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feanor1
United States1899 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4681
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4682
On March 17 2013 06:16 Lysanias wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2013 06:13 Tobblish wrote: On March 17 2013 06:11 Dodgin wrote: On March 17 2013 06:10 Tobblish wrote: On March 17 2013 06:10 gingerfluffmuff wrote: ALL - FOREIGNER - KILL! Team Korea 1 - Rest of the world 0. Still one foreigner left brah! There's 3, but they advanced by beating other foreigners. Do we count Sen as a foreigner? YES, let's be fair we need all we can get. Nah it's always been Asian vs White..it's just not PC to point it out.. | ||
Paincakez
81 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4683
On March 17 2013 06:18 Mensol wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2013 06:17 5ukkub wrote: http://bashtech.net/twitch/stats.php Starcraft 131k > LoL 95k !! Starcraft is dying LoL 123k > Starcraft 116k http://www.twitch.tv/ and LoL game just started. Watching LoL streams is like watching paint dry. I definitely anticipate a huge influx of players constantly coming to SC for esports. | ||
felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4684
On March 17 2013 06:18 Dodgin wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2013 06:16 felisconcolori wrote: On March 17 2013 06:10 Tobblish wrote: On March 17 2013 06:10 gingerfluffmuff wrote: ALL - FOREIGNER - KILL! Team Korea 1 - Rest of the world 0. Still one foreigner left brah! No... there is... another. Wait. No, there are going to be 3 foreigners in Ro16. Not sure how many will be in Ro8. 0 Oh, c'mon. Give Sen half a chance. (Sorry Ret, whoever wins Thorzain/Killer.) On second thought, and after consulting the bracket, Sen is going against Parting. Dammit. | ||
sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4685
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4686
On March 17 2013 06:10 SiguR wrote: It was so apparent how strong medivacs were coming into this event and after one day of play it is even more apparent. I don't understand how the overall consensus seems to be that it doesn't need to be tweaked. Medivacs are way too strong currently. Drop play is one of the main strengths of the Terrans, and this strength has had a massive boost by the new change to medivacs. I cannot see it lasting through the next patch. The game is brand new so imbalances are expected and these will be ironed out with nerfs and buffs plus other changes. It was apparent that the Warhound was too strong and this was removed as a reaction, so Blizzard will realise that changes need to be made. These early HoTS tournaments are providing the data that they need to make alterations to the game. You need to play games at the top level to find the imbalances. Not really a way around it, play-testing only shows you so much. | ||
Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4687
Regardless, at this point I'm expecting an all korean top 8. | ||
Footler
United States560 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4688
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4689
On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote: Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling. I would bet that the whole STX team helped Last/Bogus to study their opponents and prepare builds that would counter them (maybe not much was needed against Huk but still) while Stephano probably just laddered. | ||
Swiipii
2195 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4690
On March 17 2013 06:17 Insoleet wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2013 06:13 m0ck wrote: The sad thing about speed-medivacs is that while they allow T to harass to their hearts content, they also force their opponent to stay defensive. They make for a turtlier game. Not really, but the zerg/protoss needs to take air control with muta/phoenix. Else, he'll be dropped like a madman. Maybe but mutas are lame late game . The Terran is just going to sit, max on 3-3 or 2-2 and crush the Zerg . Viper/ultras seems to be better and with lings/infestors and static defense you can deal with drops . | ||
Nocci
Germany108 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4691
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4692
On March 17 2013 06:14 Bagration wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2013 06:12 LighT. wrote: ONe of thorzain/killer is probably the foreign hope :/ Sen and Ret are pretty much eliminated before the game even starts. Foreign hope? There is no foreign hope at this tournament. If any foreigner gets to ro8 I consider that as a huge feat. | ||
Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4693
On March 17 2013 06:18 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote: Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling. But everyone isn't getting equal amounts of practice, and certainly not equal quality of practice. Same goes for infrastructure and mentality - the Koreans (usually) have it all, and talent, whereas foreigners only have some of those. I don't get why this is being said now. People saw this coming. NA / EU players have been doing bad from pretty much the start of SC 2, minus a very few players here and there. This is just the continuation of that as NA / EU has completely failed to develop the infrastructure to train and incentivize better players. This gets discussed after every tournament but nothing is ever done so... Why the /gasp now? Pro SC 2 in NA / EU is going into a slow decline. Players are going to continue competing and I even envision Stephano making a comeback eventually. But they're never going to get better than they are now. | ||
Coffin
Germany229 Posts
March 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#4694
On March 17 2013 06:18 Tobblish wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote: Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling. Well there you have it. But the RIGHT practice is more important, dedication and actually honor is vital parts as well. I would really like you to elaborate on the honor part, because I can't wrap my head around that one. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4695
On March 17 2013 06:19 TeeTS wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2013 06:18 CosmicSpiral wrote: On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote: Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling. They practice smarter and longer. That's about it. I would rather say, they are professional organised. That is why they practice smarter and longer. I didn't say the players were doing it by themselves. ![]() | ||
dcsoda
United States583 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4696
On March 17 2013 06:19 blackone wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2013 06:15 126Q;A1 wrote: Just staggering the amount of Korean nationalists in here :o You're calling the ones who root for Koreans nationalists? I'm pretty sure a nationalist would root for players of his own nationality. I personally just root for the best players, and those just happen to be almost exclusively Koreans. You're pretty sure? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nationalist?s=t the internet is useful. | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32742 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4697
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sibs
635 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4698
On March 17 2013 06:18 suicideyear wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote: Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling. It's not so much the amount of practice as much as what you're practicing + what you're learning. For example by all accounts Dan Henderson was a workhorse (Olympic Greco-Roman wrestler, PRIDE Middleweight Champion, probably a hall of famer in any MMA conversation) and that didn't stop him from getting starched and choked out by Anderson Silva, who trained with fucking Steven Segal. Bad analogy, anderson silva fights with massive advantages in MMA, the dude is has super long limbs and is super tall for his weight class (he is taller than most LHW's, he is taller than the greatest HW of all time). | ||
revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4699
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#4700
On March 17 2013 06:18 JJH777 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2013 06:17 Hylirion wrote: Why exactly are koreans so much better than the others? With equal practice everyone should be able to get the same skilllevel. Kind of mindboggling. I bolded the key words for you. Foreigners don't practice as much as Koreans. Even the ones that practice a lot only do so for 8 hours a day or so. Koreans practice 12 hours a day. but there's no point in practicing more, because the quality of players on the NA ladder is lower, so it's not as good and rewarding practice | ||
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