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ELlminator1
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia344 Posts
May 26 2013 14:41 GMT
#1561
On May 26 2013 23:38 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:37 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:30 DJHelium wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:28 arkedos wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
omg lucifron lost to TLO?? guess it's all the help from the all in style



ehhm the star station game was pretty much straight up macro.

one game in a best of 5? :S


Does it matter how he won?

yes because now TLO is going off to korea where solid play matters and not cheese.


that's a really incorrect assessment, smart cheese builds and good mind games are often more valuable than being a better macro player D:

(though the better overall player usually wins the final championship)

If only inca could have won
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
May 26 2013 14:41 GMT
#1562
On May 26 2013 23:39 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:37 LimitSEA wrote:
That little timer in the bottom right makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Knowing when they're coming back.. so helpful. :D Loving this production. <3

I completely agree, thanks to that timer I don't mind the downtime at all. :O I'm falling a bit in love with ESL.

Aye, knowing that you can jump to do some other stuff(or just tab to something else) rather than wait at the computer and rage.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
May 26 2013 14:41 GMT
#1563
On May 26 2013 23:35 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:34 sitromit wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:33 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:32 sitromit wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:31 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 Waxangel wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 Bagi wrote:
Is the grand finals going to be a weekend tournament or will there be more preparation time between series?

Trying to figure out if the non-KR players stand any chance, more preparation time would definitely favor the Korean players.


2 days long

and the non-KR players are fucked equally either way, imo


Please every time you predict Stephano to lose he wins. So you might have just jinxed Korea! Thx you

I rate Stephano's chances very highly. His ZvZ prowess is unparallelled in 6 continents.


Penguins are very good at ZvZ though, they can beat Stephano any day.

Actually, I'm pretty sure my cat can beat Stephano in ZvZ.


Is your cat named KANGHO?

I've actually taken to calling all my friend's cats LosirA or Kang Ho. They have no fucking clue why.
Long live the King of Wings
Kyaaaaa
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada46 Posts
May 26 2013 14:41 GMT
#1564
On May 26 2013 23:40 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:37 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:37 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:30 DJHelium wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:28 arkedos wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
omg lucifron lost to TLO?? guess it's all the help from the all in style



ehhm the star station game was pretty much straight up macro.

one game in a best of 5? :S


Does it matter how he won?

yes because now TLO is going off to korea where solid play matters and not cheese.
lucifon would get more benefits than TLO in korea


???
Koreans cheese all the time. They cheese whenever they feel it will win them the game...

when was the last time you watched a korean pro cheesed three games straight?

Did you not watch Symbol cheese 5 games in a row vs Innovation?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 26 2013 14:42 GMT
#1565
Oh wow they actually wrote Mvp the right way
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Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
May 26 2013 14:42 GMT
#1566
Gotta love Barterder-Ra
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 26 2013 14:42 GMT
#1567
On May 26 2013 23:40 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:37 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:37 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:30 DJHelium wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:28 arkedos wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
omg lucifron lost to TLO?? guess it's all the help from the all in style



ehhm the star station game was pretty much straight up macro.

one game in a best of 5? :S


Does it matter how he won?

yes because now TLO is going off to korea where solid play matters and not cheese.
lucifon would get more benefits than TLO in korea


???
Koreans cheese all the time. They cheese whenever they feel it will win them the game...

when was the last time you watched a korean pro cheesed three games straight?


MVP yesteday
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
May 26 2013 14:42 GMT
#1568
Feels weird hoping for a ZvZ finals
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 14:43:07
May 26 2013 14:42 GMT
#1569
On May 26 2013 23:41 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:35 DJHelium wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:34 sitromit wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:33 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:32 sitromit wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:31 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 Waxangel wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 Bagi wrote:
Is the grand finals going to be a weekend tournament or will there be more preparation time between series?

Trying to figure out if the non-KR players stand any chance, more preparation time would definitely favor the Korean players.


2 days long

and the non-KR players are fucked equally either way, imo


Please every time you predict Stephano to lose he wins. So you might have just jinxed Korea! Thx you

I rate Stephano's chances very highly. His ZvZ prowess is unparallelled in 6 continents.


Penguins are very good at ZvZ though, they can beat Stephano any day.

Actually, I'm pretty sure my cat can beat Stephano in ZvZ.


Is your cat named KANGHO?

I've actually taken to calling all my friend's cats LosirA or Kang Ho. They have no fucking clue why.

Only allowed if they're cute ones.

On May 26 2013 23:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:40 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:37 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:37 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:30 DJHelium wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:28 arkedos wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
omg lucifron lost to TLO?? guess it's all the help from the all in style



ehhm the star station game was pretty much straight up macro.

one game in a best of 5? :S


Does it matter how he won?

yes because now TLO is going off to korea where solid play matters and not cheese.
lucifon would get more benefits than TLO in korea


???
Koreans cheese all the time. They cheese whenever they feel it will win them the game...

when was the last time you watched a korean pro cheesed three games straight?


MVP yesteday

Wasn't cheese in any way.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 26 2013 14:42 GMT
#1570
On May 26 2013 23:41 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:35 DJHelium wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:34 sitromit wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:33 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:32 sitromit wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:31 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 Waxangel wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 Bagi wrote:
Is the grand finals going to be a weekend tournament or will there be more preparation time between series?

Trying to figure out if the non-KR players stand any chance, more preparation time would definitely favor the Korean players.


2 days long

and the non-KR players are fucked equally either way, imo


Please every time you predict Stephano to lose he wins. So you might have just jinxed Korea! Thx you

I rate Stephano's chances very highly. His ZvZ prowess is unparallelled in 6 continents.


Penguins are very good at ZvZ though, they can beat Stephano any day.

Actually, I'm pretty sure my cat can beat Stephano in ZvZ.


Is your cat named KANGHO?

I've actually taken to calling all my friend's cats LosirA or Kang Ho. They have no fucking clue why.

that's so terrifyingly nerdy
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
May 26 2013 14:42 GMT
#1571
On May 26 2013 23:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:39 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:36 OrchidThief wrote:
Wow, left after the first game, and TLO took three in a row. Were they good games?


Six pool, Roach nydus and a muta transition that cuaght Lucifron off guard.

Wasn't so much a muta transition that caught luci offguard, but just a terrible game by luci. I mean he was going almost pure rauder/hellbat, wtf is up with that... Just feel you devalued how poor that game was from Luci, he's so much better than that


Yeah fair point. Lucifron played the whole series pretty badly. TLO's play could have been much better. If he had excuted those cheeses like a Korean Lucifron wouldn't have stood a chance. Happy for TLO though.

Aye think he must've been trying to play like MVP, but the difference was obviously that the drops obviously went better for MVP and the fact that he was much more in TLOs face, pretty much preventing mutas from coming out.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 26 2013 14:43 GMT
#1572
On May 26 2013 23:40 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:39 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:37 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:30 DJHelium wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:28 arkedos wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
omg lucifron lost to TLO?? guess it's all the help from the all in style



ehhm the star station game was pretty much straight up macro.

one game in a best of 5? :S


Does it matter how he won?

yes because now TLO is going off to korea where solid play matters and not cheese.
lucifon would get more benefits than TLO in korea


Symbol went pretty far


Yeah, and shine. People forget about Shine.


I try to forget his existence.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
May 26 2013 14:43 GMT
#1573
On May 26 2013 23:42 Sjokola wrote:
Feels weird hoping for a ZvZ finals

hahaha just my thoughts :D
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
May 26 2013 14:43 GMT
#1574
Wait, double gas cancel is gimmicky now? That's taking advantage of misinformation. Show him 2 gas, cancel when scv leaves. It's your responsibility as a Terran player to scan again later and confirm he still went 2 gas. If anything, that's Lucifron being greedy/lazy for saving a scan for more economy.

TLO won, how he won is irrelevant.
I love crazymoving
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 26 2013 14:43 GMT
#1575
On May 26 2013 23:40 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:37 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:37 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:30 DJHelium wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:28 arkedos wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
omg lucifron lost to TLO?? guess it's all the help from the all in style



ehhm the star station game was pretty much straight up macro.

one game in a best of 5? :S


Does it matter how he won?

yes because now TLO is going off to korea where solid play matters and not cheese.
lucifon would get more benefits than TLO in korea


???
Koreans cheese all the time. They cheese whenever they feel it will win them the game...

when was the last time you watched a korean pro cheesed three games straight?

Someone remind me when Symbol vs Innovation was.
Also, Shine, Heart, Flying, Line etc. There is plenty of Korean pros who basically cheese in a vast majority of their games.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
May 26 2013 14:43 GMT
#1576
I dont know why people are saying that TLO "cheesed to win", because only one of the games was a cheese game (and he only won because of playing errors made by his opponent). The other two games were pretty much regular games ... Nydus Worms are a regular option for him after all and taking a shortcut to the opponents base by using a Nydus is a smart choice.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 26 2013 14:44 GMT
#1577
On May 26 2013 23:29 EthanML wrote:
What's up with the number of people who seem to have missed the last 6 months or so when TLO has become clearly one of the best players in Europe? Are people ignorant or just super butthurt about Lucifron losing for some reason?

TLO is legit, deal with it.


I agree with this sentiment. I've never really followed TLO much since the beta when he was picked up by TL, but as of now you have to admit he's been showing good results.

If TLO can show such games off-form, then he deserves that win. Getting that far into WCS alone should be enough for him to "deserve" the win. Lucifron might be good for one reason or another, whether it be nerves or not being able to adapt to random bullshit, he lost. TLO won.

It's that simple, I'm glad TLO won because he's showing that he has what it takes.
maru lover forever
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 26 2013 14:44 GMT
#1578
On May 26 2013 23:43 Flonomenalz wrote:
Wait, double gas cancel is gimmicky now? That's taking advantage of misinformation. Show him 2 gas, cancel when scv leaves. It's your responsibility as a Terran player to scan again later and confirm he still went 2 gas. If anything, that's Lucifron being greedy/lazy for saving a scan for more economy.

Go play Terran please.
Reactivate
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands26 Posts
May 26 2013 14:44 GMT
#1579
I was hoping Lucifron would win, but let me be clear about this. It doesn't matter in what way you win, even if you use somekind of cheesy strat or an all-in. At the end of the day only winning counts.

TLO just played some good games en caught lucif of guard with some of his strats. Stop complaining about it. Lucifron wil have a next change and we all see that he's one of EU's finest at this moment.

Congrats TLO and keep your head up Lucifron!

Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 26 2013 14:44 GMT
#1580
On May 26 2013 23:40 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:37 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:37 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:30 DJHelium wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:29 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:28 arkedos wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
omg lucifron lost to TLO?? guess it's all the help from the all in style



ehhm the star station game was pretty much straight up macro.

one game in a best of 5? :S


Does it matter how he won?

yes because now TLO is going off to korea where solid play matters and not cheese.
lucifon would get more benefits than TLO in korea


???
Koreans cheese all the time. They cheese whenever they feel it will win them the game...

when was the last time you watched a korean pro cheesed three games straight?


Symbol vs Innovation just this week
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