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On May 09 2013 20:33 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 20:28 Yello wrote:Losira spawns in the bottom right soO spawns in the top left 0:00-4:00min Pool first, then Hatchery, then Extractor for both players 4:00-6:00min Speed and Baneling Nest started for both players, small Ling skirmishes without casualties soO starts a lot of Lings, Losira starts his Lair 6:00-8:00min lots and lots of Lings and Banes in production for soO Losira scouts them very late Losira tries to defend with a small amount of Lings, Banes and his Drones soO dodges the last Baneling of Losira and builds more Banelings himself soO loses most of his new Banes to 2 Banes of Losira and is forced to back off Losira goes for a small Ling-counter-attack but gets denied by soO's Lings and Banes
8:00-10:00min
Losira actually canceled his Lair and is now re-building it
soO goes for more Lings and Banes
Losira tries to get aggressive with a bunch of Lings and Banes while soO attacks Losira's natural with a few Lings
Both players are able to defend the attacks on their naturals
10:00-12:00min
more Banes morphing for both players, soO tries to get aggressive once again
Losira starts additional Spines and Extractors
soO attacks with lots of Lings and Banes and keeps producing more and more of them
This looks like game 1, only with the players swapping positions
soO keeps attacking with Lings and Banes, Losira defends with lots of Banes and Queens and Spines
Spire still not started for Losira....
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Will this game ever stabilize ? Will we ever get past T1 ?
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On May 09 2013 20:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
pls.die_soOn
:p
Hahahahaha! GG BR.
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even kespa baiters wont hype soo after tonight
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in a sloppy dumb way this is a cool game
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kinda reminds me of an UD mirror many years ago in war3. both players stayed on ghouls and fiends for literally like 45 minutes until someone dared to start teching to t2, then the game went on to t3 and they both made huge t3 armies complete with frost wyrms and shit. was fucking epic but i don't remember the players anymore =/
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On May 09 2013 20:33 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 20:31 Wintex wrote:On May 09 2013 20:30 Zheryn wrote:On May 09 2013 20:28 RogerChillingworth wrote:On May 09 2013 20:26 Jerom wrote:
Well, ZvZ is still a terrible match up... it will always be. you can't wall off early and if you go gasless you actually end up getting behind in economy. there are big design changes that can but won't be made. Which is why I wished mapmakers would do naturals like Planet S, Daybreak, Cloud Kingdom where it's possible to wall off atleast semi-early , but I always get hate when I suggest it. Immortal Sentry gets powerful then, doesn't it? I don't know, I think that's more up to the rest of the map layout, not just the layout of the natural.
also, on some maps, the distance between your natural hatchery and the ramp into your main is ridiculous. you need so much static d if you actually wanted to go that route, and there are still a number of all-ins that can do well.
the gasless style is my favorite for trying to avoid the early bullshit and just get to lair, but there are huge vulnerabilties and gaping holes. if the gasing player recognizes it, and its easy to recognize, you just get behind.
also, it often takes a creep tumor to be put down and then spread to the natural's ramp in order to wall off, if you wanted to. and by that point it's just too late.
and yes, immortal/sentry gets better when zvz gets better. it's just a lose-lose.
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These games have been acidic.
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Norway25712 Posts
I see Losira is doing well.
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Sounds like a tv show ~~~~!!
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51708 Posts
On May 09 2013 20:37 Dodgin wrote:
even kespa baiters wont hype soo after tonight
SKT fans never liked soo either anyway.
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Players going spire when behind is my least favourite thing about ZvZ
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Losira's mechanics are insane, but he derps way too often. He's like the MKP of Zerg.
Except I don't despise him
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On May 09 2013 20:38 Schelim wrote:
kinda reminds me of an UD mirror many years ago in war3. both players stayed on ghouls and fiends for literally like 45 minutes until someone dared to start teching to t2, then the game went on to t3 and they both made huge t3 armies complete with frost wyrms and shit. was fucking epic but i don't remember the players anymore =/
PM me this game if you ever find out.
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rematch time! 2hours per game please~
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Prime coach put something in his food? :p
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
good, now gumiho please wipe
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Norway25712 Posts
Hurrah! Final match could be good if Losira doesn't play... bad.
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It's over. 
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EPT
