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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 06 2013 14:49 GMT
#1021
On March 06 2013 23:46 Shakattak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 06:47 StarVe wrote:
On March 06 2013 06:24 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Nice thread, i guess you were so busy with it that you had no time to eat.

wat

I don't know who will advance, Sting most likely and viOlet, too, but foreigners are too close to call.

VortiX probably has the best foreign ZvZ at the moment (at least in WoL) and he already excels at mutalisk play in ZvZ, so HotS might be good for him, too. On the other hand his ZvP was always relatively weak compared to his other matchups and he hasn't practiced HotS much at all, just like Snute and maybe MaNa.

Socke can be great but is the most inconsistent player in the group, since MaNa is consistently bad at ZvP while Socke had his very good moments.

My money is still on VortiX, actually it isn't on anyone since the group is very hard to predict, but if I had to bet, I'd probably pick VortiX.


Socke inconsistent ? He is probably the most consistent .

No, not really.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 06 2013 14:49 GMT
#1022
Sting being afraid of everyone. :D
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45535 Posts
March 06 2013 14:49 GMT
#1023
On March 06 2013 23:45 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 23:43 Lysanias wrote:
On March 06 2013 23:42 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 23:41 azzih wrote:
Lets see how Stephano and TLO will do tomorrow. I think they are the strongest foreigner zergs right now.

But i cant imagine will go well. Zerg right now has so many weaknesses and time windows you can take massive advantage of. And the new terran mech is brutal, even me as a maybe plat to diamond skilled terra can use this composition very easy and with good success. At least its much more easy to use then a bio force.


Not expecting too much from Stephano on HotS, but I have no idea how much he's been playing it.



How about TLO ?

well like ret, he's been playing a lot of HotS, so he should go okay...but then again it's a tough group



I agree... it'll definitely come down to whether or not TLO's lengthy experience with HotS (compared to his opponents) will be enough to make up for the fact that he'd normally get crushed in that kind of group (Koreans and stronger foreigners).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5459 Posts
March 06 2013 14:50 GMT
#1024
On March 06 2013 23:46 StarVe wrote:
GoOdy vs MMA on TaKeTV. ^_^

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TaKeTV


What is this for?
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 06 2013 14:50 GMT
#1025
Sting is scared of all the toss
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
looken
Profile Joined September 2011
727 Posts
March 06 2013 14:50 GMT
#1026
On March 06 2013 23:43 Scrubwave wrote:
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On March 06 2013 23:33 looken wrote:
funny how QXC does everything to justify these games without admitting that terran is just really really strong against zerg.

Funny how months of zergs dominating terrans, reflected in statistics, weren't proof of anything, but this one day is proof that terran is just really strong against zerg.
Bravo.

yay another hypocrit
"Jingle Bells, Tasteless smells" Artosis 17.12.15
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 15:00:07
March 06 2013 14:51 GMT
#1027
Edit: My bad. Fixed.

2 = series win
1 = series loss with 1 map win
0 = series loss with 0 map win

Table Name Series (Map) Place

\ - 1 2 1 2 Sting 2-2 (6-4) 4
- \ - 2 0 2 Socke 2-1 (4-2) 3
2 - \ 2 - 2 MaNa 3-0 (6-2) 2
0 0 1 \ 1 - Snute 0-4 (2-8) 5
2 2 - 2 \ 2 viOLet 4-0 (8-3) 1
0 0 0 - 1 \ VortiX 0-4 (1-8) 6

S S M S v V
t o a n i o
i c N u O r
n k a t L t
g e e e i
t X
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 06 2013 14:51 GMT
#1028
On March 06 2013 23:50 SoleSteeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 23:46 StarVe wrote:
GoOdy vs MMA on TaKeTV. ^_^

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TaKeTV


What is this for?


Just an exhibition torunament and games at the Acer booth. TakeTV and Acer are partnered. Scarlett is also there.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 06 2013 14:53 GMT
#1029
@AcerMMA

?????????????
Terran & Potato Salad.
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
March 06 2013 14:53 GMT
#1030
On March 06 2013 23:49 Kasaraki wrote:
Sting being afraid of everyone. :D

He was just trying to be nice.
In reality he is only scared of Ret, Stephano, Grubby and Koreans.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
March 06 2013 14:53 GMT
#1031
--- Nuked ---
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 06 2013 14:53 GMT
#1032
Looks like...

+ Show Spoiler +
Right advantage

[image loading]
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
March 06 2013 14:54 GMT
#1033
On March 06 2013 23:48 Dwayn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 23:47 Maesy wrote:
On March 06 2013 23:47 Bagi wrote:
Sting showing that he doesn't need any HOTS stuff to beat these zergs.


It's more of a mindgame thing probably at this point. All of the zerg expect terran to use their new powerhouse stuff.

well, that's would be one hell of a stupid mindgame.

Well if I read what he means correctly, he's more saying that things such as the new reaper and WM do have effect on how your opponent plays, since while he might not scout it, he has to make sure he isn't going to get caught with his pants down if the opponent is doing it.

But tbh vortix just seemed to underperform pretty hard, this is especially with the rines where you need a couple of blings since else you will just have your opponent walk into your base like sting did. spines and queens have never defended heavy rine attacks like that on their own.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 14:54:36
March 06 2013 14:54 GMT
#1034
On March 06 2013 23:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 23:45 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 23:43 Lysanias wrote:
On March 06 2013 23:42 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 23:41 azzih wrote:
Lets see how Stephano and TLO will do tomorrow. I think they are the strongest foreigner zergs right now.

But i cant imagine will go well. Zerg right now has so many weaknesses and time windows you can take massive advantage of. And the new terran mech is brutal, even me as a maybe plat to diamond skilled terra can use this composition very easy and with good success. At least its much more easy to use then a bio force.


Not expecting too much from Stephano on HotS, but I have no idea how much he's been playing it.



How about TLO ?

well like ret, he's been playing a lot of HotS, so he should go okay...but then again it's a tough group



I agree... it'll definitely come down to whether or not TLO's lengthy experience with HotS (compared to his opponents) will be enough to make up for the fact that he'd normally get crushed in that kind of group (Koreans and stronger foreigners).

I expect Dream to dominate this group, we should see the true power of terran from him No idea which Mvp will show up though, but I can't wait to find out
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
March 06 2013 14:54 GMT
#1035
Stephano has streamed quite a bit of HotS. I think new possibilities for midgame are just going to make him stronger.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
looken
Profile Joined September 2011
727 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 14:55:13
March 06 2013 14:54 GMT
#1036
On March 06 2013 23:53 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 23:50 looken wrote:
On March 06 2013 23:43 Scrubwave wrote:
On March 06 2013 23:33 looken wrote:
funny how QXC does everything to justify these games without admitting that terran is just really really strong against zerg.

Funny how months of zergs dominating terrans, reflected in statistics, weren't proof of anything, but this one day is proof that terran is just really strong against zerg.
Bravo.

yay another hypocrit

I don't think you know what the word you tried to use means.

i dont really know how to write it in english, but i'm pretty sure about the meaning
"Jingle Bells, Tasteless smells" Artosis 17.12.15
Savant.GL
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany502 Posts
March 06 2013 14:54 GMT
#1037
Early terran pressure is very strong and much more varied however there is no way to say it is imbalanced at this point, the game is too new and not enough games have been played.

The way vortix defended was just incorrect, the heavy queen playstyle should filter out in favour of roach defence.
Savant
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 14:56:54
March 06 2013 14:56 GMT
#1038
On March 06 2013 23:51 Orek wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Ranking] +


2 = series win
1 = series loss with 1 map win
0 = series loss with 0 map win

Table Name Series (Map) Place

\ - 1 2 1 2 Sting 1-2 (6-4) 4
- \ - 2 0 2 Socke 2-1 (4-2) 3
2 - \ 2 - 2 MaNa 3-0 (6-2) 2
0 0 1 \ 1 - Snute 0-4 (2-8) 5
2 2 - 2 \ 2 viOLet 4-0 (8-3) 1
0 0 0 - 1 \ VortiX 0-3 (1-8) 6

S S M S v V
t o a n i o
i c N u O r
n k a t L t
g e e e i
t X

Sting is 2-2 now not 1-2, VortiX is now 0-4

Also I wonder why you differentiate between losing 0-2 and 1-2, but not between winning 2-0 and 2-1.

Ah I guess cause it's about map wins and winning always means 2 there? Fair enough in that case ^^
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 06 2013 14:56 GMT
#1039
It's hilarious that this HoTS LR is graveyard for terrans balance whining about the state of TvZ in WoL ^^
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Solarist
Profile Joined September 2011
291 Posts
March 06 2013 14:57 GMT
#1040
On March 06 2013 23:54 Savant.GL wrote:
Early terran pressure is very strong and much more varied however there is no way to say it is imbalanced at this point, the game is too new and not enough games have been played.

The way vortix defended was just incorrect, the heavy queen playstyle should filter out in favour of roach defence.


But how? Dont you know that building a roach warren before 3 bases and 60 drones means you're all in?!?!?
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