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Austria24417 Posts
On February 08 2013 20:58 sibs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 20:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 08 2013 20:55 sibs wrote:
Let me remind the protoss QQers that P has >50% win rate vs Zerg. Oh FFS, worst argument Yea, let's ignore all of the protosses strength's and just cry about Zerg's strength, it's not like forcefields are abusive as fuck vs zerg right? Soulkey killing that BUILT nexus was huge.
Nobody is arguing that protoss midgame is too weak. You're addressing a matchup as a whole when all that's being discussed is the lategame stage. Your argument contributes nothing to the discussion. Give me a lategame statistic, that's what's relevant
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United States97276 Posts
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro16 Group B  MarineKing vs  Symbol Game 1 Map: Bel'Shir Vestige
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MarineKing spawns in the top left
Symbol spawns in the bottom right
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On February 08 2013 20:58 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 20:54 sAsImre wrote:On February 08 2013 20:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 08 2013 20:52 Orek wrote:
I came back to LR just to see people banned from balance whining after such a game. Where are they? Maybe LR became slightly better place after all? 2 years of accumulated bans must finally be taking effect Kadaver's bored of cokefreak killing spree :D I promised him a report free LR today, well I did make one report but that's it 
so i'm fucking him over QQ
pretty sure you got the most obvious one !
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Squirtle begins looking really good, get's a lot of hype by Tastosis and now he might go out. Kinda like DRG yesterday, "I wouldn't be surprised if DRG takes this GSL", "the best he's ever looked" etc and now he's out. Feels strange.
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On February 08 2013 20:58 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 20:57 synapse wrote:On February 08 2013 20:54 Corrosive wrote:On February 08 2013 20:53 synapse wrote:
I don't get the hate on Soulkey--sure he didn't exactly play amazingly, but it was Squirtle who did a stupid all-in in g2 and defended poorly in g3 (letting 3rd get sniped, never pulled off any good harass, never did a pre-BL timing). what am i reading Phoenixes got like 10 drone kills total, forced cancel 4th and 5th before SK even had the drones to put them in the new bases. Soulkey's economy was never hurt, he never lost any crucial tech structures. Every Protoss knows that they have to damage Z before they hit the big infestor corruptor broodlord deathball, and Squirtle didn't do it. And yes the all-in in game 2 was bad. sk all inned squirtle in game 2.
Fake nat 1base 5gate voidray push? Did you not watch the first 10 minutes?
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United States97276 Posts
Idk why they are saying Symbol is hot right now. His play has seemed rather lackluster lately
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Cmon cmon MKP dont let me DOWN!
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On February 08 2013 20:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
Yes Tasteless.
EXACTLY.
Now if only Fionn can learn what you just learned and admitted.
what did he say? ^^
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On February 08 2013 20:57 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 20:54 Corrosive wrote:On February 08 2013 20:53 synapse wrote:
I don't get the hate on Soulkey--sure he didn't exactly play amazingly, but it was Squirtle who did a stupid all-in in g2 and defended poorly in g3 (letting 3rd get sniped, never pulled off any good harass, never did a pre-BL timing). what am i reading Phoenixes got like 10 drone kills total, forced cancel 4th and 5th before SK even had the drones to put them in the new bases. Soulkey's economy was never hurt, he never lost any crucial tech structures. Every Protoss knows that they have to damage Z before they hit the big infestor corruptor broodlord deathball, and Squirtle didn't do it. And yes the all-in in game 2 was bad.
So forcing cancel on 4th and 5th is not harass? How did you harass a 3 base zerg when they have infestors?? Squirtle did pretty well mid game to keep Soulkey in check to be honest.
And the all-in in game 2 was forced because he messed up his defense of Soulkey's bust. There was no way he could just retake his nexus when Soulkey was up to 3 bases.
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On February 07 2013 22:57 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 22:57 Snusmumriken wrote:On February 07 2013 22:56 Dauntless wrote:
Calling it now, there will only be 1 zerg in the ro8, and that is Life.
Gj TaeJa!! nonono. Soulkey is definately advancing. Im pretty sure Losira will advance as well, as 2nd. Man I hope so. I love Soulkey's style of play, it's so refined it's ridiculous.
Well, fuck =(
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On February 08 2013 20:50 Blacktion wrote:
I never understood making voids late game like that.
Corrupters arnt horrible against them if you target properly and infestors shit all over voids, zerg already has both.
because upgraded Voidrays, even uncharged, destroy Corruptors and if the zerg wasted all their energy of the infestors their army is dead. The transition just is really fragile (thats why you get carriers first, distract the corruptors from colossus and you can snipe tons of infestors).
Soulkey hit the perfect timing (his only probably) and Squirtle thought he could hold the 4th long enough, while killing the Zerg eco. Thats why he set up the cannons down there not even protecting the 4th really.
At the end it was just luck that the Broodlords didn't die on the first Vortex and that Squirtle was to greedy with his second Vortex as well and lost his MS before using it. If you commit so much supply to kill the eco of your opponent you really need to control everything at home perfectly.
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Damn. MKP's not looking good to get out of this round... If he pulls this off, it'll probably be legendary.
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France9034 Posts
On February 08 2013 21:00 LawnMower wrote:
Squirtle begins looking really good, get's a lot of hype by Tastosis and now he might go out. Kinda like DRG yesterday, "I wouldn't be surprised if DRG takes this GSL", "the best he's ever looked" etc and now he's out. Feels strange.
It actually appears to be normal imo :D
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Austria24417 Posts
On February 08 2013 20:59 coloursheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 20:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 08 2013 20:56 coloursheep wrote:On February 08 2013 20:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 08 2013 20:49 coloursheep wrote:On February 08 2013 20:48 nomyx wrote:
Vortex or lose
good series MC vs Curious shows that what you just said is not true Take one game that Curious played poorly, argue that whole matchup is balanced Take one game where squirtle played poorly and argue a matchup is imbalanced ... he said after a year of BL/infestor reign That's why they nerfed infestors and after avoiding late game all costs in PvZ MC goes for a super late game against Curious right after the nerg, why would he do that unless he did not think that BL?infestor is no longer unbeatable?
Maybe because he practices in the IM house and the IM zergs are not exactly famous for their lategame army control
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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On February 08 2013 21:00 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 20:58 Corrosive wrote:On February 08 2013 20:57 synapse wrote:On February 08 2013 20:54 Corrosive wrote:On February 08 2013 20:53 synapse wrote:
I don't get the hate on Soulkey--sure he didn't exactly play amazingly, but it was Squirtle who did a stupid all-in in g2 and defended poorly in g3 (letting 3rd get sniped, never pulled off any good harass, never did a pre-BL timing). what am i reading Phoenixes got like 10 drone kills total, forced cancel 4th and 5th before SK even had the drones to put them in the new bases. Soulkey's economy was never hurt, he never lost any crucial tech structures. Every Protoss knows that they have to damage Z before they hit the big infestor corruptor broodlord deathball, and Squirtle didn't do it. And yes the all-in in game 2 was bad. sk all inned squirtle in game 2. Fake nat 1base 5gate voidray push? Did you not watch the first 10 minutes?
Did you watch the game? It wasn't a fake nat lol. He got busted and lost his nat... ROFL... Please go watch the VODs when they become available.
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Just me or is the twitch stream choppy as hell?
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On February 08 2013 21:00 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 20:58 Corrosive wrote:On February 08 2013 20:57 synapse wrote:On February 08 2013 20:54 Corrosive wrote:On February 08 2013 20:53 synapse wrote:
I don't get the hate on Soulkey--sure he didn't exactly play amazingly, but it was Squirtle who did a stupid all-in in g2 and defended poorly in g3 (letting 3rd get sniped, never pulled off any good harass, never did a pre-BL timing). what am i reading Phoenixes got like 10 drone kills total, forced cancel 4th and 5th before SK even had the drones to put them in the new bases. Soulkey's economy was never hurt, he never lost any crucial tech structures. Every Protoss knows that they have to damage Z before they hit the big infestor corruptor broodlord deathball, and Squirtle didn't do it. And yes the all-in in game 2 was bad. sk all inned squirtle in game 2. Fake nat 1base 5gate voidray push? Did you not watch the first 10 minutes?
His nat died to the baneling all-in? Did you not watch the first 10 minutes?
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On February 08 2013 21:00 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 20:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
Yes Tasteless.
EXACTLY.
Now if only Fionn can learn what you just learned and admitted. what did he say? ^^
"You can't count out Marineking. I feel like i'm always counting out Marineking and he keeps hanging around and I think eventually I just have to admit that Marineking is always going to be around and always make it deep into tournaments." - Tasteless.
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LOL
that's why i love u MKP
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EPT
