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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 23:56:28
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7101
In the Ro8:

6 T, 2 P
5 KeSPA, 3 Non

Watch.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7102
On March 17 2013 08:50 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:47 Bam Lee wrote:
i have a feeling people are underestimating the amount of effort it takes to play like innovation did o.O


I have a great deal of respect for Innovation's insane multitasking, but I'll admit I get kind of frustrated when a player as good as Leenock can't even take a game because there is no way to defend everywhere at once, and there seems to be no way to stop the drops.

I'm confident the Zergs will find a way eventually, but this series was brutal.


Maybe the reason is Leenock is just not good enough, Life probably can do better.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Bore
Profile Joined March 2013
44 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7103
On March 17 2013 08:53 mordk wrote:
People stop with this whining, boost is at an advantage because it's an ability that needs to be reacted to, and since the game is young players haven't developed the correct responses yet. You need to shut up and wait


Wait 2 years like in wol? and then balance is swinged totally to another corner.
newbieman
Profile Joined March 2013
3 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7104
I have't follow the SC2 pro scene for a while , when did flash start playing competitively on SC2?
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7105
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch


Protoss seemed well represented, at least initially.
? Bear in mind Seed, Hero, got knocked out. Parting/MC/Rain are still in the tournament.

Zerg, Leenock and Life are pretty two of the top Zergs no? Sure it would be nice to have Hyun in the mix as well, but Zerg doesn't seem to be doing well in HOTS, hence all the balance whining.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46452 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7106
On March 17 2013 08:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:51 rice_devOurer wrote:
Flash is probably thinking of how he all-killed EG-TL (QQ)


EG-TL: Encounter God, Total Loss


Every Game, They Lose x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7107
thorzain spends months grinding more HotS games than anyone else in a korean team house.

loses to killer at MLG
th3_great
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom429 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7108
how the hell is thorzain losing to killer...jesus
did you read the script?
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7109
On March 17 2013 08:52 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch

There is a reason they are not here. They got slaughtered by Terrans in the qualifiers.

in qualifiers that were done during beta....
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7110

On March 17 2013 08:53 sitromit wrote:
Flash doesn't play the bio/mine style that Bogus and Last used and plays more passively. Ret still has a chance.


haha... ok
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7111
this game is so messy
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7112
On March 17 2013 08:53 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:52 S_SienZ wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:51 Tobblish wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch


You you realize that Life and Leenock is in the top 4 Zerg at least.
Stephano is a foreigner zerg that haven't adjusted well against koreans right now and certainly not HOTS.

2 of the top 4 Zergs vs 8 of the top 10 Terrans, gee I wonder why Zerg isnt doing better this tourney.

TB's point stands.

It doesn't, all the best Zergs but Life and Leenock lost in qualifiers


Life and Leenock are only at MLG because they placed in the Top 4 at MLG Fall Championship - they did not participate in the qualifiers.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7113
On March 17 2013 08:54 Talos[GER] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:53 RogerShah wrote:
No EG-player surviving the first round :/


...as expected.




Havent they just released their most skillful player recently. Terran is on the up and they dump him , epic timing
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7114
The elitists in this thread are becoming ridiculous :/
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
March 16 2013 23:55 GMT
#7115
Did the entire EG team get food poisoning or something?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
March 16 2013 23:56 GMT
#7116
I don't think speedivacs in themselves are necessarily broken, it's more the combination of having speedivacs and the best space control units in the game in the shape of widow mines, tanks with siege as a native mechanic and PFs. That allows terrans to prevent opponents from expanding/putting pressure on them in general while they can still macro pretty safely themselves and build a superior economy.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
March 16 2013 23:56 GMT
#7117
I have never rooted against Thorzain, but I've also never seen him play so boring either. When compared to every other Terran in this tourney, it's almost like he's playing a different race.
$♥$
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 23:57:09
March 16 2013 23:56 GMT
#7118
On March 17 2013 08:53 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:44 Darpa wrote:
Guys, the game is a week old, stop freaking out about terran. You gotta remember zerg dominated MLGs and other tournies for months before this came out. Give it some time before you freak about balance.


We remember, but zergs spent year figuring out how to win with the tools they had. This just feels like terran has had it handed to them....


Oh please. Like all the nerfs/buffs and bigger maps had nothing to do with the changes and it was all 'learning to use the tools'? Try to be at least a little bit objective here.

The point remains that Zergs are floating 2k+ minerals and not building static D. Terrans built turrets, sensor towers, and even planetaries to defend and control space. P build cannons and leave HT to feedback medivacs. Why should Z NOT have to do something similar? If there were masses of spines/spores and drops were still this devestating THEN we might have a problem... but I can't see how anyone can argue that floating thousands of minerals and leaving bases wide open is anyone's fault but their own.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
March 16 2013 23:56 GMT
#7119
I have no idea what Thorzain has been up to the last few months. He's looking just terrible.
hundred thousand krouner
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
March 16 2013 23:56 GMT
#7120
Husky putting in a basketball reference?
jjakji fan
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