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-IeZaeL-
Profile Joined December 2007
Spain327 Posts
April 15 2013 21:12 GMT
#2761
Artem Garavtsov ‏@VPBenQsLivko 4min
@EmpireBeasty you lost to protoss with 600 ping , good job bro.

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aka:Wizards-> FnaticMSI ->IImg.IeZaeL ->MYM.IeZaeL . Actually teamless,Top40-80 GM Europe.Twitter: @IeZaeL_7
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 15 2013 21:13 GMT
#2762
On April 16 2013 06:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 06:07 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:05 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:03 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:58 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:49 CoR wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:37 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:32 s3rp wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:30 StarVe wrote:
[quote]
No, that's bullshit. Tails is good enough to qualify for Premier, I mean, so are 20 other Europeans but I'd say Tails would still be one of the players with the best chances if he lived in EU.

He's not THAT bad.


Depends on who he plays .Even Without lag i still rate at least 15 Europeans even or better than him.


There are not 15 europeans, probably not even 5, who could win games against good players in GSTL regularly, let alone devise snipe builds to take out anyone. Tied perhaps with finale, Tails is by far the best player in this qualifier.


still tails is not like "uh he beast all europeans" i can name instant 10 who are easy better and so naming 15 isnt that hard (even some unknown i am sure in this matchup tails would have HUGE problems, and the players arent rly known ... jaeh 300ms ARE MUCH but top pros can still win (like hyun) in europe ...
but tail lose to guys i never heared of ^^

I think this is a weak argument. But alright, i'll play along - name 10 european pros who could win games regularly in GSTL.


I thought the game was naming 10 EU players who are better than Tails? :o

Indeed. And to be considered better, I'd say you'd need to match his kill-list either in individual leagues or team leagues.


We don't know how good any Europeans are right now because they've barely played HOTS competitively.

We all assume Stephano is still number one but he's been smashed in HOTS so far.

Results wise it's MaNa -> Luci/VortiX atm, I'd say. Haven't seen anything out of Stephano.

Bunny/Welmu/BratOK last foreign hopes


What have Lucifron/Vortix done in HOTS? Lucifron looked really behind at IEM but a lot has changed since then.

Mana I guess has done the best but that amounts to be good in minor team leagues and I can't really get behind that as good evidence.


I think he had practiced mostly WoL before IEM due to IPL6.

Lucifron has some really impressive results so far in HotS, defeating HyuN, Ryung, Center and ForGG. He really likes them hellbat drops :D
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
greenknight999
Profile Joined January 2012
69 Posts
April 15 2013 21:14 GMT
#2763
Bunny, the time has come to utilise your childhood training...
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 15 2013 21:14 GMT
#2764
On April 16 2013 06:12 -IeZaeL- wrote:
Artem Garavtsov ‏@VPBenQsLivko 4min
@EmpireBeasty you lost to protoss with 600 ping , good job bro.

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Slivko manner :p
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 15 2013 21:14 GMT
#2765
On April 16 2013 06:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 06:07 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:05 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:03 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:58 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:49 CoR wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:37 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:32 s3rp wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:30 StarVe wrote:
[quote]
No, that's bullshit. Tails is good enough to qualify for Premier, I mean, so are 20 other Europeans but I'd say Tails would still be one of the players with the best chances if he lived in EU.

He's not THAT bad.


Depends on who he plays .Even Without lag i still rate at least 15 Europeans even or better than him.


There are not 15 europeans, probably not even 5, who could win games against good players in GSTL regularly, let alone devise snipe builds to take out anyone. Tied perhaps with finale, Tails is by far the best player in this qualifier.


still tails is not like "uh he beast all europeans" i can name instant 10 who are easy better and so naming 15 isnt that hard (even some unknown i am sure in this matchup tails would have HUGE problems, and the players arent rly known ... jaeh 300ms ARE MUCH but top pros can still win (like hyun) in europe ...
but tail lose to guys i never heared of ^^

I think this is a weak argument. But alright, i'll play along - name 10 european pros who could win games regularly in GSTL.


I thought the game was naming 10 EU players who are better than Tails? :o

Indeed. And to be considered better, I'd say you'd need to match his kill-list either in individual leagues or team leagues.


We don't know how good any Europeans are right now because they've barely played HOTS competitively.

We all assume Stephano is still number one but he's been smashed in HOTS so far.

Results wise it's MaNa -> Luci/VortiX atm, I'd say. Haven't seen anything out of Stephano.

Bunny/Welmu/BratOK last foreign hopes


What have Lucifron/Vortix done in HOTS? Lucifron looked really behind at IEM but a lot has changed since then.

Mana I guess has done the best but that amounts to be good in minor team leagues and I can't really get behind that as good evidence.


It's not a minor team league, it's a premier team league.

There are no other big tournaments right now, it's the only thing we've got and MaNa is 9-2 vs Koreans. Lucifron and Vortix have both shown that they can trade games with Koreans and both have a largely positive record against them.

And fuck ladder, but Luci has been #1 EU GM for quite a while with like 73% winrate, it doesn't say much, but I don't think he is behind in the metagame any longer.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
April 15 2013 21:14 GMT
#2766
Feast doing a 7 gate robo :D
gogogogo parting ranger !
RIP MKP
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 15 2013 21:15 GMT
#2767
On April 16 2013 06:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 06:07 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:05 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:03 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:58 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:49 CoR wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:37 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:32 s3rp wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:30 StarVe wrote:
[quote]
No, that's bullshit. Tails is good enough to qualify for Premier, I mean, so are 20 other Europeans but I'd say Tails would still be one of the players with the best chances if he lived in EU.

He's not THAT bad.


Depends on who he plays .Even Without lag i still rate at least 15 Europeans even or better than him.


There are not 15 europeans, probably not even 5, who could win games against good players in GSTL regularly, let alone devise snipe builds to take out anyone. Tied perhaps with finale, Tails is by far the best player in this qualifier.


still tails is not like "uh he beast all europeans" i can name instant 10 who are easy better and so naming 15 isnt that hard (even some unknown i am sure in this matchup tails would have HUGE problems, and the players arent rly known ... jaeh 300ms ARE MUCH but top pros can still win (like hyun) in europe ...
but tail lose to guys i never heared of ^^

I think this is a weak argument. But alright, i'll play along - name 10 european pros who could win games regularly in GSTL.


I thought the game was naming 10 EU players who are better than Tails? :o

Indeed. And to be considered better, I'd say you'd need to match his kill-list either in individual leagues or team leagues.


We don't know how good any Europeans are right now because they've barely played HOTS competitively.

We all assume Stephano is still number one but he's been smashed in HOTS so far.

Results wise it's MaNa -> Luci/VortiX atm, I'd say. Haven't seen anything out of Stephano.

Bunny/Welmu/BratOK last foreign hopes


What have Lucifron/Vortix done in HOTS? Lucifron looked really behind at IEM but a lot has changed since then.

Mana I guess has done the best but that amounts to be good in minor team leagues and I can't really get behind that as good evidence.

ATC and Mana's achievements in it are by no means minor.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7188 Posts
April 15 2013 21:15 GMT
#2768
Welmu 2-1 Bratok
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 15 2013 21:16 GMT
#2769
Welmu pretty much qualified now.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
April 15 2013 21:16 GMT
#2770
Welmu vs Bunny on ESL PL
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7188 Posts
April 15 2013 21:17 GMT
#2771
On April 16 2013 06:16 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Welmu pretty much qualified now.

Duckdeok still there tho
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 15 2013 21:17 GMT
#2772
On April 16 2013 06:17 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 06:16 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Welmu pretty much qualified now.

Duckdeok still there tho


Yeah, that's the easy one.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
April 15 2013 21:17 GMT
#2773
Bunny vs Welmu ro8. Going to be epic match!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 15 2013 21:17 GMT
#2774
On April 16 2013 06:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 06:07 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:05 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:03 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:58 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:49 CoR wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:37 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:32 s3rp wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:30 StarVe wrote:
[quote]
No, that's bullshit. Tails is good enough to qualify for Premier, I mean, so are 20 other Europeans but I'd say Tails would still be one of the players with the best chances if he lived in EU.

He's not THAT bad.


Depends on who he plays .Even Without lag i still rate at least 15 Europeans even or better than him.


There are not 15 europeans, probably not even 5, who could win games against good players in GSTL regularly, let alone devise snipe builds to take out anyone. Tied perhaps with finale, Tails is by far the best player in this qualifier.


still tails is not like "uh he beast all europeans" i can name instant 10 who are easy better and so naming 15 isnt that hard (even some unknown i am sure in this matchup tails would have HUGE problems, and the players arent rly known ... jaeh 300ms ARE MUCH but top pros can still win (like hyun) in europe ...
but tail lose to guys i never heared of ^^

I think this is a weak argument. But alright, i'll play along - name 10 european pros who could win games regularly in GSTL.


I thought the game was naming 10 EU players who are better than Tails? :o

Indeed. And to be considered better, I'd say you'd need to match his kill-list either in individual leagues or team leagues.


We don't know how good any Europeans are right now because they've barely played HOTS competitively.

We all assume Stephano is still number one but he's been smashed in HOTS so far.

Results wise it's MaNa -> Luci/VortiX atm, I'd say. Haven't seen anything out of Stephano.

Bunny/Welmu/BratOK last foreign hopes


What have Lucifron/Vortix done in HOTS? Lucifron looked really behind at IEM but a lot has changed since then.

Mana I guess has done the best but that amounts to be good in minor team leagues and I can't really get behind that as good evidence.


You don't follow the Acer Teamstory cup, do you? They have shown great games there and pulling the team to their 3rd place. :o
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
April 15 2013 21:18 GMT
#2775
On April 16 2013 06:15 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 06:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:07 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:05 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:03 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 06:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:58 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:49 CoR wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:37 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:32 s3rp wrote:
[quote]

Depends on who he plays .Even Without lag i still rate at least 15 Europeans even or better than him.


There are not 15 europeans, probably not even 5, who could win games against good players in GSTL regularly, let alone devise snipe builds to take out anyone. Tied perhaps with finale, Tails is by far the best player in this qualifier.


still tails is not like "uh he beast all europeans" i can name instant 10 who are easy better and so naming 15 isnt that hard (even some unknown i am sure in this matchup tails would have HUGE problems, and the players arent rly known ... jaeh 300ms ARE MUCH but top pros can still win (like hyun) in europe ...
but tail lose to guys i never heared of ^^

I think this is a weak argument. But alright, i'll play along - name 10 european pros who could win games regularly in GSTL.


I thought the game was naming 10 EU players who are better than Tails? :o

Indeed. And to be considered better, I'd say you'd need to match his kill-list either in individual leagues or team leagues.


We don't know how good any Europeans are right now because they've barely played HOTS competitively.

We all assume Stephano is still number one but he's been smashed in HOTS so far.

Results wise it's MaNa -> Luci/VortiX atm, I'd say. Haven't seen anything out of Stephano.

Bunny/Welmu/BratOK last foreign hopes


What have Lucifron/Vortix done in HOTS? Lucifron looked really behind at IEM but a lot has changed since then.

Mana I guess has done the best but that amounts to be good in minor team leagues and I can't really get behind that as good evidence.

ATC and Mana's achievements in it are by no means minor.


It's only a $20k prize pool it is played completely online and mostly cross server.. That is like the definition of a minor event.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 15 2013 21:18 GMT
#2776
On April 16 2013 06:16 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Welmu pretty much qualified now.


If Welmu qualifies, I want an interview : listening to him speaking in English is so much fun
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 15 2013 21:19 GMT
#2777
Bunny carrying the terran flag \o/
Terran & Potato Salad.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
April 15 2013 21:19 GMT
#2778
Feast got too confident :x
RIP MKP
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
April 15 2013 21:19 GMT
#2779
On April 16 2013 06:14 greenknight999 wrote:
Bunny, the time has come to utilise your childhood training...
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


lol :D Nice one, got a great memory flood out of that
월요 날 재미있
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 15 2013 21:19 GMT
#2780
TargA holding strong! Too bad the sandwich from behind was so ill-timed!
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