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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7081
Let's not forget that Leenock failed to scout a handful of these drops and they proved to be very damaging. Information gathering is a huge part of starcraft, some could say that it is the most important part of strategy games.
o choro é livre
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 23:53:32
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7082
Zerg needed another anti air unit, why blizzard gave vipers instead of fixing infestors i will never know.
The big problem is that zerg units simply suck in low numbers so dropps are like a kick in the nuts.
why no scourge
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7083
On March 17 2013 08:52 Bore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch


the reason for that might be that they didnt qualify.....

True, but the reason for that is they qualifiers where played pre Hellbat nerf.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7084
On March 17 2013 08:43 WhiteSatin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:41 ThomasR wrote:
So, zergs used to go mutas in part to shut down terran drop play, but now that mutas are not able to do so...


so zergs are not making spores/spines - in game 2 leenock had 2000 mins at one point and kept making drones, just to keep loosing them cause he did not build a single spine/spore...

They need to adapt..
Zergs were used to leaving home 1 infestor and a move couple lings and the drop was gonna be destroyed 100% of the time, now that is FINALLY more powerful, zergs have to adapt, just like terrrans had to suck it up hardcore when the queen/infestor buff took place.
Let them adapt


Yes because Leenock never had to play ling-bling-mutas without relying on infestors to counter heavy drop play from Terrans in the past right? Surely he wasn't doing just that for a year before the queen buff right?

Oh wait...
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7085
On March 17 2013 08:44 Darpa wrote:
Guys, the game is a week old, stop freaking out about terran. You gotta remember zerg dominated MLGs and other tournies for months before this came out. Give it some time before you freak about balance.


We remember, but zergs spent year figuring out how to win with the tools they had. This just feels like terran has had it handed to them....
pvpeep
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada228 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7086
I don't mind all terrans.. more food for Life!
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 23:54:05
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7087
People stop with this whining, boost is at an advantage because it's an ability that needs to be reacted to, and since the game is young players haven't developed the correct responses yet. You need to shut up and wait
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7088
On March 17 2013 08:51 m0ck wrote:
I actually think ret has a decent chance against Flash, Bly got very close to drawing the game @ 2-2 and there's no reason ret shouldn't be able to do the same.


Actually you might be very wrong. While i agree with you, Ret has said that he is having lots of problems and tough times against Terran.

I take it as Ret's weakest match-up.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7089
--- Nuked ---
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7090
I hate to root against Thorzain, but my bracket does have KiLLeR winning : /
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 23:54:25
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7091
Is this finally the point where Thorzain loses?

Edit: NOPE
RogerShah
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands131 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7092
No EG-player surviving the first round :/
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 23:54:08
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7093
On March 17 2013 08:52 Kala23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:50 absinthfee wrote:
wait for life to slay those terrans.


i don't see it happening

He beat flash on launching day with blinding cloud.

EDIT- although he lost after flash watched the replay
IN SOVIET RUSSIA ノ┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\ Table Flips you
Hydrate
Profile Joined March 2013
United States23 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7094
I hate these long waits =\ Just tuned in and I want to watch flash vs ret.
MCMXVI
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1193 Posts
March 16 2013 23:54 GMT
#7095
Kinda funny that all the protosess who advanced were from mirror matches :p

All in all, the matches have been great. Love the format and the free 720p!
In capitalist America, bank robs YOU!
Talos[GER]
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany56 Posts
March 16 2013 23:54 GMT
#7096
On March 17 2013 08:53 RogerShah wrote:
No EG-player surviving the first round :/


...as expected.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 23:55:08
March 16 2013 23:54 GMT
#7097
On March 17 2013 08:53 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:43 WhiteSatin wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:41 ThomasR wrote:
So, zergs used to go mutas in part to shut down terran drop play, but now that mutas are not able to do so...


so zergs are not making spores/spines - in game 2 leenock had 2000 mins at one point and kept making drones, just to keep loosing them cause he did not build a single spine/spore...

They need to adapt..
Zergs were used to leaving home 1 infestor and a move couple lings and the drop was gonna be destroyed 100% of the time, now that is FINALLY more powerful, zergs have to adapt, just like terrrans had to suck it up hardcore when the queen/infestor buff took place.
Let them adapt


Yes because Leenock never had to play ling-bling-mutas without relying on infestors to counter heavy drop play from Terrans in the past right? Surely he wasn't doing just that for a year before the queen buff right?

Oh wait...


Broham, for the last time. Leenock goes for a 2-base timing, gets supply blocked (because imba), does 0 damage, yes, he's behind against a 3-base terran.

From that spot, can the best TvZ player around be allowed to win the game when he multitasks like no other?

Innovation thanks you for your understanding.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 16 2013 23:54 GMT
#7098
On March 17 2013 08:53 sitromit wrote:
Flash doesn't play the bio/mine style that Bogus and Last used and plays more passively. Ret still has a chance.


Bly is a lot better in ZvT compared to ret. I don't think he will stand a chance.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
March 16 2013 23:54 GMT
#7099
On March 17 2013 08:53 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:52 S_SienZ wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:51 Tobblish wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch


You you realize that Life and Leenock is in the top 4 Zerg at least.
Stephano is a foreigner zerg that haven't adjusted well against koreans right now and certainly not HOTS.

2 of the top 4 Zergs vs 8 of the top 10 Terrans, gee I wonder why Zerg isnt doing better this tourney.

TB's point stands.

It doesn't, all the best Zergs but Life and Leenock lost in qualifiers

and all the best Terrans lost in the WCS KR qualifiers. It happens.
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
March 16 2013 23:54 GMT
#7100
On March 17 2013 08:53 sitromit wrote:
Flash doesn't play the bio/mine style that Bogus and Last used and plays more passively. Ret still has a chance.


I guess you didn't see the showmatch Life vs FlaSh @ the HotS launch party?
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