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EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
May 16 2013 10:30 GMT
#1121
I predict at least 3 nydus this game.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
May 16 2013 10:30 GMT
#1122
On May 16 2013 19:27 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:26 dcemuser wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:18 bo1b wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:17 THM wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:09 CarlosOmse wrote:
omfg what sick bullshit, absolutly nothing roro could do against these hellbats drops -.-


Of course there's nothing he can do. He has no tech, he did an ALLIN which failed partly due to his leaving part of his army go afk in the natural. If you allin and you fail you're way behind in tech and you're in deep shit. If those were Marine marauder drops or marine widow mine drops he'd still have a bad time and most likely lose. You don't just come back from having 0 tech vs a terran that has medivacs + hellbats or medivacs + stim or whatever.

43 WORKERS KILLED IS A FAILED ALL IN


yes, all-ins are supposed to win the game out right, especially this one.


No.

No, that's not how they work at all, lol. They're supposed to do enough damage (each build has a different threshold) to allow you to move into the next phase of the game with a favorable position.

There are almost no all-ins that REQUIRE the enemy player to be dead. If there were, they wouldn't be worth using.


I don't think you remember a little build called the "4-gate". Symbol 3-1 Bomber is my prediction, Bomber is going to throw some games like a baws as always.


4 gates never required the enemy to be dead... many a 4-gate game stabilized and went into the next phase of the game.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
May 16 2013 10:30 GMT
#1123
On May 16 2013 19:29 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:28 Blaec wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:25 Fionn wrote:
"Some other guy"

But I thought Tastosis watched GSTL all the time.


Oh come on, who knows that Monster changed his name to that?


Anyone who has watched MVP in GSTL this season.


I know Monster has been doing well, but I can't remember his stupid new name, I just remember how well Monster is doing.
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
May 16 2013 10:30 GMT
#1124
Innovation seems to be the one who makes Artosis curse invalid from now on.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
May 16 2013 10:30 GMT
#1125
On May 16 2013 19:27 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:26 dcemuser wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:18 bo1b wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:17 THM wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:09 CarlosOmse wrote:
omfg what sick bullshit, absolutly nothing roro could do against these hellbats drops -.-


Of course there's nothing he can do. He has no tech, he did an ALLIN which failed partly due to his leaving part of his army go afk in the natural. If you allin and you fail you're way behind in tech and you're in deep shit. If those were Marine marauder drops or marine widow mine drops he'd still have a bad time and most likely lose. You don't just come back from having 0 tech vs a terran that has medivacs + hellbats or medivacs + stim or whatever.

43 WORKERS KILLED IS A FAILED ALL IN


yes, all-ins are supposed to win the game out right, especially this one.


No.

No, that's not how they work at all, lol. They're supposed to do enough damage (each build has a different threshold) to allow you to move into the next phase of the game with a favorable position.

There are almost no all-ins that REQUIRE the enemy player to be dead. If there were, they wouldn't be worth using.


I don't think you remember a little build called the "4-gate". Symbol 3-1 Bomber is my prediction, Bomber is going to throw some games like a baws as always.

A 4gate bringing there opponent down to 6 workers and a few marauders should be a big enough advantage to win. There's a threshold for pretty much all the allins that arent 4 rax + pull everyworker in the name of our lord.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#1126
On May 16 2013 19:30 Lacke wrote:
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On May 16 2013 19:27 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:25 smogg wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:21 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:19 smogg wrote:
Welp, a patchzerg just got destroyed. Now let's see how a good zerg player actually plays vs terran.


yeah, that patchzerg that was good in brood war.

Sit down.

Yeah, so good, he almost reached Ro24 once in BroodWar. So good he had an almost 45% winrate in BroodWar. Sooooo good.. Now you sit down.


he's not a fucking "patchzerg".

there is no more "patch". It's HotS. He's in the ro8. Just go away already.



I don't know. He started performing really well after that spore buff.


Haha, yeah, like in 0 zvz, but still !
LiquipediaWanderer
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 10:32:08
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#1127
Puts down three barracks.

"Yeah I think it'll be marines." Tasteless 2013

On May 16 2013 19:30 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:27 las91 wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:26 dcemuser wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:18 bo1b wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:17 THM wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:09 CarlosOmse wrote:
omfg what sick bullshit, absolutly nothing roro could do against these hellbats drops -.-


Of course there's nothing he can do. He has no tech, he did an ALLIN which failed partly due to his leaving part of his army go afk in the natural. If you allin and you fail you're way behind in tech and you're in deep shit. If those were Marine marauder drops or marine widow mine drops he'd still have a bad time and most likely lose. You don't just come back from having 0 tech vs a terran that has medivacs + hellbats or medivacs + stim or whatever.

43 WORKERS KILLED IS A FAILED ALL IN


yes, all-ins are supposed to win the game out right, especially this one.


No.

No, that's not how they work at all, lol. They're supposed to do enough damage (each build has a different threshold) to allow you to move into the next phase of the game with a favorable position.

There are almost no all-ins that REQUIRE the enemy player to be dead. If there were, they wouldn't be worth using.


I don't think you remember a little build called the "4-gate". Symbol 3-1 Bomber is my prediction, Bomber is going to throw some games like a baws as always.

A 4gate bringing there opponent down to 6 workers and a few marauders should be a big enough advantage to win. There's a threshold for pretty much all the allins that arent 4 rax + pull everyworker in the name of our lord.


EDIT: Not in the sense of PvP 4 gates.
In Inca we trust
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#1128
Bomber: "My marines will blot out the sun!"
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#1129
On May 16 2013 19:26 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:25 Prog455 wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:22 bo1b wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:18 bo1b wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:17 THM wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:09 CarlosOmse wrote:
omfg what sick bullshit, absolutly nothing roro could do against these hellbats drops -.-


Of course there's nothing he can do. He has no tech, he did an ALLIN which failed partly due to his leaving part of his army go afk in the natural. If you allin and you fail you're way behind in tech and you're in deep shit. If those were Marine marauder drops or marine widow mine drops he'd still have a bad time and most likely lose. You don't just come back from having 0 tech vs a terran that has medivacs + hellbats or medivacs + stim or whatever.

43 WORKERS KILLED IS A FAILED ALL IN


yes, all-ins are supposed to win the game out right, especially this one.

All ins need to do enough damage to make it worth while. I'd argue that bringing someone down to 6 workers and 2 hellbats should be enough damage but thats just me.


I agree - that should be enough. In this game however, Innovation had an additional 4 Hellbats and 2 Medivacs going to town on Roro's almost undefended workers. If you take MULEs into consideration the worker difference was not significant.

3 mules equaling 30 workers is dumb. And my mistake on the count of hellbats.


Innovation had 6 workers and 2 MULES, and got a third shortly after the all-in was fended off. Roro had 21 workers, and got quite a few of them killed off by drops. If a MULE is worth 4 SCVs that's 18 SCVs to 21 Drones.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#1130
On May 16 2013 19:29 Ragnarork wrote:
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On May 16 2013 19:28 liberate71 wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:26 JazVM wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:25 liberate71 wrote:
Fuck look at Symbols stats! he beat Innovation 3:2 - is he the next Zerg Bonjourno


bonjovi


bon appétit?


Shit I can't stop laughing now..

Next zerg banjwarno.


ahahaha <3
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#1131
On May 16 2013 19:31 las91 wrote:
Puts down three barracks.

"Yeah I think it'll be marines." Tasteless 2013


Reapers man.... Errrm.
LiquipediaWanderer
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 10:35:05
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#1132
nvm
Diceman45
Profile Joined September 2012
United States27 Posts
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#1133
On May 16 2013 19:26 Absentia wrote:
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On May 16 2013 19:24 Diceman45 wrote:
Is anyone elses sound dropping constantly? It's getting pretty annoying...


Yes: are you using Chrome? I keep getting the message that shockwave has crashed.


Yeah, I'm using Chrome. Should I switch browsers?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#1134
On May 16 2013 19:30 butchji wrote:
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On May 16 2013 19:28 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:27 ZenithM wrote:
I don't think Symbol can beat Innovation, so I'll root for Bomber.
Just kidding. I would root for any random player against Symbol.


bogus has some shitty TvT, bomber wins he has a chance against him.


"shitty"

Can people just stop with exaggerations. arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


That game against Turn seemed pretty terrible :D
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 10:32:55
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#1135
On May 16 2013 19:30 butchji wrote:
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On May 16 2013 19:28 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:27 ZenithM wrote:
I don't think Symbol can beat Innovation, so I'll root for Bomber.
Just kidding. I would root for any random player against Symbol.


bogus has some shitty TvT, bomber wins he has a chance against him.


"shitty"

Can people just stop with exaggerations. arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr



but I enjoy annoying you.

and I need to get some hope for bomber.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
May 16 2013 10:32 GMT
#1136
On May 16 2013 19:30 Emuking wrote:
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On May 16 2013 19:25 Koshi wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:24 Emuking wrote:
i blame the MULE, lost all scvs but his production isnt halted like it would be for a zerg because MULEs still provide just enough income to keep making army units.

Is this 2010?


The Holocaust lasted 12 years, sometimes it takes awhile for people to realize, "We should probably do something about this."


No. No, it didn't last 12 years. 1941 till early 1945 is not 12 years. No.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 16 2013 10:32 GMT
#1137
On May 16 2013 19:30 Emuking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:25 Koshi wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:24 Emuking wrote:
i blame the MULE, lost all scvs but his production isnt halted like it would be for a zerg because MULEs still provide just enough income to keep making army units.

Is this 2010?


The Holocaust lasted 12 years, sometimes it takes awhile for people to realize, "We should probably do something about this."

... Did you just compare MULEs to the Holocaust?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
May 16 2013 10:32 GMT
#1138
On May 16 2013 19:30 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:29 Fionn wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:28 Blaec wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:25 Fionn wrote:
"Some other guy"

But I thought Tastosis watched GSTL all the time.


Oh come on, who knows that Monster changed his name to that?


Anyone who has watched MVP in GSTL this season.


I know Monster has been doing well, but I can't remember his stupid new name, I just remember how well Monster is doing.

It's reasonable to expect casters to know the players in their own leagues at least, especially the prominent ones.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
May 16 2013 10:32 GMT
#1139
Cheesemaster symbol
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
May 16 2013 10:32 GMT
#1140
On May 16 2013 19:31 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:30 Blaec wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:29 Fionn wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:28 Blaec wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:25 Fionn wrote:
"Some other guy"

But I thought Tastosis watched GSTL all the time.


Oh come on, who knows that Monster changed his name to that?


Anyone who has watched MVP in GSTL this season.


I know Monster has been doing well, but I can't remember his stupid new name, I just remember how well Monster is doing.

His "stupid new name" is his actual name...


Is it? TLPD says he is Tak Hyun Seung. How does that become nakseo?
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