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On May 21 2013 21:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 21:28 kheldorin wrote:On May 21 2013 21:26 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:00 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:58 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:55 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:46 Bagi wrote:On May 21 2013 20:43 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
I think sOs probably gets beaten a lot by Soulkey in teamhouse, so he got nervous in early matches, couple of bad mistakes made him flounder even more, so comes the multiple cheeses. And both probably didn't even practice for this series. Somehow I find that highly unlikely. It's likely because of their focus on SPL, usually they only get one day practice before GSL, or even just one stay up night. And also some players did that in BW individual league before also, forgot who, they said they agreed not to practice for each other before the matches, only general practice. And it's a teamkill, coach won't care at all. do you have a source for your first assertion? Many interviews from proleague players said similar things about short practice before GSL, especially when they have a SPL match on Monday or Tuesday, they don't get any practice time at all for individual league if they want to sleep. I don't watch TL interviews, so I can't find them here. I read just about all the interviews and such statements feel are actually quite rare, I feel that such assertions are blown out of proportion and devalue GSL. It is not an assertion if there's evidence to support the statement (indirectly you stated so yourself). Kespa players are recruited and sponsored to play in pro league and that is their highest priority UNLESS the coach works with their player to accommodate practice time for an individual league which Kespa coaches have done and continue to do. How exactly was Charlie.Sheens factual comment intended to "devalue the GSL"? I can agree with you if the two leagues had identical map pools but evidently they don't. The point is where is the evidence?? Just because you keep saying there is evidence doesn't make it true. Just link it. Read Flashes interview. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397250
I think its pretty unfair to compare a ro48 code A match interview to WCS GSL semi finals. Not to mention that WJS is pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot already and can afford to have two of their players focus on GSL a while. Plus, proleague total prize money is what, 250k? These guys are not making top dollar playing for their teams, and a WCS season win plus a shot the finals and the grand finals, and I'm pretty sure they're gonna care.
The matches were weird, but that sometimes just happens in ZvP and them being teammates makes that all the more likely.
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On May 21 2013 21:50 silentsaint wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 20:36 Valikyr wrote:On May 21 2013 20:30 Musicus wrote:
Tasteless had to call Innovation the best RTS player we've ever seen at least once today :D. Yea lol. Where did the memory of Flash and Nada go  Flash is only the best BW player of all time while at the same time being one of the 3 best terrans in SC2. Tastosis probably just do it to create a "storyline". You have to at least hype a little bit for that. Also, commentators always exageratte like hell to create suspense.
I'm pretty sure that they have scientific proofs and clues - both experimental and logical ones - to reinforce their comments on Innovation. Or are you calling them lyers? Are you? ARE YOU???
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SoulKey MA BOI! Hell yes, this GSL is all yours. Keep on trucking.
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On May 21 2013 22:19 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 22:12 theMagus wrote:On May 21 2013 22:08 neptunusfisk wrote:On May 21 2013 21:50 silentsaint wrote:On May 21 2013 20:36 Valikyr wrote:On May 21 2013 20:30 Musicus wrote:
Tasteless had to call Innovation the best RTS player we've ever seen at least once today :D. Yea lol. Where did the memory of Flash and Nada go Flash is only the best BW player of all time while at the same time being one of the 3 best terrans in SC2. Tastosis probably just do it to create a "storyline". You have to at least hype a little bit for that. Also, commentators always exageratte like hell to create suspense. But... Innovation is playing so much better than Flash right now. He's lost 3 maps this GSL. (Against Rain and Flash.) okay, innovation is the best rts player of all time. lol. If you assume that the general level of play has been increasing over time (it has) and that SC2 is higher paced and harder to play "perfectly enough" than BW (which it is) and also that Flash is doing his best (which is likely), then it's not a unreasonable statement to claim Innovation being the best ever.
No way. The competition in BW was fiercer than it is now. There were more pros and more young people playing (in Korea, where it counts). Innovations little streak, as impressive as it may be, is utterly insignificant if you compare it to the dominance of players like Savior, Oov, Flash, Jaedong, Bisu... Even nowdays unknown players like Leta had comparable streaks in BW.
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Did Soulkey and Innovation ever clash in BW in like a tournament setting? How would you compare their skill lvl in BW.
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On May 21 2013 22:59 massivez wrote:
Did Soulkey and Innovation ever clash in BW in like a tournament setting? How would you compare their skill lvl in BW.
Only met in PL. Soulkey is much better in BW than Bogus. Soulkey was already fighting against Zero for Stars' ace position while Bogus was just starting to establish himself as a solid STX terran.
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On May 21 2013 22:19 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 22:12 theMagus wrote:On May 21 2013 22:08 neptunusfisk wrote:On May 21 2013 21:50 silentsaint wrote:On May 21 2013 20:36 Valikyr wrote:On May 21 2013 20:30 Musicus wrote:
Tasteless had to call Innovation the best RTS player we've ever seen at least once today :D. Yea lol. Where did the memory of Flash and Nada go Flash is only the best BW player of all time while at the same time being one of the 3 best terrans in SC2. Tastosis probably just do it to create a "storyline". You have to at least hype a little bit for that. Also, commentators always exageratte like hell to create suspense. But... Innovation is playing so much better than Flash right now. He's lost 3 maps this GSL. (Against Rain and Flash.) okay, innovation is the best rts player of all time. lol. If you assume that the general level of play has been increasing over time (it has) and that SC2 is higher paced and harder to play "perfectly enough" than BW (which it is) and also that Flash is doing his best (which is likely), then it's not a unreasonable statement to claim Innovation being the best ever.
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On May 21 2013 21:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 21:28 kheldorin wrote:On May 21 2013 21:26 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:00 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:58 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:55 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:46 Bagi wrote:On May 21 2013 20:43 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
I think sOs probably gets beaten a lot by Soulkey in teamhouse, so he got nervous in early matches, couple of bad mistakes made him flounder even more, so comes the multiple cheeses. And both probably didn't even practice for this series. Somehow I find that highly unlikely. It's likely because of their focus on SPL, usually they only get one day practice before GSL, or even just one stay up night. And also some players did that in BW individual league before also, forgot who, they said they agreed not to practice for each other before the matches, only general practice. And it's a teamkill, coach won't care at all. do you have a source for your first assertion? Many interviews from proleague players said similar things about short practice before GSL, especially when they have a SPL match on Monday or Tuesday, they don't get any practice time at all for individual league if they want to sleep. I don't watch TL interviews, so I can't find them here. I read just about all the interviews and such statements feel are actually quite rare, I feel that such assertions are blown out of proportion and devalue GSL. It is not an assertion if there's evidence to support the statement (indirectly you stated so yourself). Kespa players are recruited and sponsored to play in pro league and that is their highest priority UNLESS the coach works with their player to accommodate practice time for an individual league which Kespa coaches have done and continue to do. How exactly was Charlie.Sheens factual comment intended to "devalue the GSL"? I can agree with you if the two leagues had identical map pools but evidently they don't. The point is where is the evidence?? Just because you keep saying there is evidence doesn't make it true. Just link it. Read Flashes interview. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397250
Is it coincidence that Flash's performances in PL often went down while he was deep in M/OSL? And even ignoring that, I believe Flash in particular has commented on this in a GSL interview, saying that GSL is his top priority.
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On May 21 2013 23:10 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 21:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:28 kheldorin wrote:On May 21 2013 21:26 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:00 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:58 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:55 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:46 Bagi wrote:On May 21 2013 20:43 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
I think sOs probably gets beaten a lot by Soulkey in teamhouse, so he got nervous in early matches, couple of bad mistakes made him flounder even more, so comes the multiple cheeses. And both probably didn't even practice for this series. Somehow I find that highly unlikely. It's likely because of their focus on SPL, usually they only get one day practice before GSL, or even just one stay up night. And also some players did that in BW individual league before also, forgot who, they said they agreed not to practice for each other before the matches, only general practice. And it's a teamkill, coach won't care at all. do you have a source for your first assertion? Many interviews from proleague players said similar things about short practice before GSL, especially when they have a SPL match on Monday or Tuesday, they don't get any practice time at all for individual league if they want to sleep. I don't watch TL interviews, so I can't find them here. I read just about all the interviews and such statements feel are actually quite rare, I feel that such assertions are blown out of proportion and devalue GSL. It is not an assertion if there's evidence to support the statement (indirectly you stated so yourself). Kespa players are recruited and sponsored to play in pro league and that is their highest priority UNLESS the coach works with their player to accommodate practice time for an individual league which Kespa coaches have done and continue to do. How exactly was Charlie.Sheens factual comment intended to "devalue the GSL"? I can agree with you if the two leagues had identical map pools but evidently they don't. The point is where is the evidence?? Just because you keep saying there is evidence doesn't make it true. Just link it. Read Flashes interview. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397250 Is it coincidence that Flash's performances in PL often went down while he was deep in M/OSL? And even ignoring that, I believe Flash in particular has commented on this in a GSL interview, saying that GSL is his top priority.
I think it just depends on the players. Someone like Flash definitely has a chance to grab a GSL victory. His teammates for example though... although Stats and Wooki might not be far behind Flash in terms of skill as seen on PL, they just roll over and die in the qualifiers. Teams require players a certain amount of time to practice for PL and my guess is that they just let them do what they want beyond that. The players in PL are known to play more than what their teams require them to, and some Stats/Wooki-like players probably still use that time preparing for PL while Flash-like players focus on individual leagues. Stats/Wooki-like players would prefer getting better salary by getting good records in PL anyway than try winning a GSL one time big time.
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On May 21 2013 22:46 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 21:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:28 kheldorin wrote:On May 21 2013 21:26 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:00 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:58 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:55 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:46 Bagi wrote:On May 21 2013 20:43 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
I think sOs probably gets beaten a lot by Soulkey in teamhouse, so he got nervous in early matches, couple of bad mistakes made him flounder even more, so comes the multiple cheeses. And both probably didn't even practice for this series. Somehow I find that highly unlikely. It's likely because of their focus on SPL, usually they only get one day practice before GSL, or even just one stay up night. And also some players did that in BW individual league before also, forgot who, they said they agreed not to practice for each other before the matches, only general practice. And it's a teamkill, coach won't care at all. do you have a source for your first assertion? Many interviews from proleague players said similar things about short practice before GSL, especially when they have a SPL match on Monday or Tuesday, they don't get any practice time at all for individual league if they want to sleep. I don't watch TL interviews, so I can't find them here. I read just about all the interviews and such statements feel are actually quite rare, I feel that such assertions are blown out of proportion and devalue GSL. It is not an assertion if there's evidence to support the statement (indirectly you stated so yourself). Kespa players are recruited and sponsored to play in pro league and that is their highest priority UNLESS the coach works with their player to accommodate practice time for an individual league which Kespa coaches have done and continue to do. How exactly was Charlie.Sheens factual comment intended to "devalue the GSL"? I can agree with you if the two leagues had identical map pools but evidently they don't. The point is where is the evidence?? Just because you keep saying there is evidence doesn't make it true. Just link it. Read Flashes interview. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397250 I think its pretty unfair to compare a ro48 code A match interview to WCS GSL semi finals. Not to mention that WJS is pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot already and can afford to have two of their players focus on GSL a while. Plus, proleague total prize money is what, 250k? These guys are not making top dollar playing for their teams, and a WCS season win plus a shot the finals and the grand finals, and I'm pretty sure they're gonna care. The matches were weird, but that sometimes just happens in ZvP and them being teammates makes that all the more likely.
But I think the biggest undeclared incentives come from the corporate team sponsors in Proleague, right? If you factor that in, Proleague might just have more weight.
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On May 21 2013 23:40 largehadroncollider wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 22:46 Derez wrote:On May 21 2013 21:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:28 kheldorin wrote:On May 21 2013 21:26 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:00 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:58 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:55 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:46 Bagi wrote:
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Somehow I find that highly unlikely. It's likely because of their focus on SPL, usually they only get one day practice before GSL, or even just one stay up night. And also some players did that in BW individual league before also, forgot who, they said they agreed not to practice for each other before the matches, only general practice. And it's a teamkill, coach won't care at all. do you have a source for your first assertion? Many interviews from proleague players said similar things about short practice before GSL, especially when they have a SPL match on Monday or Tuesday, they don't get any practice time at all for individual league if they want to sleep. I don't watch TL interviews, so I can't find them here. I read just about all the interviews and such statements feel are actually quite rare, I feel that such assertions are blown out of proportion and devalue GSL. It is not an assertion if there's evidence to support the statement (indirectly you stated so yourself). Kespa players are recruited and sponsored to play in pro league and that is their highest priority UNLESS the coach works with their player to accommodate practice time for an individual league which Kespa coaches have done and continue to do. How exactly was Charlie.Sheens factual comment intended to "devalue the GSL"? I can agree with you if the two leagues had identical map pools but evidently they don't. The point is where is the evidence?? Just because you keep saying there is evidence doesn't make it true. Just link it. Read Flashes interview. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397250 I think its pretty unfair to compare a ro48 code A match interview to WCS GSL semi finals. Not to mention that WJS is pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot already and can afford to have two of their players focus on GSL a while. Plus, proleague total prize money is what, 250k? These guys are not making top dollar playing for their teams, and a WCS season win plus a shot the finals and the grand finals, and I'm pretty sure they're gonna care. The matches were weird, but that sometimes just happens in ZvP and them being teammates makes that all the more likely. But I think the biggest undeclared incentives come from the corporate team sponsors in Proleague, right? If you factor that in, Proleague might just have more weight.
i'm sure they give similar bonuses for GSL as well - iirc roro got a crapton of swag for his last GSL victory
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On May 21 2013 23:41 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 23:40 largehadroncollider wrote:On May 21 2013 22:46 Derez wrote:On May 21 2013 21:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:28 kheldorin wrote:On May 21 2013 21:26 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:00 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:58 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:55 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
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It's likely because of their focus on SPL, usually they only get one day practice before GSL, or even just one stay up night.
And also some players did that in BW individual league before also, forgot who, they said they agreed not to practice for each other before the matches, only general practice. And it's a teamkill, coach won't care at all. do you have a source for your first assertion? Many interviews from proleague players said similar things about short practice before GSL, especially when they have a SPL match on Monday or Tuesday, they don't get any practice time at all for individual league if they want to sleep. I don't watch TL interviews, so I can't find them here. I read just about all the interviews and such statements feel are actually quite rare, I feel that such assertions are blown out of proportion and devalue GSL. It is not an assertion if there's evidence to support the statement (indirectly you stated so yourself). Kespa players are recruited and sponsored to play in pro league and that is their highest priority UNLESS the coach works with their player to accommodate practice time for an individual league which Kespa coaches have done and continue to do. How exactly was Charlie.Sheens factual comment intended to "devalue the GSL"? I can agree with you if the two leagues had identical map pools but evidently they don't. The point is where is the evidence?? Just because you keep saying there is evidence doesn't make it true. Just link it. Read Flashes interview. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397250 I think its pretty unfair to compare a ro48 code A match interview to WCS GSL semi finals. Not to mention that WJS is pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot already and can afford to have two of their players focus on GSL a while. Plus, proleague total prize money is what, 250k? These guys are not making top dollar playing for their teams, and a WCS season win plus a shot the finals and the grand finals, and I'm pretty sure they're gonna care. The matches were weird, but that sometimes just happens in ZvP and them being teammates makes that all the more likely. But I think the biggest undeclared incentives come from the corporate team sponsors in Proleague, right? If you factor that in, Proleague might just have more weight. i'm sure they give similar bonuses for GSL as well - iirc roro got a crapton of swag for his last GSL victory
and a sign made by Zealously
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On May 21 2013 23:41 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 23:40 largehadroncollider wrote:On May 21 2013 22:46 Derez wrote:On May 21 2013 21:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:28 kheldorin wrote:On May 21 2013 21:26 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:00 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:58 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:55 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
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It's likely because of their focus on SPL, usually they only get one day practice before GSL, or even just one stay up night.
And also some players did that in BW individual league before also, forgot who, they said they agreed not to practice for each other before the matches, only general practice. And it's a teamkill, coach won't care at all. do you have a source for your first assertion? Many interviews from proleague players said similar things about short practice before GSL, especially when they have a SPL match on Monday or Tuesday, they don't get any practice time at all for individual league if they want to sleep. I don't watch TL interviews, so I can't find them here. I read just about all the interviews and such statements feel are actually quite rare, I feel that such assertions are blown out of proportion and devalue GSL. It is not an assertion if there's evidence to support the statement (indirectly you stated so yourself). Kespa players are recruited and sponsored to play in pro league and that is their highest priority UNLESS the coach works with their player to accommodate practice time for an individual league which Kespa coaches have done and continue to do. How exactly was Charlie.Sheens factual comment intended to "devalue the GSL"? I can agree with you if the two leagues had identical map pools but evidently they don't. The point is where is the evidence?? Just because you keep saying there is evidence doesn't make it true. Just link it. Read Flashes interview. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397250 I think its pretty unfair to compare a ro48 code A match interview to WCS GSL semi finals. Not to mention that WJS is pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot already and can afford to have two of their players focus on GSL a while. Plus, proleague total prize money is what, 250k? These guys are not making top dollar playing for their teams, and a WCS season win plus a shot the finals and the grand finals, and I'm pretty sure they're gonna care. The matches were weird, but that sometimes just happens in ZvP and them being teammates makes that all the more likely. But I think the biggest undeclared incentives come from the corporate team sponsors in Proleague, right? If you factor that in, Proleague might just have more weight. i'm sure they give similar bonuses for GSL as well - iirc roro got a crapton of swag for his last GSL victory
You have no idea what you're talking about. KeSPA teams get the big money for Proleague, individual leagues are barely allowed.
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On May 21 2013 23:52 Gorribal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 23:41 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 23:40 largehadroncollider wrote:On May 21 2013 22:46 Derez wrote:On May 21 2013 21:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:28 kheldorin wrote:On May 21 2013 21:26 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:00 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:58 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:55 opterown wrote:
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do you have a source for your first assertion? Many interviews from proleague players said similar things about short practice before GSL, especially when they have a SPL match on Monday or Tuesday, they don't get any practice time at all for individual league if they want to sleep. I don't watch TL interviews, so I can't find them here. I read just about all the interviews and such statements feel are actually quite rare, I feel that such assertions are blown out of proportion and devalue GSL. It is not an assertion if there's evidence to support the statement (indirectly you stated so yourself). Kespa players are recruited and sponsored to play in pro league and that is their highest priority UNLESS the coach works with their player to accommodate practice time for an individual league which Kespa coaches have done and continue to do. How exactly was Charlie.Sheens factual comment intended to "devalue the GSL"? I can agree with you if the two leagues had identical map pools but evidently they don't. The point is where is the evidence?? Just because you keep saying there is evidence doesn't make it true. Just link it. Read Flashes interview. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397250 I think its pretty unfair to compare a ro48 code A match interview to WCS GSL semi finals. Not to mention that WJS is pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot already and can afford to have two of their players focus on GSL a while. Plus, proleague total prize money is what, 250k? These guys are not making top dollar playing for their teams, and a WCS season win plus a shot the finals and the grand finals, and I'm pretty sure they're gonna care. The matches were weird, but that sometimes just happens in ZvP and them being teammates makes that all the more likely. But I think the biggest undeclared incentives come from the corporate team sponsors in Proleague, right? If you factor that in, Proleague might just have more weight. i'm sure they give similar bonuses for GSL as well - iirc roro got a crapton of swag for his last GSL victory You have no idea what you're talking about. KeSPA teams get the big money for Proleague, individual leagues are barely allowed.
you're very rude, and i'm quite sure roro received significant bonuses for his recent GSL win
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Well really weird for Soulkey to drop games 4, 5 and 6 after being so dominant in the first 3 games. After watching a few of the games I must say sOs was not in form today
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On May 21 2013 23:10 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 21:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:28 kheldorin wrote:On May 21 2013 21:26 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 21 2013 21:00 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:58 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:55 opterown wrote:On May 21 2013 20:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On May 21 2013 20:46 Bagi wrote:On May 21 2013 20:43 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
I think sOs probably gets beaten a lot by Soulkey in teamhouse, so he got nervous in early matches, couple of bad mistakes made him flounder even more, so comes the multiple cheeses. And both probably didn't even practice for this series. Somehow I find that highly unlikely. It's likely because of their focus on SPL, usually they only get one day practice before GSL, or even just one stay up night. And also some players did that in BW individual league before also, forgot who, they said they agreed not to practice for each other before the matches, only general practice. And it's a teamkill, coach won't care at all. do you have a source for your first assertion? Many interviews from proleague players said similar things about short practice before GSL, especially when they have a SPL match on Monday or Tuesday, they don't get any practice time at all for individual league if they want to sleep. I don't watch TL interviews, so I can't find them here. I read just about all the interviews and such statements feel are actually quite rare, I feel that such assertions are blown out of proportion and devalue GSL. It is not an assertion if there's evidence to support the statement (indirectly you stated so yourself). Kespa players are recruited and sponsored to play in pro league and that is their highest priority UNLESS the coach works with their player to accommodate practice time for an individual league which Kespa coaches have done and continue to do. How exactly was Charlie.Sheens factual comment intended to "devalue the GSL"? I can agree with you if the two leagues had identical map pools but evidently they don't. The point is where is the evidence?? Just because you keep saying there is evidence doesn't make it true. Just link it. Read Flashes interview. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397250 Is it coincidence that Flash's performances in PL often went down while he was deep in M/OSL? And even ignoring that, I believe Flash in particular has commented on this in a GSL interview, saying that GSL is his top priority.
I didn't notice that about Flash...
The KeSPA players sure take GSL much more seriously now than they did before when they didn't seem to care what so ever, but how they value PL vs GSL is impossible to know. For Stars, the fact that they are already so far ahead in PL probably changes a lot.
On May 21 2013 23:05 NicksonReyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 22:59 massivez wrote:
Did Soulkey and Innovation ever clash in BW in like a tournament setting? How would you compare their skill lvl in BW. Only met in PL. Soulkey is much better in BW than Bogus. Soulkey was already fighting against Zero for Stars' ace position while Bogus was just starting to establish himself as a solid STX terran.
True, SK had been a monster for some time at the time of the switch, but Bogus became really solid at the end of BW too and even was the STX ace a couple of times.
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I thought it was common knowledge that Kespa teams place Proleague ahead of any individual leagues.
To say that they didn't practice at all for the semi's however is ludicrous. sOs used the same build 3 games in a row (stargate -> robo -> expand). He would've practiced this build specifically for Soulkey, considering how vastly different his builds were from his series with Kangho.
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SOULKEY MA BOYYYY MAKING MY PREDICTIONS COME TRUEEE! if BoGus makes the finals i told all ya'll baby i told all ya'll (called it during WoL)
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I found most of the games in this series a bit weird tbh but entertaining all the same. The Kespa players are certainly making for some different styled matches. Looking forward to the final with hopefully (and most likely) Innovation.
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On May 21 2013 23:05 NicksonReyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 22:59 massivez wrote:
Did Soulkey and Innovation ever clash in BW in like a tournament setting? How would you compare their skill lvl in BW. Only met in PL. Soulkey is much better in BW than Bogus. Soulkey was already fighting against Zero for Stars' ace position while Bogus was just starting to establish himself as a solid STX terran.
"starting to establish himself" He ranked top 25 on official Kespa rankings for the last two years of BW, I think he was already pretty established. Soulkey was better but to say "much better" seems a little off and disrespectful.
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