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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 16 2013 21:25 GMT
#4761
On March 17 2013 06:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I think this could be a 3-0. Polt is one of the favorites to win the entire thing.


NO!

creator fighto
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
March 16 2013 21:25 GMT
#4762
Watching a what winning ? Is that even possible ?
throttled
Profile Joined August 2010
United States382 Posts
March 16 2013 21:25 GMT
#4763
Oh look Terran wins every single match Terran has played in.

They're not OP though, daddy told me so.

User was warned for this post
"Look to the river rushing. Unparalleled in its power. It carves away at the land, eroding the banks, consuming the sands and washes away to her majesty."
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 16 2013 21:26 GMT
#4764
On March 17 2013 06:24 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:21 Hylirion wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:18 Zealously wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.


But everyone isn't getting equal amounts of practice, and certainly not equal quality of practice. Same goes for infrastructure and mentality - the Koreans (usually) have it all, and talent, whereas foreigners only have some of those.


Yeah sure, but I mean, in the Netherlands we have a gold medalist at snowboarding. There are no mountains in our country. That is not good practice environment but with enough dedication anything is/should be possible. But not with SC2 it seems


Does this gold medalist practice in the Netherlands?


Yes, we actualy have indoor places for it. So that makes his point rather irrelivent.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
March 16 2013 21:26 GMT
#4765
On March 17 2013 06:22 LeanMeanMacroMachine wrote:
Polt considered a foreigner now? Damn that's stretching it.


He lives in Texas. Dammit, that's step one to becoming a foreigner. That's how we stole Azubu.Violet for awhile.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Teoyaomqui
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden326 Posts
March 16 2013 21:26 GMT
#4766
I think Sen is our best hope. He's up against Parting next, anyone know how good Sen's HotS ZvP is?
Tenshix
Profile Joined January 2013
United States169 Posts
March 16 2013 21:26 GMT
#4767
On March 17 2013 06:22 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:20 Paincakez wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:18 Mensol wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 5ukkub wrote:
http://bashtech.net/twitch/stats.php

Starcraft 131k > LoL 95k !!


Starcraft is dying

LoL 123k > Starcraft 116k

http://www.twitch.tv/ and LoL game just started.

Watching LoL streams is like watching paint dry. I definitely anticipate a huge influx of players constantly coming to SC for esports.


LoL has 32 million active users, they have plenty of people they can grab through marketing and advertising to watch their streams.

100k viewers is like 0.3% of its playerbase. Though this should tell you how dedicated starcraft fans are relative to the playersize


Haha, I was going to say that too. 32 million players yet they can only pull in 100k to watch MLG, while SC2 only has a few million (4 million?) and we are able to get the same amount.
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
March 16 2013 21:26 GMT
#4768
On March 17 2013 06:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:20 Thrax wrote:
So much schadenfreude over Stephano losing. Nothing wrong with "Stephano got out-multitasked badly and Last looked brilliant", but "YAY I'm so happy that Stephano lost" - ugh, that just feels wrong. Some respect please?


Just as how you can root for any player or team in any sport, you can root against one. Disliking/ cheering against a player doesn't mean you're being disrespectful. Anti-fans will necessarily exist just as much as fans will.


It just means you're a pretty sad person.
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 16 2013 21:26 GMT
#4769
Honestly, if Flash would practice only four hours a day living at home in NA, he'd still be better than all foreigners. Talent also plays a role and Korea has always had more competitive players and higher status for professional gamers. (not more players)
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 16 2013 21:26 GMT
#4770
On March 17 2013 06:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I think this could be a 3-0. Polt is one of the favorites to win the entire thing.

Only problem is how volatile TvT is. Polt has shown he has vastly improved his macro, but he's weak vs cheeses.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
March 16 2013 21:26 GMT
#4771
Let's see how Polt's new macro can function in a non-online tournament.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
My_Fake_Plastic_Luv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
March 16 2013 21:27 GMT
#4772
Can someone explain to me why broodlord infestor doesn't work anymore?
Its going to be a glorious day, I feel my luck could change
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
March 16 2013 21:27 GMT
#4773
On March 17 2013 06:21 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:20 Swiipii wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 Insoleet wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:13 m0ck wrote:
The sad thing about speed-medivacs is that while they allow T to harass to their hearts content, they also force their opponent to stay defensive. They make for a turtlier game.


Not really, but the zerg/protoss needs to take air control with muta/phoenix. Else, he'll be dropped like a madman.

Maybe but mutas are lame late game . The Terran is just going to sit, max on 3-3 or 2-2 and crush the Zerg .
Viper/ultras seems to be better and with lings/infestors and static defense you can deal with drops .


Muta midgame, overlord speed, vipers + infestors lategame. Ultralisk so that you can fight the terran head to head. I think it's the way yeah.


From what i've seen on streams like Hyun's, mutas are not really the answer. They can't catch up to medivacs anymore and they seem to deal poorly with 2 bases pushes while their harass potential has been reduced because of the widow mines.

I'm waiting to be proven wrong though, i would love for Mutas to be the cornerstone of zergs again.

"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 16 2013 21:27 GMT
#4774
not to be an asshole but i gotta say i've been wondering about many decisions that MLG makes for a long time. they've been receiving heavy criticism for mass downtime, then they finally announce they'll 'fix it' like 2 years later... and then they don't fix shit. i guess they show the players faces before they actually start playing sometimes, which is kinda cool. that 'highlight reel' thingy was rather embarassing though, not sure that people a-moving hellbats into mineral lines with Axeltoss saying stuff over it is the best possible content you could come up with. i personally don't even mind the downtime that much, i know how to keep myself busy and/or entertained on the computer, but i'm just astonished by the fact that fixing something like this seems to be so difficult for MLG, along with many other decisions they have made, and yet they still manage to invite all the best players in the world (and then add some random americans... well let's not get into that one), have amazing games, solid caster lineups and more or less flawless production. you would think if they can handle all this stuff, they could produce a few decent videos and have someone actually play them between games.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
March 16 2013 21:27 GMT
#4775
On March 17 2013 06:26 Tenshix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:22 iky43210 wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:20 Paincakez wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:18 Mensol wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 5ukkub wrote:
http://bashtech.net/twitch/stats.php

Starcraft 131k > LoL 95k !!


Starcraft is dying

LoL 123k > Starcraft 116k

http://www.twitch.tv/ and LoL game just started.

Watching LoL streams is like watching paint dry. I definitely anticipate a huge influx of players constantly coming to SC for esports.


LoL has 32 million active users, they have plenty of people they can grab through marketing and advertising to watch their streams.

100k viewers is like 0.3% of its playerbase. Though this should tell you how dedicated starcraft fans are relative to the playersize


Haha, I was going to say that too. 32 million players yet they can only pull in 100k to watch MLG, while SC2 only has a few million (4 million?) and we are able to get the same amount.


Active users for sc2 ? Probably less.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 21:27:28
March 16 2013 21:27 GMT
#4776
On March 17 2013 06:23 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:21 Abominous wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:21 sibs wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:18 suicideyear wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.


It's not so much the amount of practice as much as what you're practicing + what you're learning.

For example by all accounts Dan Henderson was a workhorse (Olympic Greco-Roman wrestler, PRIDE Middleweight Champion, probably a hall of famer in any MMA conversation) and that didn't stop him from getting starched and choked out by Anderson Silva, who trained with fucking Steven Segal.


Bad analogy, anderson silva fights with massive advantages in MMA, the dude is has super long limbs and is super tall for his weight class (he is taller than most LHW's, he is taller than the greatest HW of all time).

Who's the greatest HW of all time?


Fedor obviously. But it depends on if you mean in an absolute or relative sense. I think relative is the only one worth mentioning as absolute is pretty much always just who is the best now.



Did I ever tell you that I pretty much like to tell myself Fedor retired after 2009 and the Werdum/Antonio Silva/Henderson fights never happened?
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
March 16 2013 21:27 GMT
#4777
On March 17 2013 06:26 126Q;A1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:20 Thrax wrote:
So much schadenfreude over Stephano losing. Nothing wrong with "Stephano got out-multitasked badly and Last looked brilliant", but "YAY I'm so happy that Stephano lost" - ugh, that just feels wrong. Some respect please?


Just as how you can root for any player or team in any sport, you can root against one. Disliking/ cheering against a player doesn't mean you're being disrespectful. Anti-fans will necessarily exist just as much as fans will.


It just means you're a pretty sad person.

Not at all.
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
March 16 2013 21:27 GMT
#4778
On March 17 2013 06:25 Bermuda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:21 Abominous wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:21 sibs wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:18 suicideyear wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.


It's not so much the amount of practice as much as what you're practicing + what you're learning.

For example by all accounts Dan Henderson was a workhorse (Olympic Greco-Roman wrestler, PRIDE Middleweight Champion, probably a hall of famer in any MMA conversation) and that didn't stop him from getting starched and choked out by Anderson Silva, who trained with fucking Steven Segal.


Bad analogy, anderson silva fights with massive advantages in MMA, the dude is has super long limbs and is super tall for his weight class (he is taller than most LHW's, he is taller than the greatest HW of all time).

Who's the greatest HW of all time?


Fedor "the emperor" emelianenko. Nobody even really compare...

Pfft. Tank Abbot. Running forward mauling is the best technique.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
March 16 2013 21:27 GMT
#4779
On March 17 2013 06:12 Fionn wrote:
I'm 11-3 so far in predictions. Missed on herO, Rain and jjakji.

I'm 13-1 ....herO whyyyyyy :'(
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 16 2013 21:27 GMT
#4780
On March 17 2013 06:25 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I think this could be a 3-0. Polt is one of the favorites to win the entire thing.


NO!

creator fighto


NO YOU!

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