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On May 26 2013 21:26 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 21:25 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Really blows that lucifron ran into forgg's TvT :[ Well actually it was just a hige mistake by Luci in the last game... more than forGGs TvtT. forGG was defeated and LucifroN didn't have a closed of wall that lost him the game. Build supplys man! They matter ^_- Never has it been more true
And not only this. Lucifron basically through game 4 due to horrible control and a (imo) stupid rush. Being 2-0 ahead, he had 3 chances to beat ForGG with his great play, not with SCV trains over and over again.
I would have loved to see him compete in the Finals but I think it's really his own loss rather than ForGG's awesome TvT
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On May 26 2013 21:45 Extenz wrote:
scan obs snipe ,, how can you even beat that?
have a second obs? Don't fly your obs directly with your army, just like terran has to single handedly controll their medivacs to not be sniped.
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Wait did babyk only ever have 1 obs during those engagements?
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On May 26 2013 21:47 HaRuHi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 21:45 Extenz wrote:
scan obs snipe ,, how can you even beat that? have a second obs? Don't fly your obs directly with your army, just like terran has to single handedly controll their medivacs to not be sniped.
Nobody does that, lol
Also BabyK had at least 2 obs during the last engagement, both were sniped
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
Ok I'm going to start doing LR from this point onwards
Hopefully we get some good games!
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On May 26 2013 21:46 kollin wrote:
If you actually control your observers then you're fine.
Oh, really? I know nothing about this mu but how do you handle vikings moving forward with the great range at the same time as a scan?
On May 26 2013 21:47 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 21:45 Extenz wrote:
scan obs snipe ,, how can you even beat that? I keep my Observers tagged onto my Colossi. It helps since the Vikings have to get pretty close to snipe the Observers (they need to be in range of the Colossi) and since it is kinda difficult to click on Observers if they are hidden by Colossi.
Ïnteresting. Aren't they too far back to see the cloaked ghosts then?
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On May 26 2013 21:46 Sewi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 21:26 Type|NarutO wrote:On May 26 2013 21:25 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Really blows that lucifron ran into forgg's TvT :[ Well actually it was just a hige mistake by Luci in the last game... more than forGGs TvtT. forGG was defeated and LucifroN didn't have a closed of wall that lost him the game. Build supplys man! They matter ^_- Never has it been more true And not only this. Lucifron basically through game 4 due to horrible control and a (imo) stupid rush. Being 2-0 ahead, he had 3 chances to beat ForGG with his great play, not with SCV trains over and over again. I would have loved to see him compete in the Finals but I think it's really his own loss rather than ForGG's awesome TvT
You can't deny his game three hold of the thor rush was amazing but game four was a definite mistake on lucifron's part the build was a bad choice against such a hellion focused player and the control wasn't up to scratch.
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On May 26 2013 21:48 Cereb wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 21:46 kollin wrote:
If you actually control your observers then you're fine. Oh, really? I know nothing about this mu but how do you handle vikings moving forward with the great range at the same time as a scan?
You pull your observers back?
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On May 26 2013 21:47 kollin wrote:
Wait did babyk only ever have 1 obs during those engagements?
Before the last engagement BabyKnight had 2 observers but they were both sniped (in 2 separate scans).
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 26 2013 21:48 Cereb wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 21:46 kollin wrote:
If you actually control your observers then you're fine. Oh, really? I know nothing about this mu but how do you handle vikings moving forward with the great range at the same time as a scan?
Observer speed helps 
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On May 26 2013 21:48 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 21:48 Cereb wrote:On May 26 2013 21:46 kollin wrote:
If you actually control your observers then you're fine. Oh, really? I know nothing about this mu but how do you handle vikings moving forward with the great range at the same time as a scan? Observer speed helps
Oh wow did BabyK really not have obs speed :o
I guess he might not be that experienced at lategame PvT or something, that's a big blunder.
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On May 26 2013 21:47 HaRuHi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 21:45 Extenz wrote:
scan obs snipe ,, how can you even beat that? have a second obs? Don't fly your obs directly with your army, just like terran has to single handedly controll their medivacs to not be sniped.
You are right though, but it's still a silly concept when you go late. Terran will have a flood of energy to use on scans, while Protoss has the Observer and Oracle which will get monster focused by vikings, since you can simply +a attack forwards with them. So unless you hit a revelation with the Oracle you're gonna have a bad time against Ghosts.
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Does revelation reveal cloaked units if used when they were not cloaked?
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On May 26 2013 21:48 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 21:48 Cereb wrote:On May 26 2013 21:46 kollin wrote:
If you actually control your observers then you're fine. Oh, really? I know nothing about this mu but how do you handle vikings moving forward with the great range at the same time as a scan? Observer speed helps
Fair enough... I'll trust you guys' word on this 
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OMG, White-ra analysis... so perfect.
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I don't understand a single word that Whitera says.
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Shhhiat, WhiteRa looks badass!^^
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EPT
