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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4701
On March 17 2013 06:18 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.


But everyone isn't getting equal amounts of practice, and certainly not equal quality of practice. Same goes for infrastructure and mentality - the Koreans (usually) have it all, and talent, whereas foreigners only have some of those.


Yeah sure, but I mean, in the Netherlands we have a gold medalist at snowboarding. There are no mountains in our country. That is not good practice environment but with enough dedication anything is/should be possible. But not with SC2 it seems
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4702
On March 17 2013 06:14 Teoyaomqui wrote:
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On March 17 2013 06:10 AgentW wrote:
Fun fact: the only Terran to lose thus far is MKP who lost to another Terran, jjakji.

Fun fact, all terrans that have played so far are koreans. All koreans that have played so far have won except those losing to another korean.

Fun fact, Goswser is actually Gosu User combined!
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4703
On March 17 2013 06:20 Thrax wrote:
So much schadenfreude over Stephano losing. Nothing wrong with "Stephano got out-multitasked badly and Last looked brilliant", but "YAY I'm so happy that Stephano lost" - ugh, that just feels wrong. Some respect please?

Regardless, at this point I'm expecting an all korean top 8.

I'll be respectful about Stephano loses when Stephano fanboys are respectful about them....
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Vorkreist
Profile Joined February 2013
21 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4704
I have a feeling a protoss will win it all even though terran is dominating.
*cough parting cough*
"One phoenix is like the sound of one hand clapping, it's not very much." - Artosis
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4705
man I'd love to try to cast some of these games at MLG.. would be fun.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4706
On March 17 2013 06:18 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.


They practice smarter and longer. That's about it.

Ehh, I'm not so sure it's so simple. There is most certainly a cultural element at work in Korean dominance; 'tis not only how they practice but why they practice.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4707
On March 17 2013 06:21 sibs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:18 suicideyear wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.


It's not so much the amount of practice as much as what you're practicing + what you're learning.

For example by all accounts Dan Henderson was a workhorse (Olympic Greco-Roman wrestler, PRIDE Middleweight Champion, probably a hall of famer in any MMA conversation) and that didn't stop him from getting starched and choked out by Anderson Silva, who trained with fucking Steven Segal.


Bad analogy, anderson silva fights with massive advantages in MMA, the dude is has super long limbs and is super tall for his weight class (he is taller than most LHW's, he is taller than the greatest HW of all time).

Who's the greatest HW of all time?
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4708
On March 17 2013 06:18 Mensol wrote:
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On March 17 2013 06:17 5ukkub wrote:
http://bashtech.net/twitch/stats.php

Starcraft 131k > LoL 95k !!


Starcraft is dying

LoL 123k > Starcraft 116k

http://www.twitch.tv/ and LoL game just started.


I need a 3rd monitor ;;
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4709
On March 17 2013 06:20 Swiipii wrote:
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On March 17 2013 06:17 Insoleet wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:13 m0ck wrote:
The sad thing about speed-medivacs is that while they allow T to harass to their hearts content, they also force their opponent to stay defensive. They make for a turtlier game.


Not really, but the zerg/protoss needs to take air control with muta/phoenix. Else, he'll be dropped like a madman.

Maybe but mutas are lame late game . The Terran is just going to sit, max on 3-3 or 2-2 and crush the Zerg .
Viper/ultras seems to be better and with lings/infestors and static defense you can deal with drops .


Muta midgame, overlord speed, vipers + infestors lategame. Ultralisk so that you can fight the terran head to head. I think it's the way yeah.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
March 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#4710
I would love to see another Choi Terran Ro4 match between Bomber and Polt as a rematch of IPL5.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#4711
Let's see if US dorm life > Korean team house
AdministratorBreak the chains
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
March 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#4712
On March 17 2013 06:15 Larkin wrote:
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On March 17 2013 06:13 Vorkreist wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:10 Tobblish wrote:
Someone call the police, I see blood and hear rumors or rape at the Dallas convention center!

How is it allowed to post stuff like this here?


Impossible to mod with the volume of posts here.

But yeah, making jokes about rape is one of the most irritating and infantile things that can be done. I'd fucking ban everyone who does it. (inb4Igetwarnedforthispost)

TL ten commandments #3
Don't be a drama queen martyr. TeamLiquid isn't colonial America or Tienanmen Square. You do not need to preemptively declare "I'm going to be banned for this..." or "ban me, I don't care." Our Moderators ban for good reasons. If they read someone acting like a martyr, they'll simply treat it as a request to be banned.


A tournament like this really shows how unforgiving single elimination is, especially towards foreigners. Poor Stephano! Hope Ret doesn't go down the same path..
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#4713
On March 17 2013 06:20 Coffin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:18 Tobblish wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote:
Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling.


Well there you have it.
But the RIGHT practice is more important, dedication and actually honor is vital parts as well.


I would really like you to elaborate on the honor part, because I can't wrap my head around that one.


I can't remember what interview or documentary it was but the koreans spoke about their honor and respect for their country and family to succeed.
Thus pushing them to win.
The curse is real
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
March 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#4714
On March 17 2013 06:20 Thrax wrote:
So much schadenfreude over Stephano losing. Nothing wrong with "Stephano got out-multitasked badly and Last looked brilliant", but "YAY I'm so happy that Stephano lost" - ugh, that just feels wrong. Some respect please?

Regardless, at this point I'm expecting an all korean top 8.

Apparently people love rooting against the already downtrodden foreigners. Kinda weird no?
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
March 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#4715
On March 17 2013 06:21 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:20 Thrax wrote:
So much schadenfreude over Stephano losing. Nothing wrong with "Stephano got out-multitasked badly and Last looked brilliant", but "YAY I'm so happy that Stephano lost" - ugh, that just feels wrong. Some respect please?

Regardless, at this point I'm expecting an all korean top 8.

I'll be respectful about Stephano loses when Stephano fanboys are respectful about them....

Which makes you as childish as you think they are.

Nice logic.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
March 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#4716
On March 17 2013 06:20 Paincakez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:18 Mensol wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:17 5ukkub wrote:
http://bashtech.net/twitch/stats.php

Starcraft 131k > LoL 95k !!


Starcraft is dying

LoL 123k > Starcraft 116k

http://www.twitch.tv/ and LoL game just started.

Watching LoL streams is like watching paint dry. I definitely anticipate a huge influx of players constantly coming to SC for esports.

I can never understand whats so interesting about Moba games...LoL is fun to play.but to watch..oh my god..its awful.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#4717
lol, axeltoss trying to make polt a foreigner. i appreciate that effort man, but it just doesn't work that way.
Teoyaomqui
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden326 Posts
March 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#4718
On March 17 2013 06:19 WerderBremen wrote:
MLG so good, could be every weekend

I agree wholeheartedly. Some excellent entertainment tonight. Keep up the good work MLG!
dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
March 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#4719
On March 17 2013 06:21 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:20 Thrax wrote:
So much schadenfreude over Stephano losing. Nothing wrong with "Stephano got out-multitasked badly and Last looked brilliant", but "YAY I'm so happy that Stephano lost" - ugh, that just feels wrong. Some respect please?

Regardless, at this point I'm expecting an all korean top 8.

I'll be respectful about Stephano loses when Stephano fanboys are respectful about them....


Well that attitude will make it better.
LeanMeanMacroMachine
Profile Joined May 2012
54 Posts
March 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#4720
Polt considered a foreigner now? Damn that's stretching it.
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