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On May 05 2013 08:57 dddoushio wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 08:54 The Devastator wrote:On May 05 2013 08:46 Zebb wrote:On May 05 2013 08:39 dddoushio wrote:On May 05 2013 08:32 tenacity wrote:On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality. exactly my thoughts. i also support rich's tweet about the situation. Are you serious? Shafting two people that had nothing to do with it to fix a situation you CAUSED by having incompetent admins is acceptable? There is no right decision here, just less shitty ones. They should focus on hurting the least amount of people. There is a right decision, and they finally made it (thankfully). MLG and Miya screwed up and it caused Miya to get a match loss. End of story. There is no need to involve other players in the conversation at all. As soon as the first game following the screw-up was played there is no "fixing it." It's done. MLG needed to "own their own mistake" and just apologize/compensate/etc as best they can. There is no rolling back the bracket to fix an hours-old screwup (e.g. Hyun eliminating people after being DQ'd). It's scary to think that had Demu/Moose not threatened to forfeit that MLG would have made a really stupid call. NO! Miya did not do anything wrong! An admin stated the wrong time. If a fuck up like this happens the only logical thing to do is to roll back! It would not of unfairly hurt anyone, but forfeiting Miya (Who was screwed by an admin's fuckup) is hurting someone! It's not logical at all to hurt 2 players instead of 1 just because you're stupid and can't hire competent admins.
But you are not hurting the other players!
You would just end up in a place that was the same as if the admins did not fuck up.
On May 05 2013 09:01 templar rage wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 08:54 The Devastator wrote:On May 05 2013 08:46 Zebb wrote:On May 05 2013 08:39 dddoushio wrote:On May 05 2013 08:32 tenacity wrote:On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality. exactly my thoughts. i also support rich's tweet about the situation. Are you serious? Shafting two people that had nothing to do with it to fix a situation you CAUSED by having incompetent admins is acceptable? There is no right decision here, just less shitty ones. They should focus on hurting the least amount of people. There is a right decision, and they finally made it (thankfully). MLG and Miya screwed up and it caused Miya to get a match loss. End of story. There is no need to involve other players in the conversation at all. As soon as the first game following the screw-up was played there is no "fixing it." It's done. MLG needed to "own their own mistake" and just apologize/compensate/etc as best they can. There is no rolling back the bracket to fix an hours-old screwup (e.g. Hyun eliminating people after being DQ'd). It's scary to think that had Demu/Moose not threatened to forfeit that MLG would have made a really stupid call. NO! Miya did not do anything wrong! An admin stated the wrong time. If a fuck up like this happens the only logical thing to do is to roll back! It would not of unfairly hurt anyone, but forfeiting Miya (Who was screwed by an admin's fuckup) is hurting someone! If they put Miya back in winners, it hurts Moosegills because he was awarded a walkover win more than fairly and is having it voided. It also hurts Demuslim because he just wasted a bunch of time waiting and will have to waste more time for the match that was already resolved to happen. If you keep Miya in the loser's bracket where he belongs, you only kinda hurt Miya because it's not his fault entirely he's there, but that's still where he belongs in the tournament. Edit: You can't avoid hurting someone in a situation like this, so instead you aim to hurt as few people as possible. Putting Miya back in winner's definitely hurts more people than leaving him in losers.
But Moosegills does not have any right to the walkover!
He did not beat Miya! An admin lied to Miya and they unfairly gave him a loss!
Miya did not make any mistake and he did not lose to Moosegills, thus it is objectively wrong to say he belongs in the LB!
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On May 05 2013 09:02 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 09:01 StarVe wrote:On May 05 2013 08:57 Zarahtra wrote:On May 05 2013 08:56 trudodyr wrote:
Strange how Ian's wins are always given as 1-0s by MLG. They're just DQing all of his opponents so a chinese player makes it!  The twist: It turns out that he misspelled his account name when he registered and his nickname isn't Ian but LAN. MLG DQs him because there is no place for LAN in a Blizzard tournament. When MLG switches their ad screen to the skyline, people demonstrate on the streets shouting "We want Ian" Stop, you are killing me.
lol :D
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On May 05 2013 09:02 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 09:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What is Coach Park going to say to Zenio and JYP? To Zenio, Snute is replacing you, he's good enough for America Code S ro16, you're not good enough for America Code A. To JYP, stop touching yourself right before you play.
Meh JYP's still doing fairly ok-ish in ProLeague.
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On May 05 2013 09:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What is Coach Park going to say to Zenio and JYP?
They should livestream the spanking. 
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On May 05 2013 09:02 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 09:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What is Coach Park going to say to Zenio and JYP? To Zenio, Snute is replacing you, he's good enough for America Code S ro16, you're not good enough for America Code A.To JYP, stop touching yourself right before you play.
Ouch.....
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On May 05 2013 09:04 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 09:02 Dodgin wrote:On May 05 2013 09:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What is Coach Park going to say to Zenio and JYP? To Zenio, Snute is replacing you, he's good enough for America Code S ro16, you're not good enough for America Code A.To JYP, stop touching yourself right before you play. Ouch.....
Don't forget, Snute has also won 3 LANs. So in that sense, I'd say he had already replaced Zenio ;p
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On May 05 2013 08:54 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 08:54 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:51 grs wrote:On May 05 2013 08:48 Plansix wrote:On May 05 2013 08:44 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:36 Waxangel wrote:man, threatening to forfeit as your FIRST reaction is probably not a good way to ingratiate yourself to a tournament Funny how when it's an EG player you've got MLG's back hardcore but the second a TL player is inconvenienced you try to rally the community into witchhunting MLG. R1CH is also complaining that Gennia and TB aren't fighting for their players on twitter. The TL staff seems to love witch hints lately and making sure all dirty laundry is aired in public. TL staff is allowed an opinion too, even if they operate a big website, no? People are allowed to dislike their opinions and find them hypocritical even though they operate a big website, no? Sure, but the accusation in the post has nothing to do with having an opinion.
That I dont like the recent decisions to handle all disputes with MLG in public, even when it isn't their player. MLG dropped the ball, deal with it by email like professions, not on twitter.
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On May 05 2013 09:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:Miya 2-0 KawaiiRice   Miya vs   Top for Challenger
I'mma cheer up for TOP now :D GOGOGO!
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On May 05 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 08:54 grs wrote:On May 05 2013 08:54 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:51 grs wrote:On May 05 2013 08:48 Plansix wrote:On May 05 2013 08:44 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:36 Waxangel wrote:man, threatening to forfeit as your FIRST reaction is probably not a good way to ingratiate yourself to a tournament Funny how when it's an EG player you've got MLG's back hardcore but the second a TL player is inconvenienced you try to rally the community into witchhunting MLG. R1CH is also complaining that Gennia and TB aren't fighting for their players on twitter. The TL staff seems to love witch hints lately and making sure all dirty laundry is aired in public. TL staff is allowed an opinion too, even if they operate a big website, no? People are allowed to dislike their opinions and find them hypocritical even though they operate a big website, no? Sure, but the accusation in the post has nothing to do with having an opinion. That I dont like the recent decisions to handle all disputes with MLG in public, even when it isn't their player. MLG dropped the ball, deal with it by email like professions, not on twitter.
That's not nearly ESPORTS enough
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On May 05 2013 09:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:Miya 2-0 KawaiiRice Miya vs Top for Challenger
Go Miya!
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On May 05 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 08:54 grs wrote:On May 05 2013 08:54 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:51 grs wrote:On May 05 2013 08:48 Plansix wrote:On May 05 2013 08:44 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:36 Waxangel wrote:man, threatening to forfeit as your FIRST reaction is probably not a good way to ingratiate yourself to a tournament Funny how when it's an EG player you've got MLG's back hardcore but the second a TL player is inconvenienced you try to rally the community into witchhunting MLG. R1CH is also complaining that Gennia and TB aren't fighting for their players on twitter. The TL staff seems to love witch hints lately and making sure all dirty laundry is aired in public. TL staff is allowed an opinion too, even if they operate a big website, no? People are allowed to dislike their opinions and find them hypocritical even though they operate a big website, no? Sure, but the accusation in the post has nothing to do with having an opinion. That I dont like the recent decisions to handle all disputes with MLG in public, even when it isn't their player. MLG dropped the ball, deal with it by email like professions, not on twitter.
Well, it depends, if you're staff of TL the site, not TL the team then why would you act as if you're a part of the team?
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There are actually a lot of local players doing well here which is nice to see.
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On May 05 2013 09:07 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:On May 05 2013 08:54 grs wrote:On May 05 2013 08:54 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:51 grs wrote:On May 05 2013 08:48 Plansix wrote:On May 05 2013 08:44 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:36 Waxangel wrote:man, threatening to forfeit as your FIRST reaction is probably not a good way to ingratiate yourself to a tournament Funny how when it's an EG player you've got MLG's back hardcore but the second a TL player is inconvenienced you try to rally the community into witchhunting MLG. R1CH is also complaining that Gennia and TB aren't fighting for their players on twitter. The TL staff seems to love witch hints lately and making sure all dirty laundry is aired in public. TL staff is allowed an opinion too, even if they operate a big website, no? People are allowed to dislike their opinions and find them hypocritical even though they operate a big website, no? Sure, but the accusation in the post has nothing to do with having an opinion. That I dont like the recent decisions to handle all disputes with MLG in public, even when it isn't their player. MLG dropped the ball, deal with it by email like professions, not on twitter. That's not nearly ESPORTS enough
All rules disputes will be handled on twitter from now on. Rulings made my witch hunt on reddit
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On May 05 2013 09:02 The Devastator wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 08:57 dddoushio wrote:On May 05 2013 08:54 The Devastator wrote:On May 05 2013 08:46 Zebb wrote:On May 05 2013 08:39 dddoushio wrote:On May 05 2013 08:32 tenacity wrote:On May 05 2013 08:28 Canucklehead wrote:
The situation was messy, but I think miya should have been put back in the winner's bracket if mlg told him the wrong time. I wouldn't want to advance due to a technicality and would rather earn it. Demuslim/Moose took the easy way out by trying to forfeit and forcing this situation to happen. Moose should have played miya and demu play the winner of that so people don't advance due to a technicality. I would feel a lot better earning it the right way if I was in their situation, rather than through a technicality. exactly my thoughts. i also support rich's tweet about the situation. Are you serious? Shafting two people that had nothing to do with it to fix a situation you CAUSED by having incompetent admins is acceptable? There is no right decision here, just less shitty ones. They should focus on hurting the least amount of people. There is a right decision, and they finally made it (thankfully). MLG and Miya screwed up and it caused Miya to get a match loss. End of story. There is no need to involve other players in the conversation at all. As soon as the first game following the screw-up was played there is no "fixing it." It's done. MLG needed to "own their own mistake" and just apologize/compensate/etc as best they can. There is no rolling back the bracket to fix an hours-old screwup (e.g. Hyun eliminating people after being DQ'd). It's scary to think that had Demu/Moose not threatened to forfeit that MLG would have made a really stupid call. NO! Miya did not do anything wrong! An admin stated the wrong time. If a fuck up like this happens the only logical thing to do is to roll back! It would not of unfairly hurt anyone, but forfeiting Miya (Who was screwed by an admin's fuckup) is hurting someone! It's not logical at all to hurt 2 players instead of 1 just because you're stupid and can't hire competent admins. But you are not hurting the other players! You would just end up in a place that was the same as if the admins did not fuck up.
Moose had to wait 2 hours for Miya, Demuslim had to wait an hour (and would have to wait again for Miya to play his series) and both would be severely hurting their chances at qualifying by not only playing tired, but also by just allowing a new player into the bracket. It's not fair that Miya didn't get to play, sure, but it's also not fair to hurt Demu and Moose.
This is not Miya's or Demu's or Moose's fault, it's MLG's and MLG is the only one that should get hurt by it.
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I've just tuned in and this is probably going to sound weird, but does the guy with Axslav remind anyone else of the hollywood actor? I can't remember what films he was in or what his name is, but he looks very similar to this guy I'm picturing in my head.
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On May 05 2013 09:10 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 09:07 Dodgin wrote:On May 05 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:On May 05 2013 08:54 grs wrote:On May 05 2013 08:54 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:51 grs wrote:On May 05 2013 08:48 Plansix wrote:On May 05 2013 08:44 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:36 Waxangel wrote:man, threatening to forfeit as your FIRST reaction is probably not a good way to ingratiate yourself to a tournament Funny how when it's an EG player you've got MLG's back hardcore but the second a TL player is inconvenienced you try to rally the community into witchhunting MLG. R1CH is also complaining that Gennia and TB aren't fighting for their players on twitter. The TL staff seems to love witch hints lately and making sure all dirty laundry is aired in public. TL staff is allowed an opinion too, even if they operate a big website, no? People are allowed to dislike their opinions and find them hypocritical even though they operate a big website, no? Sure, but the accusation in the post has nothing to do with having an opinion. That I dont like the recent decisions to handle all disputes with MLG in public, even when it isn't their player. MLG dropped the ball, deal with it by email like professions, not on twitter. That's not nearly ESPORTS enough All rules disputes will be handled on twitter from now on. Rulings made my witch hunt on reddit
Now you're getting it.
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On May 05 2013 09:10 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 09:07 Dodgin wrote:On May 05 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:On May 05 2013 08:54 grs wrote:On May 05 2013 08:54 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:51 grs wrote:On May 05 2013 08:48 Plansix wrote:On May 05 2013 08:44 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 05 2013 08:36 Waxangel wrote:man, threatening to forfeit as your FIRST reaction is probably not a good way to ingratiate yourself to a tournament Funny how when it's an EG player you've got MLG's back hardcore but the second a TL player is inconvenienced you try to rally the community into witchhunting MLG. R1CH is also complaining that Gennia and TB aren't fighting for their players on twitter. The TL staff seems to love witch hints lately and making sure all dirty laundry is aired in public. TL staff is allowed an opinion too, even if they operate a big website, no? People are allowed to dislike their opinions and find them hypocritical even though they operate a big website, no? Sure, but the accusation in the post has nothing to do with having an opinion. That I dont like the recent decisions to handle all disputes with MLG in public, even when it isn't their player. MLG dropped the ball, deal with it by email like professions, not on twitter. That's not nearly ESPORTS enough All rules disputes will be handled on twitter from now on. Rulings made my witch hunt on reddit
Retweets detemine next victim, upvotes decide on guilt.
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