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dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
April 07 2013 08:20 GMT
#741
I remember there was a game in BW in which one player played terribadly, and the casters ripped on him so hard he started to cry like a little child after the game was over(even though he won). I think it was Sea, anyone can confirm?

I wonder if the ripping on HuK was anything like that.
DGiTPadre
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
100 Posts
April 07 2013 08:21 GMT
#742
On April 07 2013 17:13 HeartOfTheSwarm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 17:09 var username wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:07 DGiTPadre wrote:
You guys are fucking idiots. Get in the proleague booth. It's so easy to make mistakes, and adjusting to this atmosphere takes time. Huk's whole build was slowed down by his mistakes. If he had A) cut all the mistakes, getting that 2/2 and blink/charge a minute faster, or B) Light had waited a bit longer, Huk had that game no problem. Ultimately, Huk is showing us he wants to be competitive, and is putting in the work in a rigorous environment; why is he being shit on by a bunch of foreigner scrubs?


Because suddenly, based on a single man's unsubstantiated words, one needs to be a progamer to criticize another progamer.


But he got the point. Who knows why he lost. He certainly looked like choking. And at least he is trying and working hard and we should give him props for that. He certainly would've not be here tonight if he didn't deserve his spot.


Maybe my original post was very emotionally-driven after just watching everyone bash Huk ^^. My point is that especially in Proleague, there are some definite WTF moments from other players, yet all eyes are on Huk to win his match. If he makes mistakes, (which let's face it, he made a lot of them), the entire internet blows up about how he does not deserve to be called a progamer. It's just ridiculous, considering he earned that spot in the lineup tonight. If you want Huk to grow into a strong Korean contender again, give him time to get dialed in. It's been a while since he's been in full training mode in Korea, and the last time he was really training, it seemed like he was doing fairly well for himself.,
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
April 07 2013 08:21 GMT
#743
On April 07 2013 17:20 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 17:19 BisuDagger wrote:
Set 3! SOS vs JYP
we find ourselves in another PvP
the match is tied 1-1

Hero hides his head from camera.
SOS is born at the P11 while JYP has risen in the P5 position.

JYP sends out an early probe and makes a pylon midway on the map.
We could see JYP apply early warpgate pressure with his build.
SOS decided to go for a fast Nexus.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 08:22:20
April 07 2013 08:21 GMT
#744
Here we goooo DT expand!!
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
April 07 2013 08:22 GMT
#745
On April 07 2013 17:18 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 17:16 kafkaesque wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:13 HeartOfTheSwarm wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:09 var username wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:07 DGiTPadre wrote:
You guys are fucking idiots. Get in the proleague booth. It's so easy to make mistakes, and adjusting to this atmosphere takes time. Huk's whole build was slowed down by his mistakes. If he had A) cut all the mistakes, getting that 2/2 and blink/charge a minute faster, or B) Light had waited a bit longer, Huk had that game no problem. Ultimately, Huk is showing us he wants to be competitive, and is putting in the work in a rigorous environment; why is he being shit on by a bunch of foreigner scrubs?


Because suddenly, based on a single man's unsubstantiated words, one needs to be a progamer to criticize another progamer.


But he got the point. Who knows why he lost. He certainly looked like choking. And at least he is trying and working hard and we should give him props for that. He certainly would've not be here tonight if he didn't deserve his spot.


Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I always thought what mostly made a good player is winning games.

I never could get behind the IdrA-logic that a player who destroys his opponent is "terrible" and the losing player more deserving because of vague factors like a "gimmicky" or "abusive" playing style.


If winning and achievements are factors to judge a good player, plenty of Koreans that are capable of destroying major tournaments in EU/US and are capable of winning Code S are suddenly not good, because they don't win as much or don't have as much achievements. Not pointing towards the huk discussion here, but winning isn't the only sign of a good player.

In a match Flash vs Life, there can be only one winner.

But there are tiers of skill. Koreans who cant cut it in KR but can crush na/eu are still bad, na and eu are just ultra bad.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
April 07 2013 08:22 GMT
#746
On April 07 2013 17:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 17:20 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:19 BisuDagger wrote:
Set 3! SOS vs JYP
we find ourselves in another PvP
the match is tied 1-1

Hero hides his head from camera.
SOS is born at the P11 while JYP has risen in the P5 position.

JYP sends out an early probe and makes a pylon midway on the map.
We could see JYP apply early warpgate pressure with his build.
SOS decided to go for a fast Nexus.

JYP with another hidden pylon.
SOS joins the hide and seek party hiding a pylon of his own!
JYP with a much later Nexus decides he wont be aggressive.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
April 07 2013 08:22 GMT
#747
LOL JYP
The heart's eternal vow
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
April 07 2013 08:23 GMT
#748
On April 07 2013 17:20 dmnum wrote:
I remember there was a game in BW in which one player played terribadly, and the casters ripped on him so hard he started to cry like a little child after the game was over(even though he won). I think it was Sea, anyone can confirm?

I wonder if the ripping on HuK was anything like that.

how would the player know what the casters are saying in-game?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
April 07 2013 08:23 GMT
#749
On April 07 2013 17:22 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 17:21 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:20 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:19 BisuDagger wrote:
Set 3! SOS vs JYP
we find ourselves in another PvP
the match is tied 1-1

Hero hides his head from camera.
SOS is born at the P11 while JYP has risen in the P5 position.

JYP sends out an early probe and makes a pylon midway on the map.
We could see JYP apply early warpgate pressure with his build.
SOS decided to go for a fast Nexus.

JYP with another hidden pylon.
SOS joins the hide and seek party hiding a pylon of his own!
JYP with a much later Nexus decides he wont be aggressive.

DT's out for JYP!
SOS block on the ramp as his observer comes out just in time.
JYP going for a second attempt.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
April 07 2013 08:24 GMT
#750
On April 07 2013 17:23 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 17:22 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:21 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:20 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:19 BisuDagger wrote:
Set 3! SOS vs JYP
we find ourselves in another PvP
the match is tied 1-1

Hero hides his head from camera.
SOS is born at the P11 while JYP has risen in the P5 position.

JYP sends out an early probe and makes a pylon midway on the map.
We could see JYP apply early warpgate pressure with his build.
SOS decided to go for a fast Nexus.

JYP with another hidden pylon.
SOS joins the hide and seek party hiding a pylon of his own!
JYP with a much later Nexus decides he wont be aggressive.

DT's out for JYP!
SOS block on the ramp as his observer comes out just in time.
JYP going for a second attempt.

My stream froze but I fixed it.
Meanwhile no one has died yet
Stalkers from both players are running the field.
JYP with a supperior force of 4 takes out two of SOS's.
JYP also spots the pylon and kills it.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
April 07 2013 08:24 GMT
#751
On April 07 2013 17:23 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 17:20 dmnum wrote:
I remember there was a game in BW in which one player played terribadly, and the casters ripped on him so hard he started to cry like a little child after the game was over(even though he won). I think it was Sea, anyone can confirm?

I wonder if the ripping on HuK was anything like that.

how would the player know what the casters are saying in-game?

post game interview
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
April 07 2013 08:24 GMT
#752
this map look so much like BW map
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
April 07 2013 08:25 GMT
#753
I played many a game on Fighting Spirit on ICCUP, and I wouldn't recognize this map if no one told me.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 08:26:13
April 07 2013 08:25 GMT
#754
On April 07 2013 17:22 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 17:18 Type|NarutO wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:16 kafkaesque wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:13 HeartOfTheSwarm wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:09 var username wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:07 DGiTPadre wrote:
You guys are fucking idiots. Get in the proleague booth. It's so easy to make mistakes, and adjusting to this atmosphere takes time. Huk's whole build was slowed down by his mistakes. If he had A) cut all the mistakes, getting that 2/2 and blink/charge a minute faster, or B) Light had waited a bit longer, Huk had that game no problem. Ultimately, Huk is showing us he wants to be competitive, and is putting in the work in a rigorous environment; why is he being shit on by a bunch of foreigner scrubs?


Because suddenly, based on a single man's unsubstantiated words, one needs to be a progamer to criticize another progamer.


But he got the point. Who knows why he lost. He certainly looked like choking. And at least he is trying and working hard and we should give him props for that. He certainly would've not be here tonight if he didn't deserve his spot.


Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I always thought what mostly made a good player is winning games.

I never could get behind the IdrA-logic that a player who destroys his opponent is "terrible" and the losing player more deserving because of vague factors like a "gimmicky" or "abusive" playing style.


If winning and achievements are factors to judge a good player, plenty of Koreans that are capable of destroying major tournaments in EU/US and are capable of winning Code S are suddenly not good, because they don't win as much or don't have as much achievements. Not pointing towards the huk discussion here, but winning isn't the only sign of a good player.

In a match Flash vs Life, there can be only one winner.

But there are tiers of skill. Koreans who cant cut it in KR but can crush na/eu are still bad, na and eu are just ultra bad.


Want me to name Koreans that don't have major or even minor tournament wins in Korea and are still capable of winning Code S? Its about region as well. An amazing player doesn't need to be successful in Korea while he can still be amazing. You can have a slump or a bad time as well. I said winning is not the only thing you should take to factor a players skill.

But the thing is, HuK isn't doing anything. He gets send out rarely and does nothing, yes I would agree that this would be a sign of a bad player. But judging every player based on that... would be very harsh. It would be like saying only Broodwar players who won courage are good players, everyone who failed courage is bad.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 07 2013 08:25 GMT
#755
fun game
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
April 07 2013 08:26 GMT
#756
On April 07 2013 17:24 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 17:23 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:22 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:21 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:20 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 07 2013 17:19 BisuDagger wrote:
Set 3! SOS vs JYP
we find ourselves in another PvP
the match is tied 1-1

Hero hides his head from camera.
SOS is born at the P11 while JYP has risen in the P5 position.

JYP sends out an early probe and makes a pylon midway on the map.
We could see JYP apply early warpgate pressure with his build.
SOS decided to go for a fast Nexus.

JYP with another hidden pylon.
SOS joins the hide and seek party hiding a pylon of his own!
JYP with a much later Nexus decides he wont be aggressive.

DT's out for JYP!
SOS block on the ramp as his observer comes out just in time.
JYP going for a second attempt.

My stream froze but I fixed it.
Meanwhile no one has died yet
Stalkers from both players are running the field.
JYP with a supperior force of 4 takes out two of SOS's.
JYP also spots the pylon and kills it.

With the Mo-Core SOS should be able to defend.
However JYP uses blink stalker harassment in the main while dts harass the natural.
Stalkers snipe SOS's mo-core!
Stalkers of JYP take out probes of SOS.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 07 2013 08:26 GMT
#757
Whoa, nice stalker harass
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
April 07 2013 08:26 GMT
#758
So many probe kills!!! SWEET >:D
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 07 2013 08:26 GMT
#759
huge mistake by shy to let those stalkers kill 14 probes
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
April 07 2013 08:26 GMT
#760
Wait... JYP doing 3 things at once ? What the fuck did Coach Park do to our toss ? o_O
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