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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
March 16 2013 21:40 GMT
#4921
Medivac boost doesn't change a lot of things at my level (low master level) but damn how it becomes SOOO powerfull in the hand of people who have the ability to double/triple drop.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4922
Polt surprisingly got more terrifying after staying in Texas. His macro improved greatly, and HotS game him some new toys to collaborate with his excellent Bio control.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
LeanMeanMacroMachine
Profile Joined May 2012
54 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4923
On March 17 2013 06:39 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Oh my, Polt is just scarier with Ignite Afterburners.

I don't understand. Did you expect him to be less scary with buffed medivacs?
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4924
Why doesn't he use nexus cannon? I'd at least throw a few cannons down in those air lanes too.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4925
Potential balance issues aside.... These speed medivacs make for good entertainment imo, Constant aggression and attacks multi prong attacks etc. much better to watch then turtle up death balls.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4926
Is the "i" word allowed? Thinking of thosed med-i-vac...
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4927
On March 17 2013 06:40 pvpeep wrote:
Yeah medivacs seem too strong....


They dont look stronger than WoL. I've seen the exact same level of dismantling happen in WoL too by players like Polt.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4928
On March 17 2013 06:39 rift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:36 Azarkon wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:32 farvacola wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:21 farvacola wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:18 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.


They practice smarter and longer. That's about it.

Ehh, I'm not so sure it's so simple. There is most certainly a cultural element at work in Korean dominance; 'tis not only how they practice but why they practice.


What I said is a general description that does not take into account the infrastructure, community, schedules, personnel, or personal motivation of Korean teams. But all of it serves to create better dedicated practice, which is the key difference between Korean and foreign players. The very best players usually create their own specific schedules and habits which distinguishes them from their peers.

Yes, and my point is that there is a reason that those who benefit from or are able to devote themselves to dedicated practice in the manner you describe are Korean. I mean, you can stop at "it's the practice", but I'm more interested in why Koreans are so able and willing to practice in such a way. Try as they might, foreigners are seemingly unable to recreate it in any way, be it by traveling to Korea or creating a domestic team house. There is more at work here than just practice.


The gaming culture is different. eSports is treated as a legit career in Korea, which people are willing to sacrifice their youth for. Competition is sponsored by major corporations, and broadcast on TV.

Imagine Apple, Microsoft, Boeing, etc. coming in and sponsoring eSports teams in the West, and it being shown regularly on Cable TV, and local heroes who are the talk of the day in high schools and colleges. That's the equivalent of what Korea has.

3 years ago, yes


It's still that way today. The culture is there whether the game is BW, SC 2, LoL, etc. I'm talking about eSports as a whole here, not just SC 2, because Korean success in SC 2 is a product of the larger eSports culture and is not standalone.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4929
Well, regardless of Balance, this tournament probably will be remembered by speedy medivacs killing everyone.
Pokemon Master
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4930
The anti terran biais on Twitter from community figures is disgusting.
Just looking at the names, almost none of the match played would have had differents results in WoL so far.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4931
wow since we cannot talk about balance here, i have to say terran dropship now is very very very very...... good.
Die-hard KeSPA fan
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4932
I think Polt is way too good for Creator to be able to beat him right now.
Addicted2Dreaming
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada116 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4933
curious to see how leenock deals with drop-intensive play.
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iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4934
On March 17 2013 06:40 Ryps wrote:
Ferarrivacs pretty good

I was thinking the same thing.
Once you hit those boost they really go rocket mode lol.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4935
On March 17 2013 06:40 Ldawg wrote:
Well the speedvacs make for an exciting game, but I'm not certain they'll survive as-is in the next patch. After watching the TvZs I wondered what the speedvacs would mean for PvT at the highest level.


Watch Partings PvT, he deals with drops super well.
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4936
On March 17 2013 06:41 Pyre wrote:
Why doesn't he use nexus cannon? I'd at least throw a few cannons down in those air lanes too.

He sniped the MsC with a viking pack.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4937
This sort of reminds me of when you fall behind vs mutas in PvZ in WoL. The way that you just cant stabilize because the pressure is neverending and they use the fact that you are behind to pressure you until you break.
LeanMeanMacroMachine
Profile Joined May 2012
54 Posts
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4938
On March 17 2013 06:41 Noocta wrote:
The anti terran biais on Twitter from community figures is disgusting.
Just looking at the names, almost none of the match played would have had differents results in WoL so far.

Please link a few?
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 21:42:37
March 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#4939
Killer:

[image loading]

Someone paste it in chat. :D
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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
March 16 2013 21:42 GMT
#4940
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