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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
pvpeep
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada228 Posts
March 16 2013 21:38 GMT
#4881
Creator looks frustrated with PvT
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
March 16 2013 21:38 GMT
#4882
Theres probably not one player who benefits more from hots than polt atm tbh :p
Amove for Aiur
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 16 2013 21:38 GMT
#4883
I think the faces tell it all. Polt looks calm and stoic, but Creator appears very flustered and confused.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 16 2013 21:38 GMT
#4884
On March 17 2013 06:37 rift wrote:
koreans 27-4 foreigners..has it ever been rougher than that


Some of the MLG's in 2011 maybe.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
March 16 2013 21:38 GMT
#4885
On March 17 2013 06:37 suicideyear wrote:
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On March 17 2013 06:36 Yello wrote:
wow that engagement was just a huge derp from Creator. What the hell was he thinking?


he's 16/17, so probably "did I leave the oven on?"

Yeah. Did i leave the oven on... IN KOREA?
The Bomber boy
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4886
On March 17 2013 06:36 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:32 farvacola wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:21 farvacola wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:18 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.


They practice smarter and longer. That's about it.

Ehh, I'm not so sure it's so simple. There is most certainly a cultural element at work in Korean dominance; 'tis not only how they practice but why they practice.


What I said is a general description that does not take into account the infrastructure, community, schedules, personnel, or personal motivation of Korean teams. But all of it serves to create better dedicated practice, which is the key difference between Korean and foreign players. The very best players usually create their own specific schedules and habits which distinguishes them from their peers.

Yes, and my point is that there is a reason that those who benefit from or are able to devote themselves to dedicated practice in the manner you describe are Korean. I mean, you can stop at "it's the practice", but I'm more interested in why Koreans are so able and willing to practice in such a way. Try as they might, foreigners are seemingly unable to recreate it in any way, be it by traveling to Korea or creating a domestic team house. There is more at work here than just practice.


The gaming culture is different. eSports is treated as a legit career in Korea, which people are willing to sacrifice their youth for. Competition is sponsored by major corporations, and broadcast on TV.

Imagine Apple, Microsoft, Boeing, etc. coming in and sponsoring eSports teams in the West, and it being shown regularly on Cable TV, and local heroes who are the talk of the day in high schools and colleges. That's the equivalent of what Korea has.

3 years ago, yes
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11089 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4887
On March 17 2013 06:37 bittman wrote:
Creator's face looks like he's given up a bit =(


How the hell does he come back? Absolutely no way to chip economy down in this position in sc2.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 21:39:53
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4888
The strange thing about Creator being so flustered is he's not dead yet. Sure, he's quite behind, but if Polt engages poorly, Creator can close the gap.

EDIT: Okay, nevermind.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 21:40:13
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4889
On March 17 2013 06:35 DOUDOU wrote:
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On March 17 2013 06:32 Dodgin wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:31 DOUDOU wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:26 Tenshix wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:22 iky43210 wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:20 Paincakez wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:18 Mensol wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 5ukkub wrote:
http://bashtech.net/twitch/stats.php

Starcraft 131k > LoL 95k !!


Starcraft is dying

LoL 123k > Starcraft 116k

http://www.twitch.tv/ and LoL game just started.

Watching LoL streams is like watching paint dry. I definitely anticipate a huge influx of players constantly coming to SC for esports.


LoL has 32 million active users, they have plenty of people they can grab through marketing and advertising to watch their streams.

100k viewers is like 0.3% of its playerbase. Though this should tell you how dedicated starcraft fans are relative to the playersize


Haha, I was going to say that too. 32 million players yet they can only pull in 100k to watch MLG, while SC2 only has a few million (4 million?) and we are able to get the same amount.

there's no MLG for lol, just the same championship games they get every single week
there was a showmatch, but it was yesterday


wait there's no MLG for LoL? why not and why is MLG hosting the LCS games then

because riot has an agreement with mlg

but it's just regular LCS games, nothing hype enough to get a million viewers like the spring finals will


1 million viewers is only 3% of its user base, though most of its big tourneys range from 100-300k and the 1 mill concurrent report is very sketchy.

LoL is a massive game atm, though personally I find it a complete waste of time and I got to high plat last season. 1 hour per game burned away in that will most likely be a complete waste of time with trolls and 16y/o BMs, blame war, lots of down time, few actions, and winning/losing have much more to do with your luck than actually being good at the game.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4890
On March 17 2013 06:38 pvpeep wrote:
Creator looks frustrated with PvT


Hahaha.

So this is the first game creator has played live for HotS. He looks annoyed because he's made some mistakes and losing. "Frustrated with entire matchup!"
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4891
On March 17 2013 06:28 dcsoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:24 Bowzar wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:19 dcsoda wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.


They don't practice equally though. Also Koreans don't have to stream as much as foreigners do because of the infrastructure already in place with the team houses in Korea. So it has a lot to do with the infrastructure allowing them to practice like crazy without worrying about exposure and the willingness to do so.


The infrastructure didnt build itself though. Most ESF Koreans sacrificed salary for a practice house. The problem with the foreign scene is that all the major tournaments are spread out. They need something like the GSL to center their houses around.


No it didn't build itself but the point about space is key. There's no infrastructure outside of Korea to allow players to sacrifice money for practice. Unfortunately I don't really see it happening anytime soon.


There has been a lot of practice houses outside of Korea, the problem is that foreign teams have no fucking clue how to develop talent and run their houses properly. EG house, Millenium house, TLOs Swedish house, Complexity house, Quantic house etc.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4892
On March 17 2013 06:36 Sabu113 wrote:
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On March 17 2013 06:34 sc2holar wrote:
i wonder if protoss players realize how powerful void rays are nowdays. i think some kind of chargelot voidray timing with sheild upgrades (boosts both air and ground defence) with a mothership core and templar tech as a followup could be incredibly deadly in almost every matchup. if you are doing some kind of timing push, there is really no reason to get a single stalker cause void rays offers so much more for the buck


Oh yeah. that'll do well against marines.

not a problem with chargelots tanking the front, then voidrays can outrange marines bro
you no take candle
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4893
Oh my, Polt is just scarier with Ignite Afterburners.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4894
blizzard wanted to see more drop play, guess they got their wish x.x
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4895
Creator lacking multitasking
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4896
On March 17 2013 06:39 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:38 pvpeep wrote:
Creator looks frustrated with PvT


Hahaha.

So this is the first game creator has played live for HotS. He looks annoyed because he's made some mistakes and losing. "Frustrated with entire matchup!"

imagine a player like polt or mvp sending empty medivacs
the throws never bothered me anyway
Bore
Profile Joined March 2013
44 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4897
turbovacs are bane to protoss too it seems
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4898
Who is this scrub foreigner Polt is playing, he can't handle drops at all..
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4899
On March 17 2013 06:37 PhoenixVoid wrote:
One thing I noticed what Polt changed about his macro is building OCs en masse. He used to bank a lot of minerals, but now he seemed to fix this recently.

That's the craziest thing I noticed ever since he started playing HOTS tournaments. You'd think that moving to the U.S., securing sponsors, and going back to school would make him worse, but his macro is finally on par with his engagement management.
Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
March 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#4900
When did the advertisment for live events come, in the ingame sc2 interface?
So that is why the viewer count for this MLG is so high, usually it's not even over 50k at a given time?
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