Making muta for no reason (after delaying 3rd for so long and killing off sentries making a transition to colosus nearly impossible)
Leaving swarm hosts naked when he had roach+ling+queen+spines else where
Trying to deal with cannon rush with ...drones

Epic throw from Soulkey

gobbledydook

Australia2605 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1006

On May 21 2013 20:02 Ghanburighan wrote:
How the fuck are the last 3 games recommended?! Are people trolling vod viewers?

I like cannon rushes.

Wintex

Norway16838 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1007

On May 21 2013 19:53 Veroleg wrote:

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On May 21 2013 19:37 Wintex wrote:

On May 21 2013 19:35 Veroleg wrote:

On May 21 2013 19:17 Wintex wrote:

On May 21 2013 19:14 Veroleg wrote:

On May 21 2013 19:05 Wintex wrote:

On May 21 2013 19:01 Veroleg wrote:

On May 21 2013 18:53 Wintex wrote:
Innovation doesn't really amaze me as much, but his mastery of the basic concepts of matchups is great. His macro is not Bomber level, and micro is not MKP-primetime level, but he knows what to do at all times and knows how to control the game in sick ways. Strongest terran, but I don't see the "unfairness" like when Bomber just has more stuff cause fuck you, or when the micro of a terran just fuckin overcomes the stupidest odds (not because of shitty play from a Z or P)

Soulkey just reads games insanely well. Fuck, it almost blows me away.

bomber could not even compete in a much more skillfull game when he wasnt 24+y old. no his macro is not comparable to bogus, i dont know where you would get that idea

His macro is superior, to be honest. I'm biased, but he is. Problem is he dies way too often because he doesn't scout, compared to Innovation who is great at it. Or he doesn't perform to his usual standards.

nothing of his is superior. he was a bteamer when he was at his peak and now hes 24+. its not close and i dont havea clue where you got this idea from

Different game is different. His macro is nothing short of godly. He gets more units out of everything for no apparent reason. Too bad his decision making is WORSE than INnoVation's is. Let's not derail the thread.

then dont come up with random statements. yes that was a long time ago, and now hes 24+. just about nobody in the history of sc has been better at 24 than 20. yes im sure bomber went from complete bteamer to better macro and mechanics than a top3 in the world. as i said, where would you even get this idea? im suspecting trolling. a source would be helpful if youre going to keep claiming this

You didn't watch StarCraft games with Bomber the last 3 years. Please go away. People have been better after aging (NesTea got to shine), and more. You are claiming a lot without backing your statements either.

Multiple second-fourth place finishes, MLG win and a Code A win vs Mvp are no small feats.

what do you mean? ive watched sc2 since start. what crazy ideas am i claiming without backing up?
why are you listing results?

Cause it's obvious how good Bomber is when he doesn't bungle it. The macro is on point. Micro is worse, but his ideas are backed up by macro unmatched. Have you ever analyzed his play or seen it and gone through it, comparing it to others? IT IS INSANE. You are just denying it. INnoVation forgets to macro some times. Arguably, his style is way more micro intensive and perfecting it might be harder. I don't really see that part of godliness, but the other parts are fucking phenomenal.

Go watch Bomber versus any protoss. That matchup is a slaughter for him if he gets to the midgame 90% of the time.

liberate71

Australia10252 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1008

On May 21 2013 20:01 HandA711 wrote:
Both have 7 range. What outrange are you talking about???

I think they were confusing them with bunkers

rothsbury

Australia1654 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1009

I was pretty sure that spine crawlers and cannons both had range 7... yet soulkey was trying to find the sweet spot by burrowing and unburrowing his spinecrawlers, so maybe there's some weird angle or something? Or we could just go with the simplest and most plausible explanation (matchfixing).

Abominous

Croatia1625 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1010

On May 21 2013 20:02 primal wrote:
tbh anything else than, Innovation - soulkey final would be disappointing !!

Haven't you heard? Tastosis think that sOs is the only one who can pose a threat to mighty Innovation in the finals!!!

For all we know, he might not even be there, but hey!

mycro

Sweden1579 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1011

cmon cannon city!

eGoRama

Bulgaria1542 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1012

I am trying to remember RO4 which is worse than this one now. Anyone care to help

Fionn

United States23455 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1013

Inn- Insanely good opponent!

Toadvine

Poland2234 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1014

Getting flashbacks of Seed vs Symbol Ro8. Although that series was actually quite good overall.

_Galad_

Greece184 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1015

Aleksey Krupnyk ‏@WhiteRaSC 2m

This is ro4 GSL ?

)))

Hahaha <3 WhiteRa

kheldorin

Singapore539 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1016

well if the semi-finals are disappointing...does that mean that for once the GSL finals would be exciting?

Ahelvin

France1866 Posts

May 21 2013 11:03 GMT

#1017

On May 21 2013 20:02 Zealously wrote:
This is insane

I can't even believe what I'm seeing. This is almost like the matches are rigged (they are not rigged, OK? This is just the kind of situation one would not be surprised to see in a rigged matches scenario, but the matches are NOT rigged).