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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
February 08 2013 11:57 GMT
#1221
On February 08 2013 20:55 sibs wrote:
Let me remind the protoss QQers that P has >50% win rate vs Zerg.

gsl stats say otherwise.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 08 2013 11:57 GMT
#1222
Please MKP
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
February 08 2013 11:57 GMT
#1223
On February 08 2013 20:55 FineAndDandy wrote:
Best protoss can't win against scrub zerg, nothing else to say, right, guys?


Don't just overtake Artosis' opinion.
Squirtle played really well but he is far from being the best Protoss right now
Haven't you followed the scene the last months? MC handled situations like this far better and in my eyes Parting and Rain are also a level ahead.
Meggiroth
Profile Joined March 2012
239 Posts
February 08 2013 11:57 GMT
#1224
On February 08 2013 20:53 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 20:51 Meggiroth wrote:
As expected. When behind in skill , derp infestor/brood and gg.
Thank god its the last WoL gsl and we won't see this broken comp in hots.

Guess you missed the part where Squirtle transitioned horribly and couldn't spend his bank. It's okay though, understandable that you want to just balance whine blindly.


I'm not whining I'm just stating the obvious. I don't need to prove anything to you after a whole year of raging and whining through the whole community regarding this issue, confirmation from blizz and the most obvious off all the actual results with zergs winning everything with infestor/brood.
Its a commonly known fact.
I'm just glad the meta changed in hots and that crap won't happen in the next seasons.
"He who fishes in other man’s well often catches crabs." - Confucius
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
February 08 2013 11:57 GMT
#1225
On February 08 2013 20:54 Corrosive wrote:
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On February 08 2013 20:53 synapse wrote:
I don't get the hate on Soulkey--sure he didn't exactly play amazingly, but it was Squirtle who did a stupid all-in in g2 and defended poorly in g3 (letting 3rd get sniped, never pulled off any good harass, never did a pre-BL timing).

what am i reading

Phoenixes got like 10 drone kills total, forced cancel 4th and 5th before SK even had the drones to put them in the new bases. Soulkey's economy was never hurt, he never lost any crucial tech structures. Every Protoss knows that they have to damage Z before they hit the big infestor corruptor broodlord deathball, and Squirtle didn't do it.

And yes the all-in in game 2 was bad.
:)
Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
February 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#1226
On February 08 2013 20:51 Meggiroth wrote:
As expected. When behind in skill , derp infestor/brood and gg.
Thank god its the last WoL gsl and we won't see this broken comp in hots.


Whilst BL/Infestor is strong, it's certainly not what it once was, and I actually think late game is quite balanced.

Squirtle just played that poorly. Lost his mothership inexplicably, overcommited to economy harass when Soulkeys army was bearing down on his 4th. Not enough archons for the toilet, should have been a 8/9 kill brood toilet, but they all escaped.

Was hoping for Squirtle / MKP to advance, but Soulkey was completely deserving of his victory.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#1227
On February 08 2013 20:56 baubo wrote:
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On February 08 2013 20:53 var username wrote:
Yesterday Innovation, today Soulkey... KeSPA sweatshop-style training practices really paying off. Wonder if they train as hard as China's Olympics team


Believe it or not, teams don't really help their players prepare for GSL. Their working hours are basically for proleague. If anything, Kespa players likely practice LESS for GSL and other individual tournaments than ESF players, who don't have "day jobs."

Practicing Starcraft is Practicing Starcraft no matter the tournament. I realize that there is some strategy that is specialized, but practicing for proleague undoubtably helps them be better prepared for GSL.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
February 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#1228
On February 08 2013 20:54 sAsImre wrote:
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On February 08 2013 20:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 08 2013 20:52 Orek wrote:
I came back to LR just to see people banned from balance whining after such a game. Where are they? Maybe LR became slightly better place after all?

2 years of accumulated bans must finally be taking effect


Kadaver's bored of cokefreak killing spree :D

I promised him a report free LR today, well I did make one report but that's it
sibs
Profile Joined July 2012
635 Posts
February 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#1229
On February 08 2013 20:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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On February 08 2013 20:55 sibs wrote:
Let me remind the protoss QQers that P has >50% win rate vs Zerg.


Oh FFS, worst argument



Yea, let's ignore all of the protosses strength's and just cry about Zerg's strength, it's not like forcefields are abusive as fuck vs zerg right?

Soulkey killing that BUILT nexus was huge.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
February 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#1230
On February 08 2013 20:54 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 20:53 synapse wrote:
I don't get the hate on Soulkey--sure he didn't exactly play amazingly, but it was Squirtle who did a stupid all-in in g2 and defended poorly in g3 (letting 3rd get sniped, never pulled off any good harass, never did a pre-BL timing).

what am i reading


The OP zerg combo requires 4 bases/8 gas. Squirtle destroyed the 5th and 6th hatchery over and over.
Meh
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
February 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#1231
On February 08 2013 20:57 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 20:54 Corrosive wrote:
On February 08 2013 20:53 synapse wrote:
I don't get the hate on Soulkey--sure he didn't exactly play amazingly, but it was Squirtle who did a stupid all-in in g2 and defended poorly in g3 (letting 3rd get sniped, never pulled off any good harass, never did a pre-BL timing).

what am i reading

Phoenixes got like 10 drone kills total, forced cancel 4th and 5th before SK even had the drones to put them in the new bases. Soulkey's economy was never hurt, he never lost any crucial tech structures. Every Protoss knows that they have to damage Z before they hit the big infestor corruptor broodlord deathball, and Squirtle didn't do it.

And yes the all-in in game 2 was bad.

sk all inned squirtle in game 2.
Maruprime.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
February 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#1232
Woo, Soulkey!

Now if only MKP advances too, I'll be really happy. Squirtle and Symbol are nice too though, so any result is good.
Flash | Mvp
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#1233

On February 08 2013 20:53 var username wrote:
Yesterday Innovation, today Soulkey... KeSPA sweatshop-style training practices really paying off. Wonder if they train as hard as China's Olympics team


That is very unlikely.
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Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
February 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#1234
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coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China497 Posts
February 08 2013 11:59 GMT
#1235
On February 08 2013 20:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 20:56 coloursheep wrote:
On February 08 2013 20:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 08 2013 20:49 coloursheep wrote:
On February 08 2013 20:48 nomyx wrote:
Vortex or lose

good series


MC vs Curious shows that what you just said is not true


Take one game that Curious played poorly, argue that whole matchup is balanced


Take one game where squirtle played poorly and argue a matchup is imbalanced


... he said after a year of BL/infestor reign


That's why they nerfed infestors and after avoiding late game all costs in PvZ MC goes for a super late game against Curious right after the nerg, why would he do that unless he did not think that BL?infestor is no longer unbeatable?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 08 2013 11:59 GMT
#1236
On February 08 2013 20:58 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 20:56 baubo wrote:
On February 08 2013 20:53 var username wrote:
Yesterday Innovation, today Soulkey... KeSPA sweatshop-style training practices really paying off. Wonder if they train as hard as China's Olympics team


Believe it or not, teams don't really help their players prepare for GSL. Their working hours are basically for proleague. If anything, Kespa players likely practice LESS for GSL and other individual tournaments than ESF players, who don't have "day jobs."

Practicing Starcraft is Practicing Starcraft no matter the tournament. I realize that there is some strategy that is specialized, but practicing for proleague undoubtably helps them be better prepared for GSL.


when half of the proleague maps are totally different from the GSL and you don't prepare icarus/bel shir at all, no.
Zest fanboy.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
February 08 2013 11:59 GMT
#1237
Tune on the GSL they said. Someone just beat a zerg, they said.

So ye, Zerg loses his fourth base to stray Void Ray? No biggie, just get BL/Infestor.
Zerg gets his fourth base after Protoss gets fifth? No biggie, just get BL/Infestor.
Zerg fails to split his air units? No biggie, BL/Infestor is fogiving.

User was temp banned for this post.
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
February 08 2013 11:59 GMT
#1238
On February 08 2013 20:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 20:56 Elite_ wrote:
So... With Squirtle losing that game a PartinG vs. Squirtle finals is possible if PartinG tops his group...

no more pvp finals please


Yeah I think I'd prefer a non-mirror matchup in the finals. They've been far more entertaining.
EmmeCY
Profile Joined June 2012
Malaysia417 Posts
February 08 2013 11:59 GMT
#1239
one more spot and I hope for both Squirtle and MKP to go through!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 08 2013 11:59 GMT
#1240
Yes Tasteless.

EXACTLY.

Now if only Fionn can learn what you just learned and admitted.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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