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On February 07 2013 19:03 JunkkaGom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:01 Fionn wrote:
GSL stat is wrong. He does not have a 100% advance rate.
He lost to DRG/Polt in Code S last year of the Ro32. we are NEVER wrong.
Haha epic comment
Alright who wins code S this year? The entire reputation of your company depends on your answer being correct
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United States23455 Posts
GOMTV just told me that Aladdin is better than Lion King.
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GSL Premium Ticket?
Shes not worth that much!
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Korea (South)855 Posts
On February 07 2013 19:04 Savant.GL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:03 JunkkaGom wrote:On February 07 2013 19:01 Fionn wrote:
GSL stat is wrong. He does not have a 100% advance rate.
He lost to DRG/Polt in Code S last year of the Ro32. we are NEVER wrong. Haha epic comment Alright who wins code S this year? The entire reputation of your company depends on your answer being correct
Korean is going to win Code S. 100% sure about this
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On February 07 2013 19:04 TheBB wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:02 bo1b wrote:On February 07 2013 19:01 forsooth wrote:On February 07 2013 18:59 bo1b wrote:On February 07 2013 18:57 vthree wrote:On February 07 2013 18:55 mprs wrote:On February 07 2013 18:51 Sammo wrote:On February 07 2013 18:49 SoFrOsTy wrote:
A terran is not going to beat DRG before HOTS. IT just is not going to happen. I would be shocked if anyone in this group beats DRG. Exactly. I just don't see a Terran beating Life, DRG or the other top Zergs in GSL in a Bo3 right now. Lets wait for Hots I feel like a lot of it is because a player like DRG was competitive ZvT when Zerg was heavily undermatched. So with slight buffs to zerg, he was just exponentially better. DRG and Life are in a group of their own. No Terran can beat THEM, but plenty of Terrans have and will beat other top GSL Zergs. (Bomber 2-0'd Sniper to get here, for instance). This is just player imbalance. DRG's ZvT just can't be matched. But that was the same thing for ZvT in early 2012(MMA, Mvp, MKP were doing well but DRG, Leenock, Symbol were beating all the other terrans). Yet, Blizzard buffed queens and OL speed. Because pre queen buff it was like 45% ZvT, and a small buff to early game defense was needed lol. They completely missed the mark though :\ Except that's wrong, in both March and April 2012 Zerg was getting the better of Terran in the matchup. http://www.starcrafttrends.com/ Check out the korean vs korean graph. My god, that font.
Please don't draw inspiration :D
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On February 07 2013 19:03 mprs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:00 sitromit wrote:On February 07 2013 18:52 Fjodorov wrote:
Tacticly DRG is very smart but its hard to be impressed by 50 banelings a-moving and crushing an army. 4 of the best players in the world and DRG is expected to get out of this group easy. That says alot. DRG: GSL Champion, GSL Finalist, OSL Finalist, MLG Arena Champion and 2nd place, MLG Champion and 2nd place, among various other small tournament wins. I'm not even going to mention Dreamhack or IEM because they're foreigner heavy tournaments with 3-4 Koreans sprinkled in. Taeja: MLG Arena Champion Bomber: MLG Champion Bogus:... Yeah, it's shocking and a testament to imbalance, that DRG is favored in this group. Especially considering that DRG won most of his shit when Zerg was favored against, and Terrans had the upper hand in the match-up. You can talk about imbalance and such, but DRG is just just better than these players. That's what it comes down to.
Exactly. Not to mention he had the most dominant run of any player in GSTL, when Zerg was doing very badly. He's by far the most accomplished of these 3 players.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 07 2013 19:05 JunkkaGom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:04 Savant.GL wrote:On February 07 2013 19:03 JunkkaGom wrote:On February 07 2013 19:01 Fionn wrote:
GSL stat is wrong. He does not have a 100% advance rate.
He lost to DRG/Polt in Code S last year of the Ro32. we are NEVER wrong. Haha epic comment Alright who wins code S this year? The entire reputation of your company depends on your answer being correct Korean is going to win Code S. 100% sure about this
The winner will also be a male.
You guys should hire me
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On February 07 2013 19:05 JunkkaGom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:04 Savant.GL wrote:On February 07 2013 19:03 JunkkaGom wrote:On February 07 2013 19:01 Fionn wrote:
GSL stat is wrong. He does not have a 100% advance rate.
He lost to DRG/Polt in Code S last year of the Ro32. we are NEVER wrong. Haha epic comment Alright who wins code S this year? The entire reputation of your company depends on your answer being correct Korean is going to win Code S. 100% sure about this
...I think you're probably going to be right.
Well played GOM
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On February 07 2013 19:05 JunkkaGom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:04 Savant.GL wrote:On February 07 2013 19:03 JunkkaGom wrote:On February 07 2013 19:01 Fionn wrote:
GSL stat is wrong. He does not have a 100% advance rate.
He lost to DRG/Polt in Code S last year of the Ro32. we are NEVER wrong. Haha epic comment Alright who wins code S this year? The entire reputation of your company depends on your answer being correct Korean is going to win Code S. 100% sure about this
i don't see how that's gonna happen
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On February 07 2013 19:05 JunkkaGom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:04 Savant.GL wrote:On February 07 2013 19:03 JunkkaGom wrote:On February 07 2013 19:01 Fionn wrote:
GSL stat is wrong. He does not have a 100% advance rate.
He lost to DRG/Polt in Code S last year of the Ro32. we are NEVER wrong. Haha epic comment Alright who wins code S this year? The entire reputation of your company depends on your answer being correct Korean is going to win Code S. 100% sure about this
that guy wins everything
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On February 07 2013 19:02 Shellshock1122 wrote: GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro16 Group A  TaeJa vs INnoVation Game 1 Map: Daybreak 0:00 TaeJa spawns in the top right INnoVation spawns in the bottom left
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rax first for TaeJa
rax first for Innovation
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quick wall off from TaeJa
gas for TaeJa
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CC on the low ground for Innovation
TaeJa scouts 1rax FE from Innovation
double gas for Innovation
reactor for TaeJa
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CC on the low ground for TaeJa
Factory for TaeJa
Bunker in the natural for Innovation
Factory for Innovation
reactor for Innovation
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Starport for TaeJa
reactored hellion production started for TaeJa
Starport for Innovation
reactored hellion production started for Innovation
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On February 07 2013 19:05 JunkkaGom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:04 Savant.GL wrote:On February 07 2013 19:03 JunkkaGom wrote:On February 07 2013 19:01 Fionn wrote:
GSL stat is wrong. He does not have a 100% advance rate.
He lost to DRG/Polt in Code S last year of the Ro32. we are NEVER wrong. Haha epic comment Alright who wins code S this year? The entire reputation of your company depends on your answer being correct Korean is going to win Code S. 100% sure about this
Well played, sir. Well played.
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On February 07 2013 19:06 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:05 JunkkaGom wrote:On February 07 2013 19:04 Savant.GL wrote:On February 07 2013 19:03 JunkkaGom wrote:On February 07 2013 19:01 Fionn wrote:
GSL stat is wrong. He does not have a 100% advance rate.
He lost to DRG/Polt in Code S last year of the Ro32. we are NEVER wrong. Haha epic comment Alright who wins code S this year? The entire reputation of your company depends on your answer being correct Korean is going to win Code S. 100% sure about this The winner will also be a male. You guys should hire me
Considering you have two top candidates for winning this season in your sig it might be a good idea.
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On February 07 2013 19:01 Fionn wrote:
GSL stat is wrong. He does not have a 100% advance rate.
He lost to DRG/Polt in Code S last year of the Ro32.
It said ro16 advance rate, not ro32. Every time he is in ro16 he advances to ro8.
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On February 07 2013 19:03 mprs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:00 sitromit wrote:On February 07 2013 18:52 Fjodorov wrote:
Tacticly DRG is very smart but its hard to be impressed by 50 banelings a-moving and crushing an army. 4 of the best players in the world and DRG is expected to get out of this group easy. That says alot. DRG: GSL Champion, GSL Finalist, OSL Finalist, MLG Arena Champion and 2nd place, MLG Champion and 2nd place, among various other small tournament wins. I'm not even going to mention Dreamhack or IEM because they're foreigner heavy tournaments with 3-4 Koreans sprinkled in. Taeja: MLG Arena Champion Bomber: MLG Champion Bogus:... Yeah, it's shocking and a testament to imbalance, that DRG is favored in this group. Especially considering that DRG won most of his shit when Zerg was favored against, and Terrans had the upper hand in the match-up. You can talk about imbalance and such, but DRG is just just better than these players. That's what it comes down to.
DRG won GSL when the match up was balance, and MLGs after the queen buff. So no.
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On February 07 2013 19:01 the_business_og wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 18:58 Douillos wrote:On February 07 2013 18:55 the_business_og wrote:
there is no good terran out there right now.mvp and taejas wrists have broken down under the stress of playing a winning pro terran. I really respect them though, they won when no others could There are loads of good terrans. It's just we haven't figured out how to play vs Z nowadays. Passive doesnt work, agressive can work but hard to pull off and Z must make a mistake, mech doesnt work anymore, bio mech is trashed by any combination, bio works before infestors are out... Give me a break, Ryung? Bogus? Byun? even bomber? They are monsters.... But Z is SO FUCKIN powerful! I consider a good terran as someone who wins the major tournaments. None of those guys have
In that case you are not aknowledging the fact that Terran is having a very hard time vs Z. How to win a tourney when ZvT metagame is soooo hard for T right now?
Skill-wise there are still many terran's who play incredibly well (and in my opinion WAYYY better than the Zergs out there, skill ceiling between races is incomparable), but until someone comes up with something that will give Terran's a way of fighting back vs Z, there will be NO terrans winning any tournaments.
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On February 07 2013 19:04 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:00 sitromit wrote:On February 07 2013 18:52 Fjodorov wrote:
Tacticly DRG is very smart but its hard to be impressed by 50 banelings a-moving and crushing an army. 4 of the best players in the world and DRG is expected to get out of this group easy. That says alot. DRG: GSL Champion, GSL Finalist, OSL Finalist, MLG Arena Champion and 2nd place, MLG Champion and 2nd place, among various other small tournament wins. I'm not even going to mention Dreamhack or IEM because they're foreigner heavy tournaments with 3-4 Koreans sprinkled in. Taeja: MLG Arena Champion Bomber: MLG Champion Bogus:... Yeah, it's shocking and a testament to imbalance, that DRG is favored in this group. you've left out a lot lol
He said he wasnt going to get into tournaments that are foreigner heavy and only have a few koreans (dreamhack, Asus ROG)
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On February 07 2013 19:02 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:01 forsooth wrote:On February 07 2013 18:59 bo1b wrote:On February 07 2013 18:57 vthree wrote:On February 07 2013 18:55 mprs wrote:On February 07 2013 18:51 Sammo wrote:On February 07 2013 18:49 SoFrOsTy wrote:
A terran is not going to beat DRG before HOTS. IT just is not going to happen. I would be shocked if anyone in this group beats DRG. Exactly. I just don't see a Terran beating Life, DRG or the other top Zergs in GSL in a Bo3 right now. Lets wait for Hots I feel like a lot of it is because a player like DRG was competitive ZvT when Zerg was heavily undermatched. So with slight buffs to zerg, he was just exponentially better. DRG and Life are in a group of their own. No Terran can beat THEM, but plenty of Terrans have and will beat other top GSL Zergs. (Bomber 2-0'd Sniper to get here, for instance). This is just player imbalance. DRG's ZvT just can't be matched. But that was the same thing for ZvT in early 2012(MMA, Mvp, MKP were doing well but DRG, Leenock, Symbol were beating all the other terrans). Yet, Blizzard buffed queens and OL speed. Because pre queen buff it was like 45% ZvT, and a small buff to early game defense was needed lol. They completely missed the mark though :\ Except that's wrong, in both March and April 2012 Zerg was getting the better of Terran in the matchup. http://www.starcrafttrends.com/ Check out the korean vs korean graph.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/898Wwh.png)
Things were looking just fine for Zerg against Terran, then Blizzard killed the matchup infinity times over.
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On February 07 2013 19:03 THELEHGOTERRAN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 18:59 bo1b wrote:On February 07 2013 18:57 vthree wrote:On February 07 2013 18:55 mprs wrote:On February 07 2013 18:51 Sammo wrote:On February 07 2013 18:49 SoFrOsTy wrote:
A terran is not going to beat DRG before HOTS. IT just is not going to happen. I would be shocked if anyone in this group beats DRG. Exactly. I just don't see a Terran beating Life, DRG or the other top Zergs in GSL in a Bo3 right now. Lets wait for Hots I feel like a lot of it is because a player like DRG was competitive ZvT when Zerg was heavily undermatched. So with slight buffs to zerg, he was just exponentially better. DRG and Life are in a group of their own. No Terran can beat THEM, but plenty of Terrans have and will beat other top GSL Zergs. (Bomber 2-0'd Sniper to get here, for instance). This is just player imbalance. DRG's ZvT just can't be matched. But that was the same thing for ZvT in early 2012(MMA, Mvp, MKP were doing well but DRG, Leenock, Symbol were beating all the other terrans). Yet, Blizzard buffed queens and OL speed. Because pre queen buff it was like 45% ZvT, and a small buff to early game defense was needed lol. They completely missed the mark though :\ meh
Thing is. Maps were already being changed (bigger, more 'safe' spots for OLs, easier to defend thirds) to help balance the early/mid game. And winning rates were near 50/50 in Feb Mar. Then Blizzard decided to just revamp the whole meta game with a EARLY game change. Since SC2 is snowbally in nature, even slightly changes in the early game has huge effects on the mid/late game.
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