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On February 21 2013 08:17 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 08:09 sertas wrote:
is hots really balanced at all? This looks ridicolous lol. Like 22 drones die in like 2-3 seconds to the oracles. And the spore just instantly died + queen xD double proxy stargate and 5 oracles... if Sniper figured it out he could have easily smashed it and Seed would have been absolutely dead. 2-3 spores and a queen wipe that out and then it's GG, you just have to scout it or scout your opponents base. Sniper should have known something was up, he had a overlord spying on the front of the base, saw the third gas and that the gateway wasn't a warpgate yet(Was super delayed because of star gate investment.) Scouting has become extremely important in HotS.. It was risky to not scout in WoL it's suicidal to not scout in HotS.
Yeah, like that totally unscouted Nydus that went up in Babyknight's base against Nerchio, for example.
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On February 21 2013 08:19 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 08:14 Ghanburighan wrote:On February 21 2013 08:13 Bagration wrote:On February 21 2013 08:09 sertas wrote:
is hots really balanced at all? This looks ridicolous lol. Like 22 drones die in like 2-3 seconds to the oracles. And the spore just instantly died + queen xD Let's see and give the meta game a little longer. Yeah, oracles seem ridiculous now. But there hasn't been any time to learn usual proxy locations, timings, spore placements and timings, drone micro, etc. That one seems hard given they die in 2 seconds. From what i've seen Zerg is probably underpowered atm, it's what you read in every korean interview as well (even though some of them of course haven't played HotS enough). Not sure about the balance between the other races though. Given that Terran is the race that always were only really good in hands of the top koreans i guess it's natural they're pretty OP at the moment given that those haven't played enough to see how imba Terrans are in their hands.
Zerg I don't think is under powered. Need more time to truly knew, but right now most of their losses seem to becoming from not adjusting to the new game properly. Zergs in WoL have it hard wired into them to turtle to hive when you just can't do that in HotS as effectively.
Once Zerg players properly adjust to the early game timings they wil lstart to discover how extremely powerful their mid game really is. Swam host Corruptor overseer is fucking devasting, Vipers blinding cloud is extremely strong, Mutalisks were always good but now they are even better. Hydra's with speed make early WoL roach hydra armies viable etc.
It's a tough transition from Zergs so it might take a while but I really don't think they are UP at all and I really hope Blizzard doesn't do what they did early in WoL and go crazy with the nerf hammer and buffs. Let the meta game sit for a little bit, players have to really figure out new timings and proper use of new abilties(Still see zergs use abduct more then blinding cloud -.- )
Of course this is all just my humble opinion and I'm just a forum rat and not an actual pro or anything.
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United States97277 Posts
On February 21 2013 08:17 ThePlayer33 wrote:
can the results please show overall results? i do not wish to click on 4 spoilers per match
If you click on game 5 you'll always know the result. They write the overall score if the game wasn't needed or you see who won game 5
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I just hope we can perhaps try to balance with maps before we neuter early aggression too hard again via the nerf bat.
WoL lost a lot of its appeal as things went further and further towards fast 3 base without pressure till well past 10mins.
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On February 21 2013 08:19 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 08:14 Ghanburighan wrote:On February 21 2013 08:13 Bagration wrote:On February 21 2013 08:09 sertas wrote:
is hots really balanced at all? This looks ridicolous lol. Like 22 drones die in like 2-3 seconds to the oracles. And the spore just instantly died + queen xD Let's see and give the meta game a little longer. Yeah, oracles seem ridiculous now. But there hasn't been any time to learn usual proxy locations, timings, spore placements and timings, drone micro, etc. That one seems hard given they die in 2 seconds. From what i've seen Zerg is probably underpowered atm, it's what you read in every korean interview as well (even though some of them of course haven't played HotS enough). Not sure about the balance between the other races though. Given that Terran is the race that always were only really good in hands of the top koreans i guess it's natural they're pretty OP at the moment given that those haven't played enough to see how imba Terrans are in their hands.
Oracles aren't phoenix, though. They cannot fire while moving. Had Sniper moved all his drones while the spore was going down, he would have not lost all of them.
Also, did you just say that Terran is OP because we have not seen the likes of Innovation and Mvp play yet?
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On February 21 2013 08:30 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 08:19 HolydaKing wrote:On February 21 2013 08:14 Ghanburighan wrote:On February 21 2013 08:13 Bagration wrote:On February 21 2013 08:09 sertas wrote:
is hots really balanced at all? This looks ridicolous lol. Like 22 drones die in like 2-3 seconds to the oracles. And the spore just instantly died + queen xD Let's see and give the meta game a little longer. Yeah, oracles seem ridiculous now. But there hasn't been any time to learn usual proxy locations, timings, spore placements and timings, drone micro, etc. That one seems hard given they die in 2 seconds. From what i've seen Zerg is probably underpowered atm, it's what you read in every korean interview as well (even though some of them of course haven't played HotS enough). Not sure about the balance between the other races though. Given that Terran is the race that always were only really good in hands of the top koreans i guess it's natural they're pretty OP at the moment given that those haven't played enough to see how imba Terrans are in their hands. Oracles aren't phoenix, though. They cannot fire while moving. Had Sniper moved all his drones while the spore was going down, he would have not lost all of them. Also, did you just say that Terran is OP because we have not seen the likes of Innovation and Mvp play yet?
Is it possible to counter with we don't know how good zerg is going to be because the best zergs haven't been eliminated form the WoL tournaments yet? There's like 10 zergs playing in IPL6 and pretty much all the best zergs still have GSL games to play
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If Seed steals the soul of the fun killer? Does he become a killer of fun also?
(Yay Seed!)
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Yay Seed! Go eyebrowtoss!
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yea poor Sniper will be forgotten by the time HotS comes lol
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On February 21 2013 17:25 Inzan1ty wrote:
yea poor Sniper will be forgotten by the time HotS comes lol
he's made it to the up/down though and that was his master plan all along! o.o
now watch as he denies us many fan favorites for the first season of HotS code S
aha AHAHAHAHAAAAA...
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Yes Seed, well done sir !
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If even Seed can win we know there's an isue here 
Oh well grats to Seed.
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On February 21 2013 21:41 Lysanias wrote:If even Seed can win we know there's an isue here Oh well grats to Seed.
Well, it was against sniper.
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On February 21 2013 22:30 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 21:41 Lysanias wrote:If even Seed can win we know there's an isue here Oh well grats to Seed. Well, it was against sniper.
What does that even mean?
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On February 21 2013 21:41 Lysanias wrote:If even Seed can win we know there's an isue here Oh well grats to Seed.
Are you trying to call Seed bad?
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On February 21 2013 23:59 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 21:41 Lysanias wrote:If even Seed can win we know there's an isue here Oh well grats to Seed. Are you trying to call Seed bad?
Looking at his results after his GSL win yeah i would call him medicure at best.
Not that he's not talented, but i think he's just not playing to serieus atm.
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