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United States15275 Posts
On March 17 2013 06:21 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 06:18 CosmicSpiral wrote:On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling. They practice smarter and longer. That's about it. Ehh, I'm not so sure it's so simple. There is most certainly a cultural element at work in Korean dominance; 'tis not only how they practice but why they practice.
What I said is a general description that does not take into account the infrastructure, community, schedules, personnel, or personal motivation of Korean teams. But all of it serves to create better dedicated practice, which is the key difference between Korean and foreign players. The very best players usually create their own specific schedules and habits which distinguishes them from their peers.
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What. the. fuck. That screaming sounded pretty creepy.
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4 protoss, 4 zerg and 10 terrans left right now.
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Thx for the gif. 1 Imaginary TL Gold for you mate!
Now Polt, its your time to show bomber how to play bio!
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COME ON CREATOR! I BELIEVE!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 17 2013 06:21 Hylirion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 06:18 Zealously wrote:On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling. But everyone isn't getting equal amounts of practice, and certainly not equal quality of practice. Same goes for infrastructure and mentality - the Koreans ( usually) have it all, and talent, whereas foreigners only have some of those. Yeah sure, but I mean, in the Netherlands we have a gold medalist at snowboarding. There are no mountains in our country. That is not good practice environment but with enough dedication anything is/should be possible. But not with SC2 it seems
Does this gold medalist practice in the Netherlands?
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On March 17 2013 06:22 Abominous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 06:21 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On March 17 2013 06:20 Thrax wrote:
So much schadenfreude over Stephano losing. Nothing wrong with "Stephano got out-multitasked badly and Last looked brilliant", but "YAY I'm so happy that Stephano lost" - ugh, that just feels wrong. Some respect please?
Regardless, at this point I'm expecting an all korean top 8. I'll be respectful about Stephano loses when Stephano fanboys are respectful about them.... Which makes you as childish as you think they are. Nice logic.
Did I say I actually cared if I sounded childish? Naw man I couldn't actually care less if I sound childish online/to Stephano fanboys -.-
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On March 17 2013 06:23 _SpiRaL_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 06:21 Abominous wrote:On March 17 2013 06:21 sibs wrote:On March 17 2013 06:18 suicideyear wrote:On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling. It's not so much the amount of practice as much as what you're practicing + what you're learning. For example by all accounts Dan Henderson was a workhorse (Olympic Greco-Roman wrestler, PRIDE Middleweight Champion, probably a hall of famer in any MMA conversation) and that didn't stop him from getting starched and choked out by Anderson Silva, who trained with fucking Steven Segal. Bad analogy, anderson silva fights with massive advantages in MMA, the dude is has super long limbs and is super tall for his weight class (he is taller than most LHW's, he is taller than the greatest HW of all time). Who's the greatest HW of all time? Fedor obviously. But it depends on if you mean in an absolute or relative sense. I think relative is the only one worth mentioning as absolute is pretty much always just who is the best now.
I agree.
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On March 17 2013 06:21 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 06:20 Thrax wrote:
So much schadenfreude over Stephano losing. Nothing wrong with "Stephano got out-multitasked badly and Last looked brilliant", but "YAY I'm so happy that Stephano lost" - ugh, that just feels wrong. Some respect please?
Regardless, at this point I'm expecting an all korean top 8. I'll be respectful about Stephano loses when Stephano fanboys are respectful about them....
"These guys are jerks, so I'll be be a jerk back"
Well, I can see the reasoning obviously, but it sure leads to a really hostile community.
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gogo Polt!
even though I'd like to see Life against Creator
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On March 17 2013 06:23 Everlong wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 06:15 suicideyear wrote:On March 17 2013 06:12 InstaKill123 wrote:
HAHAHAHA
I love this GAME now. VASTLY superior players just SLAUGHTERING these terrible foreigners. This is how it should be. I was so sick of garbage like Goswwser winning against players like MVP. It was a fucking joke.
Everyone knew the last year of WoL was a terrible joke.
This tournament is a godsend. Watching these insanely skilled koreans just slaughter through the terrible patchzergs.
GG HotS has succeeded in every way possible.
Nothing is OP, it just looks that way since ironically, the game is actually balanced hahahah. Korean zergs, protosses, and terrans all winning.
Yawn.
User was banned for this post. #fungaled This is absolutely fucking true, sorry. Now ban me please so that I can enjoy this beautiful ro16 full of players that actually deserves to be there.
I agree with his train of thought, I just thought it was funny he typed all of that to get banned.
I stand by my #fungaled, though I may perhaps downgrade it to a plain old #broodlinged.
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On March 17 2013 06:24 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 06:22 Abominous wrote:On March 17 2013 06:21 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On March 17 2013 06:20 Thrax wrote:
So much schadenfreude over Stephano losing. Nothing wrong with "Stephano got out-multitasked badly and Last looked brilliant", but "YAY I'm so happy that Stephano lost" - ugh, that just feels wrong. Some respect please?
Regardless, at this point I'm expecting an all korean top 8. I'll be respectful about Stephano loses when Stephano fanboys are respectful about them.... Which makes you as childish as you think they are. Nice logic. Did I say I actually cared if I sounded childish? Naw man I couldn't actually care less if I sound childish online/to Stephano fanboys -.-
But you sound childish to everyone...
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On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.
The Korean SC scene has a long history of being a legit sport with real teams that have coaches/managers. It also helps that the entire scene is situated in and around a single city. That kind of development just doesn't exist outside Korea.
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On March 17 2013 06:19 dcsoda wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling. They don't practice equally though. Also Koreans don't have to stream as much as foreigners do because of the infrastructure already in place with the team houses in Korea. So it has a lot to do with the infrastructure allowing them to practice like crazy without worrying about exposure and the willingness to do so.
The infrastructure didnt build itself though. Most ESF Koreans sacrificed salary for a practice house. The problem with the foreign scene is that all the major tournaments are spread out. They need something like the GSL to center their houses around.
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On March 17 2013 06:23 Falcon_NL wrote:
4 protoss, 4 zerg and 10 terrans left right now.
Korean vs foreigner has nothing to do with this right?
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On March 17 2013 06:20 Thrax wrote:
So much schadenfreude over Stephano losing. Nothing wrong with "Stephano got out-multitasked badly and Last looked brilliant", but "YAY I'm so happy that Stephano lost" - ugh, that just feels wrong. Some respect please?
Just as how you can root for any player or team in any sport, you can root against one. Disliking/ cheering against a player doesn't mean you're being disrespectful. Anti-fans will necessarily exist just as much as fans will.
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I think this could be a 3-0. Polt is one of the favorites to win the entire thing.
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On March 17 2013 06:21 Abominous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 06:21 sibs wrote:On March 17 2013 06:18 suicideyear wrote:On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling. It's not so much the amount of practice as much as what you're practicing + what you're learning. For example by all accounts Dan Henderson was a workhorse (Olympic Greco-Roman wrestler, PRIDE Middleweight Champion, probably a hall of famer in any MMA conversation) and that didn't stop him from getting starched and choked out by Anderson Silva, who trained with fucking Steven Segal. Bad analogy, anderson silva fights with massive advantages in MMA, the dude is has super long limbs and is super tall for his weight class (he is taller than most LHW's, he is taller than the greatest HW of all time). Who's the greatest HW of all time?
Fedor "the emperor" emelianenko. Nobody even really compare...
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On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.
Popularity+structure=success. Korea has a 10+ year experience of both at this game. The rest of the world has had neither.
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i love MVP but honestly i was not very impressed with his results today. both bomber and late looked more dominating, and i would not be surprised if MC can take him down. i mean its a close call, and its really annoying with all the MVP fanboys who chant that MC has no chance. MC looked in much better shape against herO (who is a very very good PvP player) than MVP did against that foreign protoss whom he almost lost 2 maps to... im excited for their series nevertheless.
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