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Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
May 26 2013 17:37 GMT
#3361
On May 27 2013 02:36 sitromit wrote:
Is it just me or is this a really bad build by ForGG? He didn't have enough units at a timing where he could really do anything with them. What was the point of this 2 base attack?

I don't remember a single game where this build did good.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
May 26 2013 17:37 GMT
#3362
On May 27 2013 02:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:36 LimitSEA wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:35 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:34 Linwelin wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:33 Wintex wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:31 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:29 LimitSEA wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:28 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:26 Ph4ZeD wrote:
ForGG demonstrating how he can only win via cheesing against good players.


> TLO cheeses
> Everyone praises him

> ForGG cheeses
> Only gets hatred

smh

thats because how often do you see terran cheese a zerg? how often do you see a zerg cheese a terran?


That has to be the stupidest reasoning I've heard for hypocrisy.

no i say the same thing for protoss..i hate cheese from terrans/protoss much more then from zerg.

Dat roach/ling/bling sure is entertaining and we have not seen it a lot this month, right?


No man you don't understand. Zerg cheese/all ins are great and extremely entertaining. Fuck terran and protoss though
/unbiased


Well, it's undeniable that there's nothing quite like a July timing/all-in. ^^

Damnit I miss July.

:<


2 more years.

two full years? didn't he enter it last fall?
The Bomber boy
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 17:37:36
May 26 2013 17:37 GMT
#3363
On May 27 2013 02:36 Noocta wrote:
I don't understand 2 bases timing in TvZ
It's just a very high risk low reward timing..


I agree. Unlike the 11/11 or 12/13 which is higher reward and lower risk.

He should just do that again. It is his best chance to win.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33667 Posts
May 26 2013 17:37 GMT
#3364
yay someone is making tanks

I hope we see at least one 2/2 vs 0/0 fight, it would make me so happy
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
broodmann
Profile Joined December 2011
604 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 17:38:17
May 26 2013 17:37 GMT
#3365
What was ForGG thinking with that attack? In what world does Stephano take damage from that?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#3366
On May 27 2013 02:37 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:36 stuchiu wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:36 LimitSEA wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:35 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:34 Linwelin wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:33 Wintex wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:31 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:29 LimitSEA wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:28 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
[quote]

> TLO cheeses
> Everyone praises him

> ForGG cheeses
> Only gets hatred

smh

thats because how often do you see terran cheese a zerg? how often do you see a zerg cheese a terran?


That has to be the stupidest reasoning I've heard for hypocrisy.

no i say the same thing for protoss..i hate cheese from terrans/protoss much more then from zerg.

Dat roach/ling/bling sure is entertaining and we have not seen it a lot this month, right?


No man you don't understand. Zerg cheese/all ins are great and extremely entertaining. Fuck terran and protoss though
/unbiased


Well, it's undeniable that there's nothing quite like a July timing/all-in. ^^

Damnit I miss July.

:<


2 more years.

two full years? didn't he enter it last fall?


LP says he went in March 30 this year.
Moderator
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#3367
On May 27 2013 02:36 sitromit wrote:
Is it just me or is this a really bad build by ForGG? He didn't have enough units at a timing where he could really do anything with them. What was the point of this 2 base attack?

He's not very good at 3 base management so he probably wants to stay on 2 bases whole game and this build is tailored for it
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#3368
On May 27 2013 02:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:36 LimitSEA wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:35 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:34 Linwelin wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:33 Wintex wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:31 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:29 LimitSEA wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:28 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:26 Ph4ZeD wrote:
ForGG demonstrating how he can only win via cheesing against good players.


> TLO cheeses
> Everyone praises him

> ForGG cheeses
> Only gets hatred

smh

thats because how often do you see terran cheese a zerg? how often do you see a zerg cheese a terran?


That has to be the stupidest reasoning I've heard for hypocrisy.

no i say the same thing for protoss..i hate cheese from terrans/protoss much more then from zerg.

Dat roach/ling/bling sure is entertaining and we have not seen it a lot this month, right?


No man you don't understand. Zerg cheese/all ins are great and extremely entertaining. Fuck terran and protoss though
/unbiased


Well, it's undeniable that there's nothing quite like a July timing/all-in. ^^

Damnit I miss July.

:<


2 more years.


As long as he tries instead of just retiring, I'm ok with that.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#3369
ForGG didn't get the memo that 2-bases timings into third are horrible since the Queen patch.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#3370
On May 27 2013 02:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:36 LimitSEA wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:35 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:34 Linwelin wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:33 Wintex wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:31 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:29 LimitSEA wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:28 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:26 Ph4ZeD wrote:
ForGG demonstrating how he can only win via cheesing against good players.


> TLO cheeses
> Everyone praises him

> ForGG cheeses
> Only gets hatred

smh

thats because how often do you see terran cheese a zerg? how often do you see a zerg cheese a terran?


That has to be the stupidest reasoning I've heard for hypocrisy.

no i say the same thing for protoss..i hate cheese from terrans/protoss much more then from zerg.

Dat roach/ling/bling sure is entertaining and we have not seen it a lot this month, right?


No man you don't understand. Zerg cheese/all ins are great and extremely entertaining. Fuck terran and protoss though
/unbiased


Well, it's undeniable that there's nothing quite like a July timing/all-in. ^^

Damnit I miss July.

:<


2 more years.

First lotv GSL is july's as he revolutionises zerg using the new units for ingenious timings and aggression.



Or 16 baneling busts.
Glorious SEA doto
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
May 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#3371
On May 27 2013 02:37 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:36 sitromit wrote:
Is it just me or is this a really bad build by ForGG? He didn't have enough units at a timing where he could really do anything with them. What was the point of this 2 base attack?

I don't remember a single game where this build did good.


Its a strong build if you are not supply blocked like crazy... ^^"
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#3372
On May 27 2013 02:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:36 LimitSEA wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:35 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:34 Linwelin wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:33 Wintex wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:31 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:29 LimitSEA wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:28 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:26 Ph4ZeD wrote:
ForGG demonstrating how he can only win via cheesing against good players.


> TLO cheeses
> Everyone praises him

> ForGG cheeses
> Only gets hatred

smh

thats because how often do you see terran cheese a zerg? how often do you see a zerg cheese a terran?


That has to be the stupidest reasoning I've heard for hypocrisy.

no i say the same thing for protoss..i hate cheese from terrans/protoss much more then from zerg.

Dat roach/ling/bling sure is entertaining and we have not seen it a lot this month, right?


No man you don't understand. Zerg cheese/all ins are great and extremely entertaining. Fuck terran and protoss though
/unbiased


Well, it's undeniable that there's nothing quite like a July timing/all-in. ^^

Damnit I miss July.

:<


2 more years.

Isn't the whole army term about 2 years, and he's been away for almost a year already?
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
May 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#3373
2-2 vs 0-0 window? Oh - Em - Gee
HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
May 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#3374
On May 27 2013 02:37 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:36 Noocta wrote:
I don't understand 2 bases timing in TvZ
It's just a very high risk low reward timing..


I agree. Unlike the 11/11 or 12/13 which is higher reward and lower risk.

He should just do that again. It is his best chance to win.


Yeah but this kind of stuff never works twice ! See Luci's proxy thor build for example.
"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
May 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#3375
On May 27 2013 02:36 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:34 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:33 Wintex wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:31 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:29 LimitSEA wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:28 oogieogie wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:26 Ph4ZeD wrote:
ForGG demonstrating how he can only win via cheesing against good players.


> TLO cheeses
> Everyone praises him

> ForGG cheeses
> Only gets hatred

smh

thats because how often do you see terran cheese a zerg? how often do you see a zerg cheese a terran?


That has to be the stupidest reasoning I've heard for hypocrisy.

no i say the same thing for protoss..i hate cheese from terrans/protoss much more then from zerg.

Dat roach/ling/bling sure is entertaining and we have not seen it a lot this month, right?

dat 2 rax sure is entertaining and we have not seen it a lot ever, right?

Micro is always a sexy thing to watch. Compared to 1a2a3a

not 2 rax micro for me
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33667 Posts
May 26 2013 17:39 GMT
#3376
divided and conquered D:
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Msr
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)495 Posts
May 26 2013 17:39 GMT
#3377
On May 27 2013 02:36 sitromit wrote:
Is it just me or is this a really bad build by ForGG? He didn't have enough units at a timing where he could really do anything with them. What was the point of this 2 base attack?


bad players tend to use bad builds. Even if you have not played forgg before to know how unskilled he is, he should know that stephano is capable of roach armies and that his build sucks vs stephanos build...
Yunarc
Profile Joined March 2011
United States314 Posts
May 26 2013 17:39 GMT
#3378
Great attack by stephano
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 26 2013 17:39 GMT
#3379
On May 27 2013 02:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 02:32 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 27 2013 02:28 KelsierSC wrote:
WCS_EU Premier League Season 1 Finals - Semi Final 2
[image loading] (T)ForGG 1-1 [image loading] (Z)Stephano

Game 3

Map Bel'Shir Vestige

00:00 - Stephano Spawns Top Left , forGG Spawns Top Left



01:00 - drone scout from stephano - forGG IS IN HIS HEAD!!!!!

02:00 - CC first from forGG again
Stephano expands
CC on the low ground
Stephano harassing the SCV, forcing some repairs nice micro from both sides
pool
rax and gas from forGG

03:00 - so how bout that last game, huh, pretty bad
2 queens

04:00 - no gas from stephano looks like heavy queen play
factory for forGG
bunker at the front of the natural
2 gas from stephano now
2 more queens

05:00 - 3rd hatchery for stephano very early
2 more rax from forGG stephano scouts it instantly!!
2nd gas from forGG
techlab from forGG



06:00 - Roach warren, double evo chamber
hellion production begins
range and armour upgrades

07:00 - Stim begins and starport production
a few safety roaches for stephano
3rd gas for stephano
some nice creep denial from forGG

08:00 - marine, marauder, hellion production continuing
lair
more drones from stephano
supply blocks galore, many lulz are had

09:00 - more roaches
medivacs being built
roach speed
combat shield

10:00 - forGG moves out towards the third
Stephanos roaches are a bit out of position
ENGAGEMENT MID MAP
GOOD SURROUNDS FROM STEPHANO
BUT SO MUCH BIO, A LOT OF ROACHES DIE
18 ROACHES ON THE WAY





11:00 - forGG has to pick and go
+2 range begins for Stephano
3rd CC goes down
double ebay goes down
more drones
tanks begin for forGG
stephano spots a drop incoming

12:00 - Hydra production begins
+2 armour for stephano
1/1 for forGG
forGG sends a force to the third but stephano has split his army nicely

13:00 - 5 more rax!!!!
tanks, medivacs and bio being produced for forGG
the 3rd CC is about to land

14:00 - Hydra Speed
181-141 in favour of stephano
LETS DO THIS!!!!
Stephano has a flourishing 3 base economy
armoury
Big ROACH HYDRA ARMY
MOVING IN!!!!

15:00 - the tanks are there and stephano backs off
more roaches
4th base being taken
STEPHANO SPLITS HIS ARMY AND ATTACKS the NATURAL AND THE 3rd!!
Zerg for Life
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 26 2013 17:39 GMT
#3380
Just woke up

Damn Mvp, slow down, try losing a game.
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