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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 23 2013 01:08 Otolia wrote: Not that I particularly disagree with you but here in TL pro players have more liberties and in retrospect should be treated with respect. Isn't EmPiReS a pro player as well? I know he was on Aprender's roster a little while ago. | ||
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EmPiReS
Spain3 Posts
On April 23 2013 01:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Isn't EmPiReS a pro player as well? I know he was on Aprender's roster a little while ago. I was member of APSC2 for almost a year and a half with Lucifron and vortix. | ||
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followZeRoX
Serbia1451 Posts
On April 23 2013 01:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Isn't EmPiReS a pro player as well? I know he was on Aprender's roster a little while ago. That doesent justify bashing one of the best zergs in Europe. Especially by no name player like him. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 23 2013 01:25 ZeRoX-45 wrote: That doesent justify bashing one of the best zergs in Europe. Especially by no name player like him. And how do you justify Nerchio's implication that fOrGG only won because of some perceived imbalance issue (that players like Snute and Life didn't give a shit about on their way to winning major tournaments, just FYI)? Someone who won a fucking MSL, and placed Top 3 in multiple major SC2 events, a player that has displayed a massive amount of talent so far? Do you think that's justified? | ||
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Kimi2108
Denmark20 Posts
On April 23 2013 01:02 Nerchio wrote: I am more than capable of appreciating when i actually get outplayed. But the problem seems like you don't know when you have been outplayed, blaming it on balance. Like Stephano said the other day. You are not in a position to balance whine when you played like shit. | ||
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Longtimer
490 Posts
I'm luckily only a spectator, my Starcraft career was over way back in 03-04, but do people really think that there is no problem with the mine + bio composition? Don't you guys think that the Terran player can be way too cost efficient over time? OK, Zergs needs to find another way to engage a Terran army, that's fine, but I've yet to see a Terran really master the widow mine placement one hundred percent. As for Nerchio, he has taken out players in HotS that were better than ForGG was in WoL, and he has been boasting a very high win percentage on the ladder as well. Calling him a patch zerg is, well, wrong. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 23 2013 01:57 Longtimer wrote: As for Nerchio, he has taken out players in HotS that were better than ForGG was in WoL, and he has been boasting a very high win percentage on the ladder as well. Calling him a patch zerg is, well, wrong. Nobody called Nerchio a patch zerg but I don't think you're aware of how good fOrGG actually was. Yes, he's had a slump, but he's also had some pretty good results. And don't even think about giving me that "oh but he never won a tournament" bullshit because for the longest time Nerchio never won anything either. Yeah, remember when Nerchio was a talent with bright prospects but the community opinion on him ranged from "lol who?" to "meh some whiny bm kid on the ladder, probs hacker"? Quantifiable results aren't always indicative of talent. I don't think fOrGG has ever disrespected Nerchio, he doesn't deserve this bullshit whining excuse from someone who was ranked C on ICCup when he was an A-Teamer on Lecaf Oz and KT Rolster. You only get the respect that you treat others with .(let's not forget insulting GoOdy and many other pros over and over and not leaving until all his buildings were destroyed) It seems fair to me. P.S: Nerchio, no matter how hard you try, you will never be IdrA, who can BM infinitely superior player and still have thousands of fans. It's better to just grow up and admit defeat like a man, learn from mistakes and practice harder next time. | ||
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Longtimer
490 Posts
Nerchio can probably confirm this, but I've never seen ForGG say "gg" when he loses to Nerchio on the ladder. I like ForGG, he has some character, but he isn't the goldenboy you make him out to be (of course, you could argue that he's only giving back). Hell, ForGG even accused Nerchio of maphacking in an online thing they played, even though ForGG streamed 10 hours a day and did the same shit every time he played against Zerg. If I were accused of maphacking, especially if I had 4-0'ed MC and 4-1'ed Yongwha offline, I would probably be pretty BM towards that person as well. | ||
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Liebig
France738 Posts
On April 23 2013 02:22 Longtimer wrote: What the actual fuck? Nerchio can probably confirm this, but I've never seen ForGG say "gg" when he loses to Nerchio on the ladder. I like ForGG, he has some character, but he isn't the goldenboy you make him out to be (of course, you could argue that he's only giving back). Hell, ForGG even accused Nerchio of maphacking in an online thing they played, even though ForGG streamed 10 hours a day and did the same shit every time he played against Zerg. If I were accused of maphacking, especially if I had 4-0'ed MC and 4-1'ed Yongwha offline, I would probably be pretty BM towards that person as well. Dayshi said on millenium stream after the games that forgg doesn't like nerchio cause he is bm and he made fun of him when forgg got disqualified early in some tournament. | ||
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Psyclon
Bulgaria2443 Posts
On April 23 2013 02:35 Liebig wrote: Dayshi said on millenium stream after the games that forgg doesn't like nerchio cause he is bm and he made fun of him when forgg got disqualified early in some tournament. Pros behaving like children, such a shame. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On April 23 2013 02:35 Liebig wrote: Dayshi said on millenium stream after the games that forgg doesn't like nerchio cause he is bm and he made fun of him when forgg got disqualified early in some tournament. I'm sure that one time when Nerchio 4-0'd ForGG in some tournament with early roach attacks after he went for the same insanely greedy build four times in a row and then basically accused him of maphacking for countering his build didn't help their relationship either. | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:19 StarVe wrote: I'm sure that one time when Nerchio 4-0'd ForGG in some tournament with early roach attacks after he went for the same insanely greedy build four times in a row and then basically accused him of maphacking for countering his build didn't help their relationship either. Yeah I remember that, it was a Hots beta tournament. Funny enough it was organized by Take too. Nerchio played 2 times in a row a 7RR, once a macro game, and again 7RR. And each game, ForGG opened with CC first. Nerchio took 4-0 win then. | ||
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rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
Killing 3 guys is pretty impressive and he can hardly be blamed for trying to all-in in a ZvT. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:19 StarVe wrote: I'm sure that one time when Nerchio 4-0'd ForGG in some tournament with early roach attacks after he went for the same insanely greedy build four times in a row and then basically accused him of maphacking for countering his build didn't help their relationship either. I remember. ForGG was playing REALLY BAD this day. But not today. | ||
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AoWLuXus
Korea (South)109 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:36 AoWLuXus wrote: lol Empires, you call Nerchio bad??? I know you from laddering and you are just a mid master terran noob. Just be happy that you had the honor to face Nerchio and stop writting in here. And MasterOfPuppet Empires is not a pro. He's not even a good player at all. By the way Nerchio did very good in all his games just vs greedy korean terran play its almost impossible to win with zerg. Its a fact just face it! lol yea . . . . . No, not really | ||
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Longtimer
490 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:34 Boucot wrote: I remember. ForGG was playing REALLY BAD this day. But not today. Yeah, he did, but I think everyone with a neutral mind will agree that losing and then calling the opponent a maphacker is far, much, a lot worse than a player losing and then calling the opponents race for imba. Anyways, it's done and dusted now. ForGG is in great shape at the moment, but I would argue that Nerchio is as well. I'm actually starting to believe that Nerchio is underrated because he is so easy to dislike. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26682 Posts
I love forgg too, people forget how hyped he was upon his arrival into the scene and I like how he actually is based in EU. | ||
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Orange_BuD
Afghanistan40 Posts
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