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dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
April 15 2013 20:55 GMT
#2701
Feast 2-0 Psionic
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 15 2013 20:55 GMT
#2702
Bratok looking good in game 2
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 15 2013 20:55 GMT
#2703
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/sc2tv.ru

BratOK - Welmu G2 started on Daybreak

BratOK proxies a factory to build widow mines, catches Welmu off guard

JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 15 2013 20:55 GMT
#2704
Great move by TargA! now finish him!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 15 2013 20:56 GMT
#2705
Targa still pretty good. Some team should pick him up.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 15 2013 20:56 GMT
#2706
On April 16 2013 05:51 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 05:49 Schelim wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:41 Schelim wrote:
isn't duckdeok pronounced more like 'duck-dee-ok'?


Nope dok is right. The "eo" sound is similar to "o" for french ears, the english can make the difference (If I got everything right that's the "o" in "dog" rather than in "go"). Koreans romanize it "eo" because they are awesome and therefore they can do whatever they want.

i'm not sure what French has to do with anything, but doesn't that mean it should be pronounced 'duck-de-ok' if Koreans pronounce it that way? (i.e. the 'eo' is a diphthong)

i'm asking because Kaelaris keeps saying "duckduck"


Nah that's what I'm telling you, it's not a diphthong, it's another vowel which sounds similar to "o". I said french cause for some reason I read France after your name ^.^ but I don't think german makes the difference between the two either. I know english does.

oh yeah. after re-reading your post i get what you mean. thanks for the info. for some reason i thought i had heard Artosis say it in the way i tried to describe and since he's been living in Korea for like 5 years he probably knows how Koreans pronounce stuff.

kinda embarassing i've been studying english for almost three years and still suck at phonetics. i'm having a really hard time trying to describe all these sounds t.t
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 15 2013 20:57 GMT
#2707
Strelok still at 0 armor! :o
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 15 2013 20:58 GMT
#2708
On April 16 2013 05:55 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 05:53 krutopatkin wrote:
Btw, finale also managed to qualify for Code A, which no foreigner managed to accomplish, ever.


Well that's also because most foreigners didn't even bother to try. Or can you list many non-NA competitive gamers who did try?

DeathAngel
MacSed
TLO
funkay
HayprO
Jinro
SaSe
ToD
Naama
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 15 2013 20:58 GMT
#2709
On April 16 2013 05:49 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 05:37 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:32 s3rp wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:30 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:28 Champloo wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:25 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
I don't understand why Koreans chose to play in the EU qualifier. They're obviously better overall (although Tails wouldn't even be close to the top 50 Koreans and is worse than quite a few foreigners imo), but not so much better you can win with 300ms+, not to mention it is extremely shitty and not fun to play like that every week.


Tails would have a hard time to qualify for EU Premier Division even if he lived in Europe. Just like Daisy, who did nothing when he was in Europe, even failed to make the EPS top 8. The only Korean participating in the qualifiers with a real shot at making Premier Division is Finale.

No, that's bullshit. Tails is good enough to qualify for Premier, I mean, so are 20 other Europeans but I'd say Tails would still be one of the players with the best chances if he lived in EU.

He's not THAT bad.


Depends on who he plays .Even Without lag i still rate at least 15 Europeans even or better than him.


There are not 15 europeans, probably not even 5, who could win games against good players in GSTL regularly, let alone devise snipe builds to take out anyone. Tied perhaps with finale, Tails is by far the best player in this qualifier.


still tails is not like "uh he beast all europeans" i can name instant 10 who are easy better and so naming 15 isnt that hard (even some unknown i am sure in this matchup tails would have HUGE problems, and the players arent rly known ... jaeh 300ms ARE MUCH but top pros can still win (like hyun) in europe ...
but tail lose to guys i never heared of ^^

I think this is a weak argument. But alright, i'll play along - name 10 european pros who could win games regularly in GSTL.
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
April 15 2013 20:59 GMT
#2710
who is bunny?
TL+ Member
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12360 Posts
April 15 2013 20:59 GMT
#2711
On April 16 2013 05:56 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 05:51 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:49 Schelim wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:41 Schelim wrote:
isn't duckdeok pronounced more like 'duck-dee-ok'?


Nope dok is right. The "eo" sound is similar to "o" for french ears, the english can make the difference (If I got everything right that's the "o" in "dog" rather than in "go"). Koreans romanize it "eo" because they are awesome and therefore they can do whatever they want.

i'm not sure what French has to do with anything, but doesn't that mean it should be pronounced 'duck-de-ok' if Koreans pronounce it that way? (i.e. the 'eo' is a diphthong)

i'm asking because Kaelaris keeps saying "duckduck"


Nah that's what I'm telling you, it's not a diphthong, it's another vowel which sounds similar to "o". I said french cause for some reason I read France after your name ^.^ but I don't think german makes the difference between the two either. I know english does.

oh yeah. after re-reading your post i get what you mean. thanks for the info. for some reason i thought i had heard Artosis say it in the way i tried to describe and since he's been living in Korea for like 5 years he probably knows how Koreans pronounce stuff.

kinda embarassing i've been studying english for almost three years and still suck at phonetics. i'm having a really hard time trying to describe all these sounds t.t


fwiw I got it wrong the first time, it's the sound english has in "plus", not in "dog" ^^'
No will to live, no wish to die
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
April 15 2013 21:00 GMT
#2712
Targa 2-0 Strelok
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 15 2013 21:00 GMT
#2713
On April 16 2013 05:59 Paljas wrote:
who is bunny?

Also known as Dreambunny, he is a terran from Denmark who plays for Copenhagen Wolves. He got 3rd at last years WCS Denmark.
PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
April 15 2013 21:00 GMT
#2714
Actually finale didn't qualify for Code A through offline qualifiers but EWM: so a ~64 Code B players insane bracket, and then a ro8 made of the 8 winners from each qualifier
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 15 2013 21:00 GMT
#2715
On April 16 2013 05:58 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 05:55 JustPassingBy wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:53 krutopatkin wrote:
Btw, finale also managed to qualify for Code A, which no foreigner managed to accomplish, ever.


Well that's also because most foreigners didn't even bother to try. Or can you list many non-NA competitive gamers who did try?

DeathAngel
MacSed
TLO
funkay
HayprO
Jinro
SaSe
ToD
Naama

HappyZerg also got to the finals of the qualifier he played in.

When a player like Deathangel can make the finals twice, I think there are a lot of foreigners who could make Code A if they tried often enough and came there in large enough numbers.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 15 2013 21:00 GMT
#2716
On April 16 2013 05:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 05:49 CoR wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:37 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:32 s3rp wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:30 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:28 Champloo wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:25 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
I don't understand why Koreans chose to play in the EU qualifier. They're obviously better overall (although Tails wouldn't even be close to the top 50 Koreans and is worse than quite a few foreigners imo), but not so much better you can win with 300ms+, not to mention it is extremely shitty and not fun to play like that every week.


Tails would have a hard time to qualify for EU Premier Division even if he lived in Europe. Just like Daisy, who did nothing when he was in Europe, even failed to make the EPS top 8. The only Korean participating in the qualifiers with a real shot at making Premier Division is Finale.

No, that's bullshit. Tails is good enough to qualify for Premier, I mean, so are 20 other Europeans but I'd say Tails would still be one of the players with the best chances if he lived in EU.

He's not THAT bad.


Depends on who he plays .Even Without lag i still rate at least 15 Europeans even or better than him.


There are not 15 europeans, probably not even 5, who could win games against good players in GSTL regularly, let alone devise snipe builds to take out anyone. Tied perhaps with finale, Tails is by far the best player in this qualifier.


still tails is not like "uh he beast all europeans" i can name instant 10 who are easy better and so naming 15 isnt that hard (even some unknown i am sure in this matchup tails would have HUGE problems, and the players arent rly known ... jaeh 300ms ARE MUCH but top pros can still win (like hyun) in europe ...
but tail lose to guys i never heared of ^^

I think this is a weak argument. But alright, i'll play along - name 10 european pros who could win games regularly in GSTL.


I thought the game was naming 10 EU players who are better than Tails? :o
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 21:01:40
April 15 2013 21:01 GMT
#2717
On April 16 2013 05:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 05:49 CoR wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:37 Zealously wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:32 s3rp wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:30 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:28 Champloo wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:25 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
I don't understand why Koreans chose to play in the EU qualifier. They're obviously better overall (although Tails wouldn't even be close to the top 50 Koreans and is worse than quite a few foreigners imo), but not so much better you can win with 300ms+, not to mention it is extremely shitty and not fun to play like that every week.


Tails would have a hard time to qualify for EU Premier Division even if he lived in Europe. Just like Daisy, who did nothing when he was in Europe, even failed to make the EPS top 8. The only Korean participating in the qualifiers with a real shot at making Premier Division is Finale.

No, that's bullshit. Tails is good enough to qualify for Premier, I mean, so are 20 other Europeans but I'd say Tails would still be one of the players with the best chances if he lived in EU.

He's not THAT bad.


Depends on who he plays .Even Without lag i still rate at least 15 Europeans even or better than him.


There are not 15 europeans, probably not even 5, who could win games against good players in GSTL regularly, let alone devise snipe builds to take out anyone. Tied perhaps with finale, Tails is by far the best player in this qualifier.


still tails is not like "uh he beast all europeans" i can name instant 10 who are easy better and so naming 15 isnt that hard (even some unknown i am sure in this matchup tails would have HUGE problems, and the players arent rly known ... jaeh 300ms ARE MUCH but top pros can still win (like hyun) in europe ...
but tail lose to guys i never heared of ^^

I think this is a weak argument. But alright, i'll play along - name 10 european pros who could win games regularly in GSTL.


This conversation is so stupid. The fact of the matter is Tails haven't been able to qualify to the EU premier league. This is a fact rest is just speculation
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
April 15 2013 21:01 GMT
#2718
On April 16 2013 05:58 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 05:55 JustPassingBy wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:53 krutopatkin wrote:
Btw, finale also managed to qualify for Code A, which no foreigner managed to accomplish, ever.


Well that's also because most foreigners didn't even bother to try. Or can you list many non-NA competitive gamers who did try?

DeathAngel
MacSed
TLO
funkay
HayprO
Jinro
SaSe
ToD
Naama


Pretty sure Ret tried a couple times as well.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 15 2013 21:01 GMT
#2719
On April 16 2013 05:53 krutopatkin wrote:
Btw, finale also managed to qualify for Code A, which no foreigner managed to accomplish, ever.

B-Teamers are qualifying for Code A through sheer numbers. But you don't see me making sweeping statement that B-Teamers are better than say ZerO, or Stats who are consistently winning in PL. Otherwise those guys would be playing.
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
April 15 2013 21:01 GMT
#2720
3 CC double Ebays with no scout. All in material for Ducky?
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