anaheim in a couple weeks due to MLG trying to save a few bucks on qualifiers . . . . I'd say MLG is ranked 0th at this point, rather than 3rd. And yes, I had to invent the term "0th" in order to accommodate how horrible they've been to SC2 lately.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
StreaK
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada580 Posts
May 31 2013 00:09 GMT
#247
good try major!
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miked4o7
Profile Joined January 2013
United States33 Posts
May 31 2013 00:09 GMT
#248
On May 31 2013 08:53 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 08:49 miked4o7 wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:43 Bagration wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:40 miked4o7 wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:37 Bagration wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:36 SniXSniPe wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:35 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:15 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
omg they trolled us with the schedule. I'm not reordering the op

Sen got forfeit loss for not showing up on time

Michael McClelland ‏@ROOTheognis 35m

@LzGaMeR I think they are waiting until the end of tonights broadcast before giving the w.o

Theognis said he hasnt gotten a walkover yet. Are you sure it's official?

It's up to theognis apparently


Hahaha. Leaving it to the player to decide. That's always been such a bullshit call.


Yeah, I agree there. MLG needs to take charge here, rather put the pressure on the players. Oh well



I don't think it's that bad of a thing to do. It's in the best interest of the viewers to have the game played, but it's not fair to a player to make them wait forever for it if that player showed up at the right time and the other didn't. This is the only fair way to have a shot at the game being played still without asking anything unreasonable of theognis


Well, that's what an admin is for. Having the opposing player decide is bad because it is a huge conflict of interest.



I don't know... it doesn't seem that bad to me. Especially since there could be two very different cases depending on theognis' personal schedule. If theognis was like "I have all night free, as long as he shows up before the end of the broadcast I wouldn't mind playing", then possibly getting that game for us to watch would still have been nice. On the other hand if theognis was like "I'm sorry, but the match was scheduled for ~7, and I have to be somewhere at 9, so I need to take the forfeit", then that's the way it would be.

I think that would be preferable to a strict rule where MLG disqualifies Sen 15 minutes after the scheduled time *if* we could have had a chance at actually seeing the game later in the night as long as it didn't conflict with theongis' schedule.


The idea behind conflict of interest is to prevent people who stand to gain or lose from a decision from making said decision, since there is a huge potential for bias. Sometimes having a conflict of interest can even be illegal in severe cases.

Now of course, our situation is much less severe, but it would be unprofessional for the players to decide whether their opponent is DQ'ed. These situations are why we have admins, so that we could have an official making decisions who don't have any conflicts of interest.


Yes, but the conflict of interest in this case doesn't affect anything in his favor. In his favor, he can just take the forfeit, which would be the default ruling if following strict guidelines. He'd be acting against his own interests to agree to play the game later in the night, so I don't think the 'conflict of interest' is a problem really in this case.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 31 2013 00:10 GMT
#249
I wonder why viOLet never gets any playing time in GSTL. has he really fallen to 3rd string for AZUBU's zerg roster? He looked fine that game
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Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
May 31 2013 00:10 GMT
#250
What a campy style.

Major play was terrible. He should have out-macroed violet while starting to slowly build ravens.

Violet just outplayed him, when Major realize he needs tanks, its too late and violets have BL... lol
DiLiGu
Profile Joined December 2011
United States185 Posts
May 31 2013 00:11 GMT
#251
Ah, the high quality Twitch always delivers- stuttering, choppy video even at 480 or 360. As an added bonus, occasional huge pauses of 10-15 seconds at least three times every ten minutes. Does anyone know if this is available on Azubu?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 00:16:15
May 31 2013 00:11 GMT
#252
violet dropped game being remade
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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
May 31 2013 00:11 GMT
#253
On May 31 2013 09:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder why viOLet never gets any playing time in GSTL. has he really fallen to 3rd string for AZUBU's zerg roster? He looked fine that game

He looked good because Major insisted on suiciding a dozen dropships instead of pulling back to his 4 bases and transitioning into air.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 31 2013 00:12 GMT
#254
On May 31 2013 09:11 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 09:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder why viOLet never gets any playing time in GSTL. has he really fallen to 3rd string for AZUBU's zerg roster? He looked fine that game

He looked good because Major insisted on suiciding a dozen dropships instead of pulling back to his 4 bases and transitioning into air.

True. I suppose BBoongBBoong does occasionally look good and it seems AZUBU favors him over viOLet
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 31 2013 00:12 GMT
#255
On May 31 2013 09:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder why viOLet never gets any playing time in GSTL. has he really fallen to 3rd string for AZUBU's zerg roster? He looked fine that game


Well it's only a Bo7 and they have Symbol, so there isn't much room for more Zergs. Maybe B4 or Sleep practice more exclusively for GSTL since they have less individual tournaments.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
DiLiGu
Profile Joined December 2011
United States185 Posts
May 31 2013 00:12 GMT
#256
On May 31 2013 09:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder why viOLet never gets any playing time in GSTL. has he really fallen to 3rd string for AZUBU's zerg roster? He looked fine that game


Dude I was just wondering this! viOlet won an MLG, among other things, and has an incredible ZvZ. Why don't we ever see him play in GSTL?
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
May 31 2013 00:13 GMT
#257
Violet just completely denied drop play with so many spores d:
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
Gonff
Profile Joined May 2010
United States686 Posts
May 31 2013 00:18 GMT
#258
Ugh. So much downtime today...
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
May 31 2013 00:18 GMT
#259
On May 31 2013 09:08 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 09:06 Greendotz wrote:
On May 31 2013 09:00 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:56 SCST wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:54 Iodem wrote:
Aw, poor Sen. Hope they clear up what happened to him sooner or later.

But why have Violet play if he can't come to America for the live parts of Premier League? :S


You're basically asking if MLG has common sense / a brain . . .

Yea I don't get this... I'm one of the bigger Violet fanboys on the site, but he shouldn't be able to compete in WSC NA until the visa issue gets cleared because it's going to be a recurring issue.


The standard MLG procedure. If anything strays even slightly away from their plan they simply bury their heads in the sand and hope it'll go away/resolve itself/have someone else completely independent from MLG solve it.

This is why you're 3rd MLG! >.<


Considering we might not even see SC2 at Anaheim in a couple weeks due to MLG trying to save a few bucks on qualifiers . . . . I'd say MLG is ranked 0th at this point, rather than 3rd. And yes, I had to invent the term "0th" in order to accommodate how horrible they've been to SC2 lately.


Can't disagree with that. If MLG did fail at least WCS would be passed on to NASL guys who would give a much better crack at it (can't say for sure they'd make it work, but I'm 100% sure they'd do better than MLG). Would also be poetic karma for the snide comments Sundance made when IPL officially announced it's failure. Of course I don't actually want MLG to fail, as that's not good for anyone, still, I'd really love to know what shady little back handed deal Sundance made in order to convince Blizzard to let them run WCS. An offer the couldn't refuse? (or keep?)
DiLiGu
Profile Joined December 2011
United States185 Posts
May 31 2013 00:19 GMT
#260
On May 31 2013 09:12 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 09:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder why viOLet never gets any playing time in GSTL. has he really fallen to 3rd string for AZUBU's zerg roster? He looked fine that game


Well it's only a Bo7 and they have Symbol, so there isn't much room for more Zergs. Maybe B4 or Sleep practice more exclusively for GSTL since they have less individual tournaments.


I do not honestly believe that B4 is better than viOlet. However, viOlet is living in America right? Could have a lot to do with it.
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