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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
March 16 2013 23:51 GMT
#7061
On March 17 2013 08:50 templar rage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:47 Bam Lee wrote:
i have a feeling people are underestimating the amount of effort it takes to play like innovation did o.O


I think an equal amount of people are also overestimating the effectiveness of static defenses against drops, especially the double drops that Innovation was using quite a bit.


The 4 medivacs "doom" drops are indeed not defendable by static defenses. Well we gotta wait and see what the pros figure out
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
March 16 2013 23:51 GMT
#7062
Rain and jjakji are about to go coma from waiting so much
...
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
March 16 2013 23:51 GMT
#7063
I actually think ret has a decent chance against Flash, Bly got very close to drawing the game @ 2-2 and there's no reason ret shouldn't be able to do the same.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
March 16 2013 23:51 GMT
#7064
On March 17 2013 08:45 Hylirion wrote:
The terrans are back baby!

[image loading]

(Poster made by Nicopower5000 from this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=263421)

holy fucking shit this is the best thing ever!!!
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
March 16 2013 23:51 GMT
#7065
Jjakji in the background just waiting...
jjakji fan
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 16 2013 23:51 GMT
#7066
On March 17 2013 08:51 rice_devOurer wrote:
Flash is probably thinking of how he all-killed EG-TL (QQ)


EG-TL: Encounter God, Total Loss
AdministratorBreak the chains
Bore
Profile Joined March 2013
44 Posts
March 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#7067
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch


the reason for that might be that they didnt qualify.....
duct_TAPE
Profile Joined May 2011
492 Posts
March 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#7068
On March 17 2013 08:43 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:42 duct_TAPE wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:41 Wrathsc2 wrote:
leenock playing terrible


leenock playing greeat


Leenock ignores static defense 3 games in a row and loses loads of drones every time. If that's great play, I feel that the game was soured by zerg skill in WoL.


You don't build static defence when you're behind a base to a terran, you expand further or attack. Turtling up building spines and spores when you're behind on eco is an amateur move.
"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
Kala23
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany230 Posts
March 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#7069
On March 17 2013 08:50 absinthfee wrote:
wait for life to slay those terrans.


i don't see it happening
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#7070
I like killers overseer muta micro, does a good job of skirting in and out with the overseer to spot for mines while keeping the mutas moving just out of range
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
March 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#7071
On March 17 2013 08:51 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch


You you realize that Life and Leenock is in the top 4 Zerg at least.
Stephano is a foreigner zerg that haven't adjusted well against koreans right now and certainly not HOTS.

2 of the top 4 Zergs vs 8 of the top 10 Terrans, gee I wonder why Zerg isnt doing better this tourney.

TB's point stands.
Kaw
Profile Joined February 2011
United States74 Posts
March 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#7072
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch


Thats because all the zerg talent got knocked out in the qualifiers lol...
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
March 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#7073
On March 17 2013 08:51 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:45 Hylirion wrote:
The terrans are back baby!

[image loading]

(Poster made by Nicopower5000 from this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=263421)

holy fucking shit this is the best thing ever!!!

Spoiler that image man
jjakji fan
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
March 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#7074
On March 17 2013 08:50 scaban84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:48 Qikz wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:47 scaban84 wrote:
I don't see any viable way for Zergs to stop drop pay besides turtling hardcore until max. Mutas can't stop drops, Infestors can't stop drops anymore. Zergs cannot move outside of their base anymore. There is no point.


I saw mutas kill a lot of dropships, I don't know if you have selective sight or blink a lot, but mutas are certainly not useless against drops.

I don't know if you can see moving objects because medivac boost makes them faster than mutas. This means you can unload in any situation and save your drop. Loading up and going for it carries no risk anymore.


Medivac boost isn't a constant speed you realise, it isn't like BW zealot legs.

Innovation lost plenty of full medivacs in that series.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
March 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#7075
Ret fighting!!!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#7076
--- Nuked ---
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
March 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#7077
is thorzain the only terran to lose to zerg this weekend?
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7078
On March 17 2013 08:51 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch


You you realize that Life and Leenock is in the top 4 Zerg at least.
Stephano is a foreigner zerg that haven't adjusted well against koreans right now and certainly not HOTS.


also the reason all the terran are here is because the tvz winrate in the korean qualifiers was 100%, if it wasnt for seeds from previous mlg there was a good chance for 0 korean zergs at the heart of the swarm mlg
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7079
Flash doesn't play the bio/mine style that Bogus and Last used and plays more passively. Ret still has a chance.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
March 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#7080
On March 17 2013 08:52 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:51 Tobblish wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:48 iky43210 wrote:
can't emphasize on TB's point enough. Most of the top terran in sc2 are in MLG, whereas not really for protoss and zerg. MVP, flash, innovation, bomber, last, mkp, Taeja, Polt?

what does the zerg have? Leenock and life, maybe stephano and sen.

Racewise its so stack it just isn't fair. But skillwise, this is a great MLG to watch


You you realize that Life and Leenock is in the top 4 Zerg at least.
Stephano is a foreigner zerg that haven't adjusted well against koreans right now and certainly not HOTS.

2 of the top 4 Zergs vs 8 of the top 10 Terrans, gee I wonder why Zerg isnt doing better this tourney.

TB's point stands.

I wont be surprised if life makes it through this tournament, his style is completely different so we will see.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
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