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On March 22 2013 21:22 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 21:19 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 22 2013 21:16 Arceus wrote:Poll: Swarm Host?he hasnt used it right!!! (36) 64% SH is a joke (20) 36% 56 total votes Your vote: Swarm Host? (Vote): SH is a joke
(Vote): he hasnt used it right!!!
Where's the "Squirtle read the contain as it was happening, counter attacked and broke the contain when Leenock was repositioning." option. That build Leenock used is REALLY powerful, I saw him kill so many Grandmaster Protosses with it yesterday but Squirtle just played it as well as you possibly can. It's not a weak build and not indicative of Swarm Hosts being weak at all, it was just beautiful play from Squirtle that's all there was to it. Also keep in mind that the probe got through to place a proxy pylon to allow for mass Zealot counter attacks. If that probe hadn't made it out (or if Leenock would have seen it passing beneath his Overlord) Leenock would not have needed to unburrow his Swarm Hosts to return to the Nydus and protect his base.
Yup.
Without that pylon the whole game looks super different and would've likely gone completely the other way.
Swarm Hosts are just one of those units, when they are working well they look overpowered as hell, when they aren't they look useless. This is one of the latter, but it has way more to do with Squirtle outmaneuvering Leenock than it does with anything wrong with the Swarm Host.
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Now for the ultimate question, will Squirtle thank the coach's wife in his interview? 
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opterown
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i was so so close on picking squirtle for my FGSTL but there are so many IM toss. obviously i should have, but hey, such are risks
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On March 22 2013 21:21 purakushi wrote:
I only saw the last game, but I thought someone earlier said that the studio was packed. There were tons of seats open after that last game. >_>
It's 9.30pm on a Friday night  From what I know about Koreans, it's probably time for alcohol hahaha
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 22 2013 21:24 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 21:19 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 22 2013 21:16 Arceus wrote:Poll: Swarm Host?he hasnt used it right!!! (36) 64% SH is a joke (20) 36% 56 total votes Your vote: Swarm Host? (Vote): SH is a joke
(Vote): he hasnt used it right!!!
Where's the "Squirtle read the contain as it was happening, counter attacked and broke the contain when Leenock was repositioning." option. That build Leenock used is REALLY powerful, I saw him kill so many Grandmaster Protosses with it yesterday but Squirtle just played it as well as you possibly can. It's not a weak build and not indicative of Swarm Hosts being weak at all, it was just beautiful play from Squirtle that's all there was to it. I want the SH to be a staple of some real build. This shit is purely a funky make-or-break shenanigan.
What's the definition of a "real build"?
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Leenock was destroying good people with that swarm host stuff on stream yesterday, it definitely didn't look weak. I still think it's a terribly designed unit though, lurker+impaler morphs from hydra's or roaches would be so much better imo, oh well.
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On March 22 2013 21:24 opterown wrote:
i was so so close on picking squirtle for my FGSTL but there are so many IM toss. obviously i should have, but hey, such are risks
I hear ya, chose Yonghwa and Ruin instead.
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Watching swarm hosts and their role for zerg just not exciting at all for me as a contrast to lurker in BW.
Maybe when the unit gets more figured out it will become better but I just don't find it entertaining to watch because it slows the game down.
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On March 22 2013 21:24 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 21:24 Arceus wrote:On March 22 2013 21:19 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 22 2013 21:16 Arceus wrote:Poll: Swarm Host?he hasnt used it right!!! (36) 64% SH is a joke (20) 36% 56 total votes Your vote: Swarm Host? (Vote): SH is a joke
(Vote): he hasnt used it right!!!
Where's the "Squirtle read the contain as it was happening, counter attacked and broke the contain when Leenock was repositioning." option. That build Leenock used is REALLY powerful, I saw him kill so many Grandmaster Protosses with it yesterday but Squirtle just played it as well as you possibly can. It's not a weak build and not indicative of Swarm Hosts being weak at all, it was just beautiful play from Squirtle that's all there was to it. I want the SH to be a staple of some real build. This shit is purely a funky make-or-break shenanigan. What's the definition of a "real build"?
Probably something else then pure swarm hosts.
I wish Swarm host was more exciting, such a boring unit. It's like a broodlord but in slomo.
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On March 22 2013 21:24 Assirra wrote:Now for the ultimate question, will Squirtle thank the coach's wife in his interview?
He's good. Thanked her after he raped Shine in code A :p
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On March 22 2013 21:22 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 21:21 purakushi wrote:
I only saw the last game, but I thought someone earlier said that the studio was packed. There were tons of seats open after that last game. >_> Earlier all seats were taken, and people were standing. They did have about an hour of pregame stuff, with players from each GSTL team there to speak a few words. People might've gotten bored pretty quickly after that! Jjakji was looking good though 
On March 22 2013 21:23 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 21:21 purakushi wrote:
I only saw the last game, but I thought someone earlier said that the studio was packed. There were tons of seats open after that last game. >_> Too much pizza. Everyone went to the bathroom.
Thanks for the responses. Haha
I feel games involving Protoss really tend to be the most boring of matchups. Sigh, SC2 Protoss...
And Terran games tend to be more exciting. I hope HotS can bring in more Korean viewers.
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needs some more terraners tomorrow!!
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On March 22 2013 21:24 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 21:19 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 22 2013 21:16 Arceus wrote:Poll: Swarm Host?he hasnt used it right!!! (36) 64% SH is a joke (20) 36% 56 total votes Your vote: Swarm Host? (Vote): SH is a joke
(Vote): he hasnt used it right!!!
Where's the "Squirtle read the contain as it was happening, counter attacked and broke the contain when Leenock was repositioning." option. That build Leenock used is REALLY powerful, I saw him kill so many Grandmaster Protosses with it yesterday but Squirtle just played it as well as you possibly can. It's not a weak build and not indicative of Swarm Hosts being weak at all, it was just beautiful play from Squirtle that's all there was to it. I want the SH to be a staple of some real build. This shit is purely a funky make-or-break shenanigan.
You expect pro players to take a brand new and completely unorthodox unit and create a staple build for their race in only a month of playing HoTS which is about as long as most have been playing it including beta when you consider they were still training for WoL while the beta was going on.
Give it some time, new builds take time to innovate and perfect.
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On March 22 2013 21:24 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 21:24 Arceus wrote:On March 22 2013 21:19 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 22 2013 21:16 Arceus wrote:Poll: Swarm Host?he hasnt used it right!!! (36) 64% SH is a joke (20) 36% 56 total votes Your vote: Swarm Host? (Vote): SH is a joke
(Vote): he hasnt used it right!!!
Where's the "Squirtle read the contain as it was happening, counter attacked and broke the contain when Leenock was repositioning." option. That build Leenock used is REALLY powerful, I saw him kill so many Grandmaster Protosses with it yesterday but Squirtle just played it as well as you possibly can. It's not a weak build and not indicative of Swarm Hosts being weak at all, it was just beautiful play from Squirtle that's all there was to it. I want the SH to be a staple of some real build. This shit is purely a funky make-or-break shenanigan. What's the definition of a "real build"?
I think it fits into that "real starcraft games go for 30 minutes" ideology or something.
I like the swarm host idea, but ive no idea how to use it... so I'll just ling bling muta my heart away!
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On March 22 2013 21:22 TeeTS wrote:"My team was behind, so I had to win." IM coach will be happy to see that at least one of his players knows what to do Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 21:22 opterown wrote:
kind of lackluster games today to be honest, hope upcoming matches are better! Has to be expected. Game is absolutely not figured out and players might not be used to everything thrown at them in these matches.
I don't know why people don't like the game when its fresh and people are feeling out things. The excitement potential is so much better when people are apt to do anything. The surprise and creativity is better for viewers than mechanical play, even perfect mechanical play.
I remember how exciting the games were in the first GSL. Every new thing that FD did was incredible because I hadn't seen it. In the last GSL of WOL there wasn't anything new so it was a lot less fun to watch.
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Yeah Squirtle with 3 kills. Good start for my FGSTL
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On March 22 2013 21:26 MCDayC wrote:
How do impalers work?
They work well.
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On March 22 2013 21:24 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 21:24 Arceus wrote:On March 22 2013 21:19 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 22 2013 21:16 Arceus wrote:Poll: Swarm Host?he hasnt used it right!!! (36) 64% SH is a joke (20) 36% 56 total votes Your vote: Swarm Host? (Vote): SH is a joke
(Vote): he hasnt used it right!!!
Where's the "Squirtle read the contain as it was happening, counter attacked and broke the contain when Leenock was repositioning." option. That build Leenock used is REALLY powerful, I saw him kill so many Grandmaster Protosses with it yesterday but Squirtle just played it as well as you possibly can. It's not a weak build and not indicative of Swarm Hosts being weak at all, it was just beautiful play from Squirtle that's all there was to it. I want the SH to be a staple of some real build. This shit is purely a funky make-or-break shenanigan. What's the definition of a "real build"?
Something that wons enough that you go 70-0 against Life in practice games.
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New studio a lot bigger, too bad they can't fit all audience in there. I like how we can see Korean commentators in background TV.
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