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Nah
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland50 Posts
May 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#1561
I hope a loser offers a handshake in this round. BabyKnight I'm looking at you!
Protoss wins it all
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
May 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#1562
On May 16 2013 04:41 Soda-88 wrote:
I've always been baffled by winners going for a handshake, it's offensive to the loser no matter how you put it


If you are a little girl, it might be ...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#1563
[WCS EU] Ro16 Group B Premier
[image loading] (P)BabyKnight vs [image loading] (Z)VortiX
Game 1
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
BabyKnight spawns in the bottom right
VortiX spawns in the top left
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
May 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#1564
Shaun Clark ‏@ApolloSC2 7m
dat #WCS bar girl


haha apollo
yo
pwnz0r
Profile Joined August 2010
United States123 Posts
May 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#1565
Go Vortix!! Need some zergs to advance.
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
May 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#1566
On May 16 2013 04:41 Soda-88 wrote:
I've always been baffled by winners going for a handshake, it's offensive to the loser no matter how you put it


Exactly, but declining it isn't right either.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
May 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#1567
On May 16 2013 04:37 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:34 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
In defence of Naruto, I am pretty sure from my terrible sporting career and much watching that the expectation is of the loser offering their hand, rather than the winner.

Think of it as in playing ladder I guess, the loser is the one who ggs out, when the obvious winner does it it can smack of gloating (although I don't think that was the case in this instance)


That's not true at all. In tennis, basketball, fencing, debating, etc. I've always had both sides approach each other. We have several examples from the SC2 scene like Mvp going to console MKP. Just think about MLG games, the winner often went to the loser's booth to thank him for the games. It's supposed to be mutual. It's nothing like an offensive gg as the game is already finalized.


And we have seen pro players give other pro player space. I cannot remember who the opponent was, but someone wanted to shake hands with HerO but saw he was devastated by the loss, I think crying. So he left the booth again. You know Naniwa is rage / on tilt after that. Just give him his space. If he wants to shake hands, he'll do, otherwise just move on?



Naniwa didn't look anything like HerO. Sure, had Naniwa been crying or throwing a Hulk tantrum, yeah, Vortix should go there. But Naniwa looked perfectly normal. You cannot know what the other person is thinking inside, so it's still the right thing to do to thank them for the games in the traditional sportsmanlike way.

And I still haven't seen you apologize for calling Vortix BM, i.e., player bashing.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#1568
On May 16 2013 04:40 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:37 Type|NarutO wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:34 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
In defence of Naruto, I am pretty sure from my terrible sporting career and much watching that the expectation is of the loser offering their hand, rather than the winner.

Think of it as in playing ladder I guess, the loser is the one who ggs out, when the obvious winner does it it can smack of gloating (although I don't think that was the case in this instance)


That's not true at all. In tennis, basketball, fencing, debating, etc. I've always had both sides approach each other. We have several examples from the SC2 scene like Mvp going to console MKP. Just think about MLG games, the winner often went to the loser's booth to thank him for the games. It's supposed to be mutual. It's nothing like an offensive gg as the game is already finalized.


And we have seen pro players give other pro player space. I cannot remember who the opponent was, but someone wanted to shake hands with HerO but saw he was devastated by the loss, I think crying. So he left the booth again. You know Naniwa is rage / on tilt after that. Just give him his space. If he wants to shake hands, he'll do, otherwise just move on?


I'd have a bit more sympathy for someone who is sad about their loss than someone who's just pissed off.


Different people breed different emotion when losing. Naniwa is angry at himself, the game, everyone. HerO is sad. Who are you to judge about him? I am not even a Naniwa fanboy, I just stated my opinion but the Naniwa-hate-train unfortunately rolled me.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
May 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#1569
I never see people win with blink stalkers anymore, I really didn't want Naniwa to do that build.
pro toez
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
May 15 2013 19:43 GMT
#1570
On May 16 2013 04:39 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:39 Musicus wrote:
I can't believe people are actually discussing this, I saw so many of the most respected pros go over to their opponent offering a handshake after a win for years, how could this ever be considered BM.


haha yeah, boxer always went to his opponents booth to shake hands

no one ever once mentioned "bm"


haha yeah, I thought about adding that part, would naniwa dare to deny a handshake with boxer? would people consider boxer bm? I don't know kev...
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
May 15 2013 19:43 GMT
#1571
On May 16 2013 04:37 .maLice. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:32 Sc2Null wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:31 .maLice. wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:30 Doublemint wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:28 s3rp wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:25 .maLice. wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:23 Type|NarutO wrote:
I don't think the winner should approach the loser with the handshake, especially if its against Naniwa. I think it was actually not more bad mannered of Naniwa to not accept it compared to VortiX even going over. Not bashing VortiX here, just disagree with some people here.


At least over here in the states, when we're playing sports we act like men, and win or lose--we shake hands with our opponent..


It's still better if the loser is the one extended the handshake. If you do it as a winner it can be seen as an offensive GG if that makes any sense. I mean imagine you just lost and are really pissed and want to cool off for a moment and your opponent runs over to you with a big grin does that seem friendly ? For me it wouldn't seem like that.


this. also "we in the states act like men" - lost me after that to be honest.



Good for you, buddy.


I have to agree...You can't say "we in the states act like men" then expect people to take anything you say after that seriously.


Dude, how many times to I have to tell you people that it's just my opinion. I think that it's childish to get all upset and ill mannered toward your opponent after a game. I feel that accepting your loss and shaking your opponents hand is the thing to do as an adult (read:man). Every single sporting team I've ever been on (soccer, basketball, baseball) we shake hands. I can only talk from experience and therefore I said 'over here in the states'. I've never been to Europe so you cannot reasonably expect me to know every little customary detail..


I watch ALOT of US sports i've seen quite a few examples of hotheads that need to calm down and be left alot for a while a devastating losses . Some people take losses harder than others you should know and respect that. Is it a bit immature ? Maybe but you should know who you should approach and who you shouldn't after a loss.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
May 15 2013 19:43 GMT
#1572
On May 16 2013 04:42 Killmouse wrote:
Shaun Clark ‏@ApolloSC2 7m
dat #WCS bar girl


haha apollo



That's it, we need pictures here or stop talking about her D;
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 15 2013 19:43 GMT
#1573
On May 16 2013 04:42 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:37 Type|NarutO wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:34 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
In defence of Naruto, I am pretty sure from my terrible sporting career and much watching that the expectation is of the loser offering their hand, rather than the winner.

Think of it as in playing ladder I guess, the loser is the one who ggs out, when the obvious winner does it it can smack of gloating (although I don't think that was the case in this instance)


That's not true at all. In tennis, basketball, fencing, debating, etc. I've always had both sides approach each other. We have several examples from the SC2 scene like Mvp going to console MKP. Just think about MLG games, the winner often went to the loser's booth to thank him for the games. It's supposed to be mutual. It's nothing like an offensive gg as the game is already finalized.


And we have seen pro players give other pro player space. I cannot remember who the opponent was, but someone wanted to shake hands with HerO but saw he was devastated by the loss, I think crying. So he left the booth again. You know Naniwa is rage / on tilt after that. Just give him his space. If he wants to shake hands, he'll do, otherwise just move on?



Naniwa didn't look anything like HerO. Sure, had Naniwa been crying or throwing a Hulk tantrum, yeah, Vortix should go there. But Naniwa looked perfectly normal. You cannot know what the other person is thinking inside, so it's still the right thing to do to thank them for the games in the traditional sportsmanlike way.

And I still haven't seen you apologize for calling Vortix BM, i.e., player bashing.


I don't need to apologize for my opinion and I have never insulted anyone. I calmly said, that I find it just as bad mannered as refusing the handshake to initiate it as the winner. As do MorroW, ToD etc.. it seems. Should they apologize as well?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 15 2013 19:43 GMT
#1574
On May 16 2013 04:41 DoubleB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:41 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Vortix shamelessly trying to buy our hearts.

And now he got it, right?


But babbykay so cute
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
May 15 2013 19:44 GMT
#1575
rofl ppl calling handshakes unsportive...
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
May 15 2013 19:44 GMT
#1576
On May 16 2013 04:34 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:33 Crushinator wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:32 Sc2Null wrote:
love how this thread has turned into "is handshaking bm?"...isn't live report threads suppose to focus on the games not the players


Oh come on now you have over 3k posts, you aren't new here.

So TL is not better than Reddit after all eh?

Yes, imagine discussing something that happens and is thus relevant at the event that the live thread is covering? >_>
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YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
May 15 2013 19:44 GMT
#1577
On May 16 2013 04:42 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:40 YoungTyTy wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:37 Type|NarutO wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:34 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
In defence of Naruto, I am pretty sure from my terrible sporting career and much watching that the expectation is of the loser offering their hand, rather than the winner.

Think of it as in playing ladder I guess, the loser is the one who ggs out, when the obvious winner does it it can smack of gloating (although I don't think that was the case in this instance)


That's not true at all. In tennis, basketball, fencing, debating, etc. I've always had both sides approach each other. We have several examples from the SC2 scene like Mvp going to console MKP. Just think about MLG games, the winner often went to the loser's booth to thank him for the games. It's supposed to be mutual. It's nothing like an offensive gg as the game is already finalized.


And we have seen pro players give other pro player space. I cannot remember who the opponent was, but someone wanted to shake hands with HerO but saw he was devastated by the loss, I think crying. So he left the booth again. You know Naniwa is rage / on tilt after that. Just give him his space. If he wants to shake hands, he'll do, otherwise just move on?


I'd have a bit more sympathy for someone who is sad about their loss than someone who's just pissed off.


Different people breed different emotion when losing. Naniwa is angry at himself, the game, everyone. HerO is sad. Who are you to judge about him? I am not even a Naniwa fanboy, I just stated my opinion but the Naniwa-hate-train unfortunately rolled me.

Everyone is free to their own opinion. You as well as I.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
May 15 2013 19:44 GMT
#1578
On May 16 2013 04:43 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:42 Killmouse wrote:
Shaun Clark ‏@ApolloSC2 7m
dat #WCS bar girl


haha apollo



That's it, we need pictures here or stop talking about her D;

She was a rather hot nerdy-looking blond.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
May 15 2013 19:44 GMT
#1579
On May 16 2013 04:44 Strela wrote:
rofl ppl calling handshakes unsportive...


People called Redeye awkward when he was being entertaining yesterday. This community has some weird preferences.
Mellon
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden917 Posts
May 15 2013 19:44 GMT
#1580
On May 16 2013 04:43 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:39 nkr wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:39 Musicus wrote:
I can't believe people are actually discussing this, I saw so many of the most respected pros go over to their opponent offering a handshake after a win for years, how could this ever be considered BM.


haha yeah, boxer always went to his opponents booth to shake hands

no one ever once mentioned "bm"


haha yeah, I thought about adding that part, would naniwa dare to deny a handshake with boxer? would people consider boxer bm? I don't know kev...


He would, he doesn't care who the player is really You guys forgot Nestea already? He was a semi-god back in 2011!
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