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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 16 2013 23:13 GMT
#4981
On April 17 2013 08:09 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 08:08 Baum wrote:
We have to remember that the best Protoss and Zerg players were already invited while Terrans had to catch up in numbers through the qualifiers.

Wasnt mvp, forgg and mma invited?

Yeah, because without them there would've been 3 (!) terrans in the whole invite list.

Maybe the EU terrans aren't actually that bad and its balancing itself out. If anything this is a sign of a more balanced environment, if these relatively unknown terrans roll the actual WCS we might have problems.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 16 2013 23:15 GMT
#4982
On April 17 2013 07:58 DeathProfessor wrote:
Feels great but 6 Terran of 6 and 6/6 Europeans?

Seriously this must be why I hear most complaining at lower levels of SC2, Terran seems quite dominant unless you can get a really really good player then for some odd inexplicable reason it does a polar shift, in Code S KR there are a majority Zerg now! So this is getting pretty bizarre.


Like mentioned before the strong toss and zerg players got invited for EU already. So it was likely that Terrans will qualify. Anyway seems like Blizzard managed to balance mortal level Terran, without buffing Korean level Terran to much.

And complaining from the lower level is standard. You heard it before with Fungals and you hear it now with Widow mines. AoEs are the bane of noobs. At the end only the race distribution there tells the truth. And in WoL Terran dominated bronze level pretty hard lol.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 23:16:48
April 16 2013 23:16 GMT
#4983
On April 17 2013 08:13 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 08:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
On April 17 2013 08:02 pmp10 wrote:
On April 17 2013 07:58 DeathProfessor wrote:
Feels great but 6 Terran of 6 and 6/6 Europeans?

Seriously this must be why I hear most complaining at lower levels of SC2, Terran seems quite dominant unless you can get a really really good player then for some odd inexplicable reason it does a polar shift, in Code S KR there are a majority Zerg now! So this is getting pretty bizarre.

This has nothing to do with perceived dominance but metagame.
In GSL code A qualifier you had only 7 T to 11 P and 12 Z.
Simply on foreigner level hellbat drops came back with a vengeance and now terran may be doing a little too good.


Or we're looking at a tiny number of random matches and this result could have come about when P or Z is OP instead. At least look at the total win rates and not whoever qualified.

I don't doubt that in WoL terran was rubbish at foreigner level and current metagame may sort itself out it time.
But if it doesn't we cannot go all the way in the other direction letting WCS Europe become dominated by part-time terran players. It's not like the issues are easy to fix. Hellbat drops are the only thing keeping mech play alive.


I think Blue-Flame could effect Hellbats again while they deal less damage without them . That might do it The Hellbat dropping becomes way easier to deal with later on ( it's still pretty strong )
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 16 2013 23:16 GMT
#4984
Hell yeah Strelok!
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
April 16 2013 23:16 GMT
#4985
So, who are the favorites for tomorrow?
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 16 2013 23:17 GMT
#4986
On April 17 2013 08:16 SinCitta wrote:
So, who are the favorites for tomorrow?


the ones with the fast f5 finger !
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 16 2013 23:18 GMT
#4987
On April 17 2013 08:16 SinCitta wrote:
So, who are the favorites for tomorrow?

Welmu, Beastyqt, koreans I guess?
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 16 2013 23:18 GMT
#4988
On April 17 2013 08:16 SinCitta wrote:
So, who are the favorites for tomorrow?


Ill say Welmu,Bling,Tails,Shuttle,Pandatank,Xlord,BeastyQT,livezerg
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 16 2013 23:18 GMT
#4989
On April 17 2013 08:16 SinCitta wrote:
So, who are the favorites for tomorrow?

I'd say Koreans, Welmu, probably anyone who made top 4/8 so far this week have a shot
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Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
April 16 2013 23:19 GMT
#4990
On April 17 2013 08:17 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 08:16 SinCitta wrote:
So, who are the favorites for tomorrow?


the ones with the fast f5 finger !


not true, the qualifier tomorrow has no limit.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 23:20:16
April 16 2013 23:19 GMT
#4991
On April 17 2013 08:16 SinCitta wrote:
So, who are the favorites for tomorrow?


The Koreans , Welmu , Bling , Beasty , maybe Livezerg , Targa ? It's pretty hard to make a prediction. There's so many good europeans that have the potential to win one of those things. I would love to see Goody qualify but it doesn't look that likely :8
iNviSible.yunO
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany211 Posts
April 16 2013 23:19 GMT
#4992
KrasS, that was amazing. Keep it up, man!
o.O''
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 16 2013 23:20 GMT
#4993
Fuzer will come out in full force tomorrow.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
April 16 2013 23:20 GMT
#4994
On April 17 2013 08:13 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 08:09 farnham wrote:
On April 17 2013 08:08 Baum wrote:
We have to remember that the best Protoss and Zerg players were already invited while Terrans had to catch up in numbers through the qualifiers.

Wasnt mvp, forgg and mma invited?

Yeah, because without them there would've been 3 (!) terrans in the whole invite list.

Maybe the EU terrans aren't actually that bad and its balancing itself out. If anything this is a sign of a more balanced environment, if these relatively unknown terrans roll the actual WCS we might have problems.

Well looking at the other races i dont really see many players that can compete with them. Stephano.. Thats about it.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
April 16 2013 23:20 GMT
#4995
On April 17 2013 08:19 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 08:16 SinCitta wrote:
So, who are the favorites for tomorrow?


The Koreans , Welmu , Bling , Beasty , maybe Livezerg , Targa ? It's pretty hard to make a prediction. There's so many good europeans that have the potential to win one of those things. I would love to see Goody qualify but it doesn't look that likely :8


Xigua!
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
April 16 2013 23:22 GMT
#4996
On April 17 2013 08:19 Ippo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 08:17 FeyFey wrote:
On April 17 2013 08:16 SinCitta wrote:
So, who are the favorites for tomorrow?


the ones with the fast f5 finger !


not true, the qualifier tomorrow has no limit.

1024 is the limit
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farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
April 16 2013 23:22 GMT
#4997
On April 17 2013 08:18 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 08:16 SinCitta wrote:
So, who are the favorites for tomorrow?


Ill say Welmu,Bling,Tails,Shuttle,Pandatank,Xlord,BeastyQT,livezerg

Finale
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 16 2013 23:22 GMT
#4998
Tomorrow is going to be XiGua and PandaTank! I believe!
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 16 2013 23:23 GMT
#4999
On April 17 2013 08:16 SinCitta wrote:
So, who are the favorites for tomorrow?

Targa, Empire Terrans, Welmu, Koreans
maybe Bling, maybe Xlord or someone unknown, Idk

LiveZerg will probably die in the Ro16 or Ro8 again, I wish he'd make it. He looks like an alien, it'd be nice to have an alien in Code S. Also, Titan would have a friend there.

Awww. Yeah.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
April 16 2013 23:25 GMT
#5000
Europe holds !

Krass played awesome today. Didn't get to see many strelok games but he's a beast.
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