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nickbalev
Profile Joined March 2011
Bulgaria241 Posts
April 23 2013 14:52 GMT
#41
that game did not disappoint i was sure he was so dead
noipe
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
April 23 2013 14:52 GMT
#42
alicia jesus.
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 23 2013 14:53 GMT
#43
These games remind me how good alicia was before the slayers debacle.
Terran & Potato Salad.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 23 2013 14:53 GMT
#44
Gotta love how people took me out of context in the first place. I said putting a few phoenixes into the mix is very helpful against Hydras and suddenly a couple of people are claiming I said "Phoenix hard counter mass hydra".
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 23 2013 14:53 GMT
#45
On April 23 2013 23:51 Dodgin wrote:
Sage must not have realized the only way Alicia was possibly going to win the game from that position where he was only alive because of nexus cannon was because he had a DT shrine building

Wasn't it building in clear view of his stalkers?

nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
April 23 2013 14:53 GMT
#46
On April 23 2013 23:53 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
These games remind me how good alicia was before the slayers debacle.


axiom should pick up coca as well... miss him.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
April 23 2013 14:53 GMT
#47
On April 23 2013 23:53 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
These games remind me how good alicia was before the slayers debacle.

I think it's also the gap between a lower tier pro and an upper tier one.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 23 2013 14:54 GMT
#48
On April 23 2013 23:53 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
These games remind me how good alicia was before the slayers debacle.

and now that he can actually beat zergs in HoTS maybe he can compete for some decent money in WCS NA
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 23 2013 14:54 GMT
#49
On April 23 2013 23:53 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:51 Dodgin wrote:
Sage must not have realized the only way Alicia was possibly going to win the game from that position where he was only alive because of nexus cannon was because he had a DT shrine building

Wasn't it building in clear view of his stalkers?



That's even worse if true -_- I imagine he didn't see it, but I know the #1 thing going through my head at that moment when I'm just waiting for nexus cannon to end to move in and end the game is to get detection just in case.
Yunarc
Profile Joined March 2011
United States314 Posts
April 23 2013 14:55 GMT
#50
On April 23 2013 23:53 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:51 Dodgin wrote:
Sage must not have realized the only way Alicia was possibly going to win the game from that position where he was only alive because of nexus cannon was because he had a DT shrine building

Wasn't it building in clear view of his stalkers?


I think so, but he did build oracles to detect, but he needed them with his stalkers and could not afford to have one in his main
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
April 23 2013 14:55 GMT
#51
On April 23 2013 23:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Gotta love how people took me out of context in the first place. I said putting a few phoenixes into the mix is very helpful against Hydras and suddenly a couple of people are claiming I said "Phoenix hard counter mass hydra".



I feel sorry for casters in general, too many people trying to shoot them down with hate. Keep up the good work TB !!!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 23 2013 14:57 GMT
#52
On April 23 2013 23:55 Yunarc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:53 AxionSteel wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:51 Dodgin wrote:
Sage must not have realized the only way Alicia was possibly going to win the game from that position where he was only alive because of nexus cannon was because he had a DT shrine building

Wasn't it building in clear view of his stalkers?


I think so, but he did build oracles to detect, but he needed them with his stalkers and could not afford to have one in his main

yeh but he could've built the oracles earlier. If the building was where i think it was, he could've even built a robo in time. Maybe he thought it was a pylon or something as it was in that kind of position.
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
April 23 2013 14:58 GMT
#53
On April 23 2013 23:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:43 Roqshu wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:34 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:30 kubiks wrote:
Ahah TB is funny to listen : "you can add phenix to counter hydras"


Because I'm right, you can.

Anyone who thinks hydras actually counter phoenix is completely wrong.


Oh boy.
You can pick up hydras in very small numbers, but as soon as the zerg commits to larger numbers of hydras, phoenixes die faster than you can pick up any hydras.
So yes, Hydras counter phoenix.


It all depends on numbers. If the Zerg has more than twice as many hydras as there are phoenixes, of course you're going to witness a massacre. But if the numbers are comparable, and the Protoss has pretty good micro, he will most likely win the fight. Sure, with fairly heavy losses, but he wins it. Phoenixes are both more durable, more mobile and have higher dps compared to hydras.


Yeah, but here it was in the context of "I'm going for mass vr, maybe get some phenix to counter hydras"
Anyway I think phenix openings are the strongest openings a protoss can do, but seeing them as a "support unit to counter hydra" sounds wierd.
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 23 2013 14:58 GMT
#54
On April 23 2013 23:54 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:53 AxionSteel wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:51 Dodgin wrote:
Sage must not have realized the only way Alicia was possibly going to win the game from that position where he was only alive because of nexus cannon was because he had a DT shrine building

Wasn't it building in clear view of his stalkers?



That's even worse if true -_- I imagine he didn't see it, but I know the #1 thing going through my head at that moment when I'm just waiting for nexus cannon to end to move in and end the game is to get detection just in case.

I did just catch all of the end there but wasn't this what he was doing? I though he had an oracle building while he waited for the nexus canon to end? Maybe he didn't move in fast enough.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Yunarc
Profile Joined March 2011
United States314 Posts
April 23 2013 14:59 GMT
#55
On April 23 2013 23:57 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:55 Yunarc wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:53 AxionSteel wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:51 Dodgin wrote:
Sage must not have realized the only way Alicia was possibly going to win the game from that position where he was only alive because of nexus cannon was because he had a DT shrine building

Wasn't it building in clear view of his stalkers?


I think so, but he did build oracles to detect, but he needed them with his stalkers and could not afford to have one in his main

yeh but he could've built the oracles earlier. If the building was where i think it was, he could've even built a robo in time. Maybe he thought it was a pylon or something as it was in that kind of position.

Yeah not sure what he was thinking
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 23 2013 14:59 GMT
#56
so did YugiOh decide to not change his ID after all or did he just not come up with something new, yet?
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 23 2013 15:00 GMT
#57
On April 23 2013 23:58 kubiks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:43 Roqshu wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:34 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:30 kubiks wrote:
Ahah TB is funny to listen : "you can add phenix to counter hydras"


Because I'm right, you can.

Anyone who thinks hydras actually counter phoenix is completely wrong.


Oh boy.
You can pick up hydras in very small numbers, but as soon as the zerg commits to larger numbers of hydras, phoenixes die faster than you can pick up any hydras.
So yes, Hydras counter phoenix.


It all depends on numbers. If the Zerg has more than twice as many hydras as there are phoenixes, of course you're going to witness a massacre. But if the numbers are comparable, and the Protoss has pretty good micro, he will most likely win the fight. Sure, with fairly heavy losses, but he wins it. Phoenixes are both more durable, more mobile and have higher dps compared to hydras.


Yeah, but here it was in the context of "I'm going for mass vr, maybe get some phenix to counter hydras"
Anyway I think phenix openings are the strongest openings a protoss can do, but seeing them as a "support unit to counter hydra" sounds wierd.


omg your signature. Juanald was such a heroic troll, i was a massive fan of his as well.
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
April 23 2013 15:00 GMT
#58
On April 23 2013 23:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Gotta love how people took me out of context in the first place. I said putting a few phoenixes into the mix is very helpful against Hydras and suddenly a couple of people are claiming I said "Phoenix hard counter mass hydra".


I have to say I never saw a protoss "put some phoenix in the mix" in this kind of composition (if it wasn't the phenix he did in the beggining of the game), but if you witnessed it often I apologize
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
April 23 2013 15:11 GMT
#59
Haha yugiyo : "it's Hots ? Well, I can still mass infestors, it's ok ?"
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 23 2013 15:13 GMT
#60
ROOTFreaky?
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