• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:33
CEST 12:33
KST 19:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy8[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple1BSL Season 235Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
Guide To Watching Ancient Brood War Replays screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool Bot on ladder [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy Oldest replay file.
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9174 users

[MLG] Day 2 Winter Championship - Page 358

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 356 357 358 359 360 640 Next
The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 16 2013 23:57 GMT
#7141
On March 17 2013 08:56 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Flash is known for top 5 plays.


Well played ^^
AdministratorBreak the chains
eMGmoG
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland244 Posts
March 16 2013 23:57 GMT
#7142
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch


Protoss has/had with creator, parting, rain & mc the best of the world in the booth. its just a super stacked tournament, but I agree with you that terran has more top players than the other races at this tourney
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
March 16 2013 23:57 GMT
#7143
On March 17 2013 07:43 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 07:42 Daogin wrote:
Leenock vs innovation cant wait

I cant wait for Leenock to end the ridiculous Bogus hype train

Hey. Can you say that again?
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 16 2013 23:57 GMT
#7144
--- Nuked ---
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11108 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 23:58:11
March 16 2013 23:57 GMT
#7145
On March 17 2013 08:55 Daogin wrote:
The elitists in this thread are becoming ridiculous :/


What? Noone has mentioned BW or the TLS yet and at 1 tomorrow you can have the chance to see Nemu BM the shit out people in a refined game.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
March 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#7146
On March 17 2013 08:52 Bore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch


the reason for that might be that they didnt qualify.....


they didn't qualify because MLG qualifer was done in early beta, which is far from what the game is now
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
March 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#7147
On March 17 2013 08:57 Dodgin wrote:
Thorzain first Terran to lose to a non Terran ;o


he's sick apparently lol
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#7148
--- Nuked ---
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
March 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#7149
You need to stop with all the ferrarivac whining. What many people are not noticing is that the terran lineup for this tournament is ABSOLUTELY KILLER. Probably 70%+ or so of the top 10 terrans in the world are in this 32 man bracket. Of course terran will win a lot, even if this was WoL.
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 23:58:51
March 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#7150
I like how blue stream is 2.5 hours behind schedule

In other news, sad Thorzain going out only Terran to lose a non-TvT so far this tournament
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
March 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#7151
These Top five could be more accuratly named "Flash does something".
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
March 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#7152
On March 17 2013 08:53 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:44 Darpa wrote:
Guys, the game is a week old, stop freaking out about terran. You gotta remember zerg dominated MLGs and other tournies for months before this came out. Give it some time before you freak about balance.


We remember, but zergs spent year figuring out how to win with the tools they had. This just feels like terran has had it handed to them....


Zerg received buffs, they didn't only figure things out (queen buff, overlord speed buff, infestors buff)
...
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
March 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#7153
On March 17 2013 08:53 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:51 m0ck wrote:
I actually think ret has a decent chance against Flash, Bly got very close to drawing the game @ 2-2 and there's no reason ret shouldn't be able to do the same.


Actually you might be very wrong. While i agree with you, Ret has said that he is having lots of problems and tough times against Terran.

I take it as Ret's weakest match-up.

Well, every zerg has trouble against terran, but he has had a chance to see flash's games and will be prepared and with something up his sleeve. Flash's play was not on the level of bogus/innovation yesterday. I fear for taxing of his multi-tasking, but to be honest I find flash a bit overrated in that respect.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
March 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#7154
On March 17 2013 08:57 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:55 Daogin wrote:
The elitists in this thread are becoming ridiculous :/


What? Noone has mentioned BW or the TLS yet and at 1 tomorrow you can have the chance to see Nemu BM the shit out people in a refined game.

Oh the irony.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#7155
On March 17 2013 08:57 Dodgin wrote:
Thorzain first Terran to lose to a non Terran ;o


When you watched his games you can surly tell why.
And I want to clarify, he's losing because Killer is just the better player in these games.
The curse is real
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#7156
On March 17 2013 08:57 Dodgin wrote:
Thorzain first Terran to lose to a non Terran ;o


He's the only Terran who isn't from South Korea.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
March 16 2013 23:59 GMT
#7157
On March 17 2013 08:54 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:53 Diavlo wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:43 WhiteSatin wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:41 ThomasR wrote:
So, zergs used to go mutas in part to shut down terran drop play, but now that mutas are not able to do so...


so zergs are not making spores/spines - in game 2 leenock had 2000 mins at one point and kept making drones, just to keep loosing them cause he did not build a single spine/spore...

They need to adapt..
Zergs were used to leaving home 1 infestor and a move couple lings and the drop was gonna be destroyed 100% of the time, now that is FINALLY more powerful, zergs have to adapt, just like terrrans had to suck it up hardcore when the queen/infestor buff took place.
Let them adapt


Yes because Leenock never had to play ling-bling-mutas without relying on infestors to counter heavy drop play from Terrans in the past right? Surely he wasn't doing just that for a year before the queen buff right?

Oh wait...


Broham, for the last time. Leenock goes for a 2-base timing, gets supply blocked (because imba), does 0 damage, yes, he's behind against a 3-base terran.

From that spot, can the best TvZ player around be allowed to win the game when he multitasks like no other?

Innovation thanks you for your understanding.


What does that have to do with what i'm saying? I watched the game, Leenock was loosing way before the medivacs were wrecking is base.

But implying that he needs to "learn who to do something else than sitting 1 infestor and a few lings to deter drops" is fucking insulting.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 16 2013 23:59 GMT
#7158
On March 17 2013 08:53 Assirra wrote:
Zerg needed another anti air unit, why blizzard gave vipers instead of fixing infestors i will never know.
The big problem is that zerg units simply suck in low numbers so dropps are like a kick in the nuts.
why no scourge


With scourge certain units, like colossus, voidrays, ravens, and vipers would probably never, ever be made again. They would be harder to balance than widow mines : /
duct_TAPE
Profile Joined May 2011
492 Posts
March 16 2013 23:59 GMT
#7159
On March 17 2013 08:56 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:55 edgeOut wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:50 Zealously wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:47 Bam Lee wrote:
i have a feeling people are underestimating the amount of effort it takes to play like innovation did o.O


I have a great deal of respect for Innovation's insane multitasking, but I'll admit I get kind of frustrated when a player as good as Leenock can't even take a game because there is no way to defend everywhere at once, and there seems to be no way to stop the drops.

I'm confident the Zergs will find a way eventually, but this series was brutal.


Maybe the reason is Leenock is just not good enough, Life probably can do better.

Oh boy here it comes.

Prepare for another "Terran are just better players thread" soon.


Leenock not good enough? Are you serious? He is one of the most talented zergs in the game.
"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
March 16 2013 23:59 GMT
#7160
On March 17 2013 08:56 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:55 edgeOut wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:50 Zealously wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:47 Bam Lee wrote:
i have a feeling people are underestimating the amount of effort it takes to play like innovation did o.O


I have a great deal of respect for Innovation's insane multitasking, but I'll admit I get kind of frustrated when a player as good as Leenock can't even take a game because there is no way to defend everywhere at once, and there seems to be no way to stop the drops.

I'm confident the Zergs will find a way eventually, but this series was brutal.


Maybe the reason is Leenock is just not good enough, Life probably can do better.

Oh boy here it comes.

Prepare for another "Terran are just better players thread" soon.


Well, for quite a bit, in game 2 at least, Leenock was playing with his entire army in one hotkey. Eventually he left units in multiple spots, but INnoVation did have quite superior multitasking. MC said Zerg players became poor because they were so used to using just a couple units all in one clump.

I do think in this case INnoVation is a better player than Leenock, but I also think the games would've been quite different against someone like Life.
Prev 1 356 357 358 359 360 640 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro8 Match 2
Light vs EffOrt
Afreeca ASL 11520
StarCastTV_EN261
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #147 (SHIN Mod Edition)
ByuN197
CranKy Ducklings79
SHIN 25
CranKy Ducklings SOOP14
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko302
ByuN 197
SHIN 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 6535
Jaedong 4982
Soulkey 1714
Rain 1439
BeSt 794
Zeus 280
Hyuk 265
Larva 208
Rush 204
ggaemo 190
[ Show more ]
Stork 174
Leta 171
Barracks 136
hero 131
Killer 74
ToSsGirL 58
Sexy 54
Shinee 44
soO 31
Shine 29
Hm[arnc] 19
sorry 15
scan(afreeca) 12
SilentControl 10
Noble 9
JulyZerg 8
Dota 2
Gorgc4213
XaKoH 472
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss1012
markeloff60
kRYSTAL_52
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr29
Other Games
olofmeister1358
singsing1353
ceh9548
XBOCT394
B2W.Neo305
Pyrionflax108
Mew2King44
amsayoshi31
crisheroes6
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream6540
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream2046
Other Games
gamesdonequick521
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 215
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• WagamamaTV122
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 27m
PiGosaur Cup
13h 27m
Kung Fu Cup
1d
The PondCast
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
GSL
4 days
Yamato Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.