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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 17 2013 20:35 GMT
#81
On February 18 2013 05:34 Hylirion wrote:
Buildorder win, mass collosus vs mass swarmhost

that was a strategic response, not a BO win -_-
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
February 17 2013 20:35 GMT
#82
On February 18 2013 05:34 Hylirion wrote:
Buildorder win, mass collosus vs mass swarmhost


Not really, Swarm Hosts can be extremely good versus Collosus actually.
Pokemon Master
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
February 17 2013 20:36 GMT
#83
Grubby right now is playing way better than he has on his stream the last couple of days, looked so shaky he had me worry quite a bit!
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3401 Posts
February 17 2013 20:36 GMT
#84
On February 18 2013 05:19 PredY wrote:
not sure what the idea behind going BCs was..

It occasionally works when protoss messes up or is caught by surprise.
It was a bit better on daybreak where you could split the map with planetaries.
sirchen
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom37 Posts
February 17 2013 20:36 GMT
#85
waoh, just starting to see Hots playing out. That game was absolutely exciting. (Grubby vs. TLO, g1) I hope the remainder of games tonight look as cool as this. Then, I'll look very very much forward to all the Hots tournaments and the future of SC2 in general.
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
February 17 2013 20:37 GMT
#86
On February 18 2013 05:34 Hylirion wrote:
Buildorder win, mass collosus vs mass swarmhost


It's not a build order win considering that Grubby scouted the lack of 3rd and responded accordingly. Build order wins refer only to accidentally countering using the starting build order.
Dotq
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway235 Posts
February 17 2013 20:37 GMT
#87
Unwatchable sadly....its like watching pictures with a sentence every now and then.
o)_Saurus
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany260 Posts
February 17 2013 20:39 GMT
#88
On February 18 2013 05:36 Doublemint wrote:
Grubby right now is playing way better than he has on his stream the last couple of days, looked so shaky he had me worry quite a bit!


Grubby basically is the Roger Federer of sc2. In pratice he never performs 100% but rather tries out new things or even does some VERY stupid mistakes. In tournament games though he rarely has holes in his play. This has been the case for his wc3 career and did not really change after his switch to sc2.
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
February 17 2013 20:40 GMT
#89
On February 18 2013 05:37 kheldorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 05:34 Hylirion wrote:
Buildorder win, mass collosus vs mass swarmhost


It's not a build order win considering that Grubby scouted the lack of 3rd and responded accordingly. Build order wins refer only to accidentally countering using the starting build order.


AFAIK he was already going double robo colli before that, but oh well.
ZjiublingZ
Profile Joined September 2011
United Arab Emirates439 Posts
February 17 2013 20:41 GMT
#90
On February 18 2013 05:40 Hylirion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 05:37 kheldorin wrote:
On February 18 2013 05:34 Hylirion wrote:
Buildorder win, mass collosus vs mass swarmhost


It's not a build order win considering that Grubby scouted the lack of 3rd and responded accordingly. Build order wins refer only to accidentally countering using the starting build order.


AFAIK he was already going double robo colli before that, but oh well.


No, they said on the stream Grubby knows TLO goes crazy with Swarm Hosts. So Grubby probably inferred that with the mass creep spread, 2 bases, and Roach presence (so he knows it probably isn't Mutalisks).
o)_Saurus
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany260 Posts
February 17 2013 20:41 GMT
#91
On February 18 2013 05:40 Hylirion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 05:37 kheldorin wrote:
On February 18 2013 05:34 Hylirion wrote:
Buildorder win, mass collosus vs mass swarmhost


It's not a build order win considering that Grubby scouted the lack of 3rd and responded accordingly. Build order wins refer only to accidentally countering using the starting build order.


AFAIK he was already going double robo colli before that, but oh well.


no, he put down the first robo right when he saw there was no 3rd. At least from what I saw on stream...
Native
Profile Joined October 2007
Poland105 Posts
February 17 2013 20:45 GMT
#92
On February 18 2013 05:37 Dotq wrote:
Unwatchable sadly....its like watching pictures with a sentence every now and then.


+1
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
February 17 2013 20:45 GMT
#93
On February 18 2013 05:39 o)_Saurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 05:36 Doublemint wrote:
Grubby right now is playing way better than he has on his stream the last couple of days, looked so shaky he had me worry quite a bit!


Grubby basically is the Roger Federer of sc2. In pratice he never performs 100% but rather tries out new things or even does some VERY stupid mistakes. In tournament games though he rarely has holes in his play. This has been the case for his wc3 career and did not really change after his switch to sc2.


I kinda agree with the first part, though I don't see how you can say that for his time when he played wc3 - no way to know how he did back then in practice as twitch and its counterparts have not been established... of course if you are one of his earlier practice partners I concede defeat x-D
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
February 17 2013 20:47 GMT
#94
On February 18 2013 05:40 Hylirion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 05:37 kheldorin wrote:
On February 18 2013 05:34 Hylirion wrote:
Buildorder win, mass collosus vs mass swarmhost


It's not a build order win considering that Grubby scouted the lack of 3rd and responded accordingly. Build order wins refer only to accidentally countering using the starting build order.


AFAIK he was already going double robo colli before that, but oh well.

No.. no one goes double robo that early, ever.
Refer to my post.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 20:50:01
February 17 2013 20:49 GMT
#95
On February 18 2013 05:37 Dotq wrote:
Unwatchable sadly....its like watching pictures with a sentence every now and then.


Every resolution for me except 720p is fine which is weird. 360/480/720p+ all lagging on me

BTW nice birthday i like it ^_^
JD, need I say more? :D
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
February 17 2013 20:52 GMT
#96
adebesi missed the baneling overlord between grubbys main and 3rd! How did it fare?
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
February 17 2013 20:53 GMT
#97
What a strange metagame lol
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
February 17 2013 20:53 GMT
#98
Cloud is one of the worst maps for mass mutas. On most maps you can defend bases pretty easily with mass spines and just fly around with your mutas doing whatever you want but not on cloud.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 20:55:24
February 17 2013 20:54 GMT
#99
Once the balance gets tweaked to this game, and the meta is more figured out it's going to be pretty fun to watch. These games are selling HoTS to me pretty well.

EDIT: As in lots of action all around the map, lots of positional play. I'd like to see TLO do actual compositions and not just massing one unit though...
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
February 17 2013 20:54 GMT
#100
Really badass fight there with stalker/immortal/sentry/ mass phoenix vs ling/baneling/muta/corruptor!! Really even trade too.
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