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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 14:23:15
April 01 2013 14:21 GMT
#121
Rotti looks close to dying... o.o
edit: please don't die, Rotti!!!
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
April 01 2013 14:22 GMT
#122
On April 01 2013 23:04 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 22:21 Nerchio wrote:
That's quite a joke to be honest, mothership would have nothing to say in that game. Super had 13 probes which is super low for protoss, 2 stalkers(no gateway so no more units) vs 8 marines + 3scvs and cc going up. Even if he made mothership core at that point(which would take ~20 sec to build) he wouldn't be able to use it cause it would be too risky to fight marines and waiting for photon overcharge would need 50 more energy so also like 30 seconds and at that point MMA would be simply too far ahead.


No its not. You said ingame that no one that playes and understands the game was asked, I do play it for your information. Take as well. In TvP even though it looked good for MMA, crazier comebacks did happen and you cannot take the situation into consideration we had at the end of the game, but when he could have actually start the mothershipcore.

It didn't look good, but it was defendable and especially defendable with a mothershipcore build earlier. He had 300 gas at the end of the game, because he couldn't build a MSC. Its fine that you are unsatisfied with the decision, I would be as well, be rewarding the win to Acer would be just as bad.


Doesn't change the fact that the decision was very bad. When giving him the chance, being in a unfavorable position, it actually puts super in a favorable position for the next game.
Hell, it's about time
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 14:22:56
April 01 2013 14:22 GMT
#123
On April 01 2013 23:20 sitromit wrote:
What's the score?


MVP 4-1 Acer

MVPSuper > AcerBly
MVPSuper > AcerMMA
MVPSuper > AcerMMA (revive)
MVPSuper < AcerNerchio
MVPBang > AcerNerchio
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
April 01 2013 14:22 GMT
#124
4-1 MVP leads
PGtour admin
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
April 01 2013 14:23 GMT
#125
On April 01 2013 23:04 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 22:21 Nerchio wrote:
That's quite a joke to be honest, mothership would have nothing to say in that game. Super had 13 probes which is super low for protoss, 2 stalkers(no gateway so no more units) vs 8 marines + 3scvs and cc going up. Even if he made mothership core at that point(which would take ~20 sec to build) he wouldn't be able to use it cause it would be too risky to fight marines and waiting for photon overcharge would need 50 more energy so also like 30 seconds and at that point MMA would be simply too far ahead.


No its not. You said ingame that no one that playes and understands the game was asked, I do play it for your information. Take as well. In TvP even though it looked good for MMA, crazier comebacks did happen and you cannot take the situation into consideration we had at the end of the game, but when he could have actually start the mothershipcore.

It didn't look good, but it was defendable and especially defendable with a mothershipcore build earlier. He had 300 gas at the end of the game, because he couldn't build a MSC. Its fine that you are unsatisfied with the decision, I would be as well, be rewarding the win to Acer would be just as bad.

Not gonna argue, mothership would be useless in that situation. I think i know the game better than you so ofcourse you can say it was defendable, i said why it wasn't and pointed at stuff while you just said "it's possible to come back".
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 01 2013 14:24 GMT
#126
I just got here. what happened between MMA and Super that people are complaining about? A regame?
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 01 2013 14:24 GMT
#127
On April 01 2013 23:22 Cinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 23:04 Type|NarutO wrote:
On April 01 2013 22:21 Nerchio wrote:
That's quite a joke to be honest, mothership would have nothing to say in that game. Super had 13 probes which is super low for protoss, 2 stalkers(no gateway so no more units) vs 8 marines + 3scvs and cc going up. Even if he made mothership core at that point(which would take ~20 sec to build) he wouldn't be able to use it cause it would be too risky to fight marines and waiting for photon overcharge would need 50 more energy so also like 30 seconds and at that point MMA would be simply too far ahead.


No its not. You said ingame that no one that playes and understands the game was asked, I do play it for your information. Take as well. In TvP even though it looked good for MMA, crazier comebacks did happen and you cannot take the situation into consideration we had at the end of the game, but when he could have actually start the mothershipcore.

It didn't look good, but it was defendable and especially defendable with a mothershipcore build earlier. He had 300 gas at the end of the game, because he couldn't build a MSC. Its fine that you are unsatisfied with the decision, I would be as well, be rewarding the win to Acer would be just as bad.


Doesn't change the fact that the decision was very bad. When giving him the chance, being in a unfavorable position, it actually puts super in a favorable position for the next game.


Rewarding a team/player with a win that actually wasn't a win is the worst decision to make ever. A regame is the best call you can make in such a situation even though you may dislike it.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 14:26:48
April 01 2013 14:24 GMT
#128
I don't get it, if MMA was revived, why did Nerchio play a 2nd time? I thought you could only re-use a player for the ace match?
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 01 2013 14:25 GMT
#129
Curse of the Zerg, able to build anything they want for the same production cost. But then they decide to only build one unit type. And if the opponent is at your doorstep you make it really easy for them.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 14:26:57
April 01 2013 14:26 GMT
#130
On April 01 2013 23:23 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 23:04 Type|NarutO wrote:
On April 01 2013 22:21 Nerchio wrote:
That's quite a joke to be honest, mothership would have nothing to say in that game. Super had 13 probes which is super low for protoss, 2 stalkers(no gateway so no more units) vs 8 marines + 3scvs and cc going up. Even if he made mothership core at that point(which would take ~20 sec to build) he wouldn't be able to use it cause it would be too risky to fight marines and waiting for photon overcharge would need 50 more energy so also like 30 seconds and at that point MMA would be simply too far ahead.


No its not. You said ingame that no one that playes and understands the game was asked, I do play it for your information. Take as well. In TvP even though it looked good for MMA, crazier comebacks did happen and you cannot take the situation into consideration we had at the end of the game, but when he could have actually start the mothershipcore.

It didn't look good, but it was defendable and especially defendable with a mothershipcore build earlier. He had 300 gas at the end of the game, because he couldn't build a MSC. Its fine that you are unsatisfied with the decision, I would be as well, be rewarding the win to Acer would be just as bad.

Not gonna argue, mothership would be useless in that situation. I think i know the game better than you so ofcourse you can say it was defendable, i said why it wasn't and pointed at stuff while you just said "it's possible to come back".


I think both Super and MMA know the game better than you and MMA didn't complain for a second to Super. Whats your point? Its understandable you are not satisfied, but some people have to make hard calls and giving a win is never the right decision if the situation wasn't completely unwinnable and it certainly wasn't. Also he would have had the MSC earlier, not at the end of the game.

If you want to judge about such a situation you have to take mistakes into consideration. Mistakes on pro level, not move-command stalkers into marines or things like that. I understand your point, but imagine it would have been a deciding game 5 / 6, you cannot really decide a series on it.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
April 01 2013 14:27 GMT
#131
On April 01 2013 23:24 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 23:22 Cinim wrote:
On April 01 2013 23:04 Type|NarutO wrote:
On April 01 2013 22:21 Nerchio wrote:
That's quite a joke to be honest, mothership would have nothing to say in that game. Super had 13 probes which is super low for protoss, 2 stalkers(no gateway so no more units) vs 8 marines + 3scvs and cc going up. Even if he made mothership core at that point(which would take ~20 sec to build) he wouldn't be able to use it cause it would be too risky to fight marines and waiting for photon overcharge would need 50 more energy so also like 30 seconds and at that point MMA would be simply too far ahead.


No its not. You said ingame that no one that playes and understands the game was asked, I do play it for your information. Take as well. In TvP even though it looked good for MMA, crazier comebacks did happen and you cannot take the situation into consideration we had at the end of the game, but when he could have actually start the mothershipcore.

It didn't look good, but it was defendable and especially defendable with a mothershipcore build earlier. He had 300 gas at the end of the game, because he couldn't build a MSC. Its fine that you are unsatisfied with the decision, I would be as well, be rewarding the win to Acer would be just as bad.


Doesn't change the fact that the decision was very bad. When giving him the chance, being in a unfavorable position, it actually puts super in a favorable position for the next game.


Rewarding a team/player with a win that actually wasn't a win is the worst decision to make ever. A regame is the best call you can make in such a situation even though you may dislike it.

I said it was a win, you say it wasn't so the problem stays the same. Even admin admitted on skype he thought MMA should win but his decision was "i think it's more unfair to play WOL instead of Hots".
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 01 2013 14:27 GMT
#132
On April 01 2013 23:24 sitromit wrote:
I don't get it, if MMA was revived, why did Nerchio play a 2nd time? I thought you could only re-use a player for the ace match?


Nerchio won, its winner stays
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 01 2013 14:27 GMT
#133
On April 01 2013 23:21 JustPassingBy wrote:
Rotti looks close to dying... o.o
edit: please don't die, Rotti!!!

just tuned in so true. he should sleep more :o
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
April 01 2013 14:28 GMT
#134
oooh nice scarlett, the last hope for acer!
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 01 2013 14:28 GMT
#135
Banged up pretty bad by a macroterran xD Boy, so many talented lesser known players out there
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 01 2013 14:28 GMT
#136
On April 01 2013 23:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 23:24 sitromit wrote:
I don't get it, if MMA was revived, why did Nerchio play a 2nd time? I thought you could only re-use a player for the ace match?


Nerchio won, its winner stays


Doh!! All the barcodes in Liquipedia confused me! :p
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 01 2013 14:29 GMT
#137
On April 01 2013 23:27 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 23:24 Type|NarutO wrote:
On April 01 2013 23:22 Cinim wrote:
On April 01 2013 23:04 Type|NarutO wrote:
On April 01 2013 22:21 Nerchio wrote:
That's quite a joke to be honest, mothership would have nothing to say in that game. Super had 13 probes which is super low for protoss, 2 stalkers(no gateway so no more units) vs 8 marines + 3scvs and cc going up. Even if he made mothership core at that point(which would take ~20 sec to build) he wouldn't be able to use it cause it would be too risky to fight marines and waiting for photon overcharge would need 50 more energy so also like 30 seconds and at that point MMA would be simply too far ahead.


No its not. You said ingame that no one that playes and understands the game was asked, I do play it for your information. Take as well. In TvP even though it looked good for MMA, crazier comebacks did happen and you cannot take the situation into consideration we had at the end of the game, but when he could have actually start the mothershipcore.

It didn't look good, but it was defendable and especially defendable with a mothershipcore build earlier. He had 300 gas at the end of the game, because he couldn't build a MSC. Its fine that you are unsatisfied with the decision, I would be as well, be rewarding the win to Acer would be just as bad.


Doesn't change the fact that the decision was very bad. When giving him the chance, being in a unfavorable position, it actually puts super in a favorable position for the next game.


Rewarding a team/player with a win that actually wasn't a win is the worst decision to make ever. A regame is the best call you can make in such a situation even though you may dislike it.

I said it was a win, you say it wasn't so the problem stays the same. Even admin admitted on skype he thought MMA should win but his decision was "i think it's more unfair to play WOL instead of Hots".


From the three of us, you might know Starcraft the best, but the admin certainly the worst. Well it was decided and as said multiple times I agree with your unpleasure about it and I personally think MMA was in advantageous position, doesn't mean rewarding him is the right thing to do.

CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 01 2013 14:29 GMT
#138
On April 01 2013 23:28 govie wrote:
Banged up pretty bad by a macroterran xD Boy, so many talented lesser known players out there


Fast 3CC and double upgrades weren't punished, so Bang had a good advantage, and he capitalized by hitting that pre-Ultra timing
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 01 2013 14:35 GMT
#139
Scarlett fighting! I believe!
biamila
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada335 Posts
April 01 2013 14:37 GMT
#140
Any ETA on next game? I just woke up >.>
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