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On May 22 2013 11:34 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 11:33 Bagration wrote:
Apocalypse is going to have to study up unit counters for TvZ after this match. Thors against swarmhosts, marines against ultralisks. it's hard to transition from those marines/hellbat build against ultras tho, he probably had 6rax reactored + 1tech lab so you're kinda screwed if you don't anticipate the switch. in game 1 tho...
Maybe so but he didn't need to attack into ultra/baneling on creep, he could have droped/sat behind a wall or up a ramp while making better units.
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On May 22 2013 11:33 Brutaxilos wrote:
Honest question. Is it just me or have foreigners been doing a lot better recently?
I remember a few months ago people were saying that the gap between the foreigners and the Koreans was getting bigger and bigger. But I feel like many foreigners have been showing really really amazing results lately and beating a lot of Koreans.
The gap between foreigners and Koreans has definitely narrowed. However, the skill gap has only narrowed for ESF Koreans and foreigners. Foreigners and ESF Koreans can't even hold a candle to KeSPA players right now...
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COME ON MOONGLADE; WIIIIIIIIIIIN THE LAST BO3
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On May 22 2013 11:35 holy_war wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 11:34 ArchangelJada wrote:
Foreigner are getting better, but there still a huge difference with top tier Koreans and most these WCS Eu / AM koreans, they aint no top tier Code S players for sure. While true, a small victory is still a victory.
yeah better than times when B teamer like monster could fly to DH and get top4 easily.
Snute/Luci vs top koreans would definitely interest me (and forGG vs top terrans :D) because they might be not too far from there.
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Poll: Head?TheStC (11) 73% mOOnGLaDe (4) 27% 15 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): TheStC
(Vote): mOOnGLaDe
Poll: Heart?mOOnGLaDe (15) 83% TheStC (3) 17% 18 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): TheStC
(Vote): mOOnGLaDe
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On May 22 2013 11:33 Brutaxilos wrote:
Honest question. Is it just me or have foreigners been doing a lot better recently?
I remember a few months ago people were saying that the gap between the foreigners and the Koreans was getting bigger and bigger. But I feel like many foreigners have been showing really really amazing results lately and beating a lot of Koreans.
Foreigners are getting better against the lower-mid tier Koreans and being able to take them out on a more regular basis then ever before, but I think the skill gap between the top foreigners and top Code S Koreans is still just as big if not bigger. Kind of weird the lower tier players and getting closer but the higher tier players getting farther apart the way I see it.
Of course this is just pure speculation and my opinion soo I could be horribly wrong xD
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On May 22 2013 11:33 Brutaxilos wrote:
Honest question. Is it just me or have foreigners been doing a lot better recently?
I remember a few months ago people were saying that the gap between the foreigners and the Koreans was getting bigger and bigger. But I feel like many foreigners have been showing really really amazing results lately and beating a lot of Koreans.
Kespa pros don't travel abroad much. A lot of the top Koreans in GSL (WCS KR) don't really have much reason to travel abroad now other than the occasional weekender. There's still a lot of talent in KR that hasn't been playing a lot of foreigners recently
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On May 22 2013 11:36 EnderCraft wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 11:33 Brutaxilos wrote:
Honest question. Is it just me or have foreigners been doing a lot better recently?
I remember a few months ago people were saying that the gap between the foreigners and the Koreans was getting bigger and bigger. But I feel like many foreigners have been showing really really amazing results lately and beating a lot of Koreans. The gap between foreigners and Koreans has definitely narrowed. However, the skill gap has only narrowed for ESF Koreans and foreigners. Foreigners and ESF Koreans can't even hold a candle to KeSPA players right now...
Uhhh based on what? Pretty sure Life, Polt, Leenock, Parting (I consider him ESF since he just signed with Kespa) are still way up there...Innovation is the only really untouchable player atm.
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On May 22 2013 11:35 Laryleprakon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 11:34 sAsImre wrote:On May 22 2013 11:33 Bagration wrote:
Apocalypse is going to have to study up unit counters for TvZ after this match. Thors against swarmhosts, marines against ultralisks. it's hard to transition from those marines/hellbat build against ultras tho, he probably had 6rax reactored + 1tech lab so you're kinda screwed if you don't anticipate the switch. in game 1 tho... Maybe so but he didn't need to attack into ultra/baneling on creep, he could have droped/sat behind a wall or up a ramp while making better units.
he must have been so nervous because his play is usually a LOT cleaner than that and he made a lot of fail moves (dropping twice into 2 spores, micro against the 200pop burst, clearing creep without medivacs and scans...) but i was only commentating about his army comp :p
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On May 22 2013 11:38 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 11:36 EnderCraft wrote:On May 22 2013 11:33 Brutaxilos wrote:
Honest question. Is it just me or have foreigners been doing a lot better recently?
I remember a few months ago people were saying that the gap between the foreigners and the Koreans was getting bigger and bigger. But I feel like many foreigners have been showing really really amazing results lately and beating a lot of Koreans. The gap between foreigners and Koreans has definitely narrowed. However, the skill gap has only narrowed for ESF Koreans and foreigners. Foreigners and ESF Koreans can't even hold a candle to KeSPA players right now... Uhhh based on what? Pretty sure Life, Polt, Leenock, Parting (I consider him ESF since he just signed with Kespa) are still way up there...Innovation is the only really untouchable player atm.
but KESPA man
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now would be the opportune time to show shots of the new york skyline and instead we're treated to bored players at their keyboards while tech staffs reposition cameras.
MLG pls
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On May 22 2013 11:38 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 11:36 EnderCraft wrote:On May 22 2013 11:33 Brutaxilos wrote:
Honest question. Is it just me or have foreigners been doing a lot better recently?
I remember a few months ago people were saying that the gap between the foreigners and the Koreans was getting bigger and bigger. But I feel like many foreigners have been showing really really amazing results lately and beating a lot of Koreans. The gap between foreigners and Koreans has definitely narrowed. However, the skill gap has only narrowed for ESF Koreans and foreigners. Foreigners and ESF Koreans can't even hold a candle to KeSPA players right now... Uhhh based on what? Pretty sure Life, Polt, Leenock, Parting (I consider him ESF since he just signed with Kespa) are still way up there...Innovation is the only really untouchable player atm.
sorry but Polt is nowhere near top kespa players atm... sadly :'(
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United States97274 Posts
Who cares about Kespa vs esf. the real elephant in the room = MOBA players. Babyknight killing all the top EU players in WCS. Coca doing well at Dreamhack. sC just qualified for the up and downs beating kespa and esf alike and got an all kill in the GSTL.
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United States97274 Posts
On May 22 2013 11:37 opterown wrote:Poll: Head?TheStC (11) 73% mOOnGLaDe (4) 27% 15 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): TheStC
(Vote): mOOnGLaDe
Poll: Heart?mOOnGLaDe (15) 83% TheStC (3) 17% 18 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): TheStC
(Vote): mOOnGLaDe
for the record I voted Heart for TheStC. Down with straya
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On May 22 2013 11:35 Laryleprakon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 11:34 sAsImre wrote:On May 22 2013 11:33 Bagration wrote:
Apocalypse is going to have to study up unit counters for TvZ after this match. Thors against swarmhosts, marines against ultralisks. it's hard to transition from those marines/hellbat build against ultras tho, he probably had 6rax reactored + 1tech lab so you're kinda screwed if you don't anticipate the switch. in game 1 tho... Maybe so but he didn't need to attack into ultra/baneling on creep, he could have droped/sat behind a wall or up a ramp while making better units.
i dont agree.. when seeing 4 queens spreading creep with your scoutting scv's and seeing ling/bane/muta... u know its commin. He played not good enough today.
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gogogog moonshine! moon the STC with the win ! 
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opterown
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On May 22 2013 11:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who cares about Kespa vs esf. the real elephant in the room = MOBA players. Babyknight killing all the top EU players in WCS. Coca doing well at Dreamhack. sC just qualified for the up and downs beating kespa and esf alike and got an all kill in the GSTL.
just wait for washed up dota players to transition to sc2
yaphets #1 sc2 player
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On May 22 2013 11:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who cares about Kespa vs esf. the real elephant in the room = MOBA players. Babyknight killing all the top EU players in WCS. Coca doing well at Dreamhack. sC just qualified for the up and downs beating kespa and esf alike and got an all kill in the GSTL.
But they were all sc2 players before they went to MOBAs ^_~
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moonglados looks so sleeeepy
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EPT
