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On February 22 2013 21:37 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:The 3 zergs first, really? I bet you just enjoy the shitstorms i rather dislike taeja and symbol to be honest. curious i don't have much opinion on, so roro's really the only player left i like lol I never got your Liquid hate. Shame on you, ottertown.
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On February 22 2013 21:38 Big-t wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:37 Cokefreak wrote:On February 22 2013 21:36 Big-t wrote:On February 22 2013 21:35 Cokefreak wrote:On February 22 2013 21:34 Heavenlee wrote:On February 22 2013 21:33 Cokefreak wrote:On February 22 2013 21:32 Big-t wrote:On February 22 2013 21:31 Cokefreak wrote: Outplayed. Stop it NOW!!!! MC got demolished, no denying that~ Yeah, going 2-3 and having horrible maps is sure being demolished. I'm talking about that last game. Not even the last game Completely. Were we watching different streams? Apparently, MC got scouted and wrecked in the last game.
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On February 22 2013 21:38 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:36 Elroi wrote:On February 22 2013 21:32 RiZu wrote: Roro only Kespa hope. yeah really sad to see both soulkey and bogus go out 2-3. it would have been such an upset if roro didn't win this. Too much credit to KeSPA players, they really haven't shown anything truly remarkable. I still don't get how the TL preview calls bogus "the undisputed (or consensus? was the word?) best terran in the world. He really just has beastly macro and decent micro, but hasn't shown anything too awesome.
TL writers love KeSPA. They were picking Jaedong pretty much every game despite him losing constantly. Took them a while to wake up to that.
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On February 22 2013 21:37 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:The 3 zergs first, really? I bet you just enjoy the shitstorms i rather dislike taeja and symbol to be honest. curious i don't have much opinion on, so roro's really the only player left i like lol
:O Is it because Taeja all killed Prime once?
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On February 22 2013 21:35 Vesky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:35 Inzan1ty wrote: No freaking way TaeJa beats RorO`s best matchup, being over 70%
This is so ZvZ finals. with Curious probably taking it Kinda like there was no way taeja would beat soulkey?I'm hoping for some TvZ finals...
As I said earlier, there is no way to compare Soulkeys ZvT with RorO
Symbol and RorO are probably the strongest ZvTers in the game right now (besides Life)
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On February 22 2013 21:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:37 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 21:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:The 3 zergs first, really? I bet you just enjoy the shitstorms i rather dislike taeja and symbol to be honest. curious i don't have much opinion on, so roro's really the only player left i like lol :O Is it because Taeja all killed Prime once?  sounds about right
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On February 22 2013 21:39 Proseat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:37 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 21:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:The 3 zergs first, really? I bet you just enjoy the shitstorms i rather dislike taeja and symbol to be honest. curious i don't have much opinion on, so roro's really the only player left i like lol I never got your Liquid hate. Shame on you, ottertown. i like hero, tlo and snute, dislike taeja. rest pretty i have little opinion on
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On February 22 2013 21:38 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:34 BoxingKangaroo wrote:On February 22 2013 21:32 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 22 2013 21:32 Asha` wrote:On February 22 2013 21:31 peidongyang wrote:man some of these maps make for such great PL matches but such bad gsl games  Neo Planet S is just pretty awful in general Same with Icarus...I'm not sure why they even have that map. Everyone jumped on the 'zomg KeSPA maps amazing' bandwagon, without giving it a second thought, and now they're in GSL. Always amazed by peoples reactions to new maps. I think the maps are fine for team leagues because racial balance isn't as important there
That's fine, but from what I remember, people were saying 'amazing' without qualification. Which is probably why we have them in GSL now.
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On February 22 2013 21:37 iLoveKT wrote: Man we were 1 baneling away from an all Z semis. That wouldve been a nice send off for WoL since zergs wont do any winning the way HotS currently is.
Well a nice send off for WoL is to at least have a terran around. I mean it is the terran expansion and GomTvT so keeping a terran for at least this long seems to be a requirement.
There hasn't been a Code S GSL semis without a terran yet from all I can remember. Correct me otherwise.
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On February 22 2013 21:38 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On February 22 2013 21:35 Inzan1ty wrote: No freaking way TaeJa beats RorO`s best matchup, being over 70%
This is so ZvZ finals. with Curious probably taking it Taeja is at 68% though, with a higher sampling :O sides if MKP can do it so can Taeja. Also Roro has that winrate mostly vs Kespa terrans I think? Not hating on kespa terrans or anything but they're not Taeja. Roro is a beast everywhere. I think ZvP is actually his weak m-u. And I also think he's the best in ZvZ in RO4.
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On February 22 2013 21:38 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:36 Cokefreak wrote:On February 22 2013 21:35 mordk wrote:On February 22 2013 21:33 Cokefreak wrote:On February 22 2013 21:32 Big-t wrote:On February 22 2013 21:31 Cokefreak wrote: Outplayed. Stop it NOW!!!! MC got demolished, no denying that~ I hope you mean in the games he lost and not the series in general, otherwise you're just trolling. Roro didn't show anything special. Talking about that last game. roro sent an overseer inside mc's base , and then he won. Amazing game, mind-boggling wits and skills were seen that day.
Amazing to think MC had 5 phoenixes, with which he planned to deny scouting.
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On February 22 2013 21:39 Orek wrote: I always wonder why Protoss doesn't try to hide their gateways at corners of the map if they try all-in like that. It's like hiding your spire with overlord creep. If are so all-in, you don't need to fear losing them 10min later, and overseer scout won't find out your all-in inside your base.
If you're refering about the last game, I'm 100% sure Roro wouldn't have changed anything even without sawing 3 gates. When you see someone on 2 bases with phenixes, making immortals and sentries, you know he's gonna all-in.
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On February 22 2013 21:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:37 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 21:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:The 3 zergs first, really? I bet you just enjoy the shitstorms i rather dislike taeja and symbol to be honest. curious i don't have much opinion on, so roro's really the only player left i like lol :O Is it because Taeja all killed Prime once?  there are several players who have all killed prime, i don't dislike them all. i just think taeja was overrated for winning several low-tier premiers (if you sorta get me) and carrying liquid too much, but ofc it's just my opinion
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On February 22 2013 21:39 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:38 Big-t wrote:On February 22 2013 21:37 Cokefreak wrote:On February 22 2013 21:36 Big-t wrote:On February 22 2013 21:35 Cokefreak wrote:On February 22 2013 21:34 Heavenlee wrote:On February 22 2013 21:33 Cokefreak wrote:On February 22 2013 21:32 Big-t wrote:On February 22 2013 21:31 Cokefreak wrote: Outplayed. Stop it NOW!!!! MC got demolished, no denying that~ Yeah, going 2-3 and having horrible maps is sure being demolished. I'm talking about that last game. Not even the last game Completely. Were we watching different streams? Apparently, MC got scouted and wrecked in the last game.
Simply stop to give roro credit for those games!
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On February 22 2013 21:40 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:39 Proseat wrote:On February 22 2013 21:37 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 21:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:The 3 zergs first, really? I bet you just enjoy the shitstorms i rather dislike taeja and symbol to be honest. curious i don't have much opinion on, so roro's really the only player left i like lol I never got your Liquid hate. Shame on you, ottertown. i like hero, tlo and snute, dislike taeja. rest pretty i have little opinion on It's funny but I have the same opinion. Not really hate on Taeja, but that's not the guy I like to cheer for.
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On February 22 2013 21:38 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:36 Elroi wrote:On February 22 2013 21:32 RiZu wrote: Roro only Kespa hope. yeah really sad to see both soulkey and bogus go out 2-3. it would have been such an upset if roro didn't win this. Too much credit to KeSPA players, they really haven't shown anything truly remarkable. I still don't get how the TL preview calls bogus "the undisputed (or consensus? was the word?) best terran in the world. He really just has beastly macro and decent micro, but hasn't shown anything too awesome.
Because maybe if the game goes into late game, then Bogus wins? You saw the games, Bogus's unit control, macro, multitasking, and positioning was phenomenal. He messed up against a 2 base all in on Icarus and failed a tricky 3 banshee build on whirlwind. Other than those 2 blunders, he pretty much outplayed symbol, even in game 2 where symbol was massively ahead and barely won due to Bogus's superior late game management.
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3/4 zergs gg WoL sad that one of these zergs is just gonna become Sniper2
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On February 22 2013 21:39 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:38 Big-t wrote:On February 22 2013 21:37 Cokefreak wrote:On February 22 2013 21:36 Big-t wrote:On February 22 2013 21:35 Cokefreak wrote:On February 22 2013 21:34 Heavenlee wrote:On February 22 2013 21:33 Cokefreak wrote:On February 22 2013 21:32 Big-t wrote:On February 22 2013 21:31 Cokefreak wrote: Outplayed. Stop it NOW!!!! MC got demolished, no denying that~ Yeah, going 2-3 and having horrible maps is sure being demolished. I'm talking about that last game. Not even the last game Completely. Were we watching different streams? Apparently, MC got scouted and wrecked in the last game.
Scouted on a map where all you can do is some form of two base all-in by toss, all of which get shout down by ling/roach/infestor. This kind of "demolished" phrasing is completely obnoxious, Roro played good, still any player doing a two base all-in at this point of the game versus a competent zerg will lose.
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On February 22 2013 21:40 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:38 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 22 2013 21:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On February 22 2013 21:35 Inzan1ty wrote: No freaking way TaeJa beats RorO`s best matchup, being over 70%
This is so ZvZ finals. with Curious probably taking it Taeja is at 68% though, with a higher sampling :O sides if MKP can do it so can Taeja. Also Roro has that winrate mostly vs Kespa terrans I think? Not hating on kespa terrans or anything but they're not Taeja. Roro is a beast everywhere. I think ZvP is actually his weak m-u. And I also think he's the best in ZvZ in RO4.
No. Curious' ZvZ is literally god-tier. If Roro beats TaeJa, Curious will roll him. Roro has good ZvZ for sure, but nothing compared to Curious. Just check the TLPD. :p
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On February 22 2013 21:34 MeLo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:33 Brian333 wrote: I guess MC could've won that? Maybe if Roro misread the phoenixes and expanded / droned after they were revealed and MC didn't let Roro get a full scout of his base with the Overseer... maybe...? He was done as soon as Roro chose Infestors as his tech choice. If Roro went Muta-Ling, then there would be a chance. Pretty much, roro went up to 6 gas really fast. I think phoenix are pretty bad when they come predictable or get scouted very early.
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